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You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - TaliaNCo - 2011-02-04

Mark Wrote:I'm thinkin' you rigged the machine. Since you work there and everything. Caught you blue handed.

LOL!!! If only it were that easy. I'd never get away with it if I "could" accomplish that. I can't lie for pomegranate.....LOL! I'd get caught in a New York minute so I'd never even bother to try.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Kalovale - 2011-02-04

TaliaNCo Wrote:It actually makes me feel pretty good. I don't know about anyone else here, but making someone else smile or knowing you made some sort of a positive difference in their day, does make me feel good.
I ran a simulated scenario in my head where I did something because karma and my conscience forced me to.
Result: I would feel good having made a positive, but at the same time I would look back inwards and half disgust myself for being pretentious. I would end the event by shrugging it off with a "oh well, all's good if it's just me getting tainted morally in trade for an added plus to the day's record of good and evil."

The thing is, though, that I rarely feel or let myself be compelled by conscience. If I feel impulsive to offer help, I would gladly. Else, I would rather forget having helped than having people thank me.

Rob Wrote:You can't compare the value of a living thing to money. Money comes and goes.
This I agree with, and I'm not open-minded enough to account for materialistic people, whom I do not judge, just do not understand.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - TaliaNCo - 2011-02-04

Rob Wrote:Oh, please, I live in a 3rd world country

I give up.

Sorry, I'm unaware of most people's geographic locations on SP. Though now that you mention it, I just looked at your flag. Whoops!

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Rob - 2011-02-04

TaliaNCo Wrote:Sorry, I'm unaware of most people's geographic locations on SP. Though now that you mention it, I just looked at your flag. Whoops!

It's okay, we don't trust the police

Hell, society as a whole has a big problem with trust over here

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Kunagisa - 2011-02-04

Sarah Wrote:Not making an effort makes you awful, yes absolutely. If a dog was walking down the street with no tags or collar it doesn't give you the right to take it home and keep it forever, you bring it to the proper authorities where the owner at least has a chance to recover it, regardless of how negligent they may have been. Money should be no different. Just because it's something you want doesn't mean it belongs to you upon finding it.

And bringing up all the things you do right doesn't lessen the things you do wrong.

Rob already beat me to it, but yeah. Finding material possessions on the floor is not the same as dog-napping, Sarah. Even if you found enough cash to purchase your own dog, there's a pretty big difference in finding a pet and finding material goods. Dogs are living creatures that most likely share mutual emotional bonds with their owners, who are worried about the dog as a part of the family rather than worrying about what they lost when dropping cash. Of course, you could pull the "what if they needed the cash to feed their family" example, but that's still not the same as taking their dog away, and it's entirely situational. In any case, if they dropped money, and there's no way of me knowing how badly they needed it, I'm not going to jump to the assumption that they need the money desperately.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - TaliaNCo - 2011-02-04

Rob Wrote:You can't compare the value of a living thing to money. Money comes and goes.

Though $200 could mean someone feeding their children for a couple of weeks.

EDIT: Then again maybe they were going to buy some crack-cocaine on the street corner. LOL! It could go both ways I suppose.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Rob - 2011-02-04

TaliaNCo Wrote:Though $200 could mean someone feeding their children for a couple of weeks.

Kunagisa Wrote:In any case, if they dropped money, and there's no way of me knowing how badly they needed it, I'm not going to jump to the assumption that they need the money desperately.


You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Sarah - 2011-02-04

Kunagisa Wrote:Rob already beat me to it, but yeah. finding material possessions on the floor is not the same as dog-napping, Sarah. Even if you found enough cash to purchase your own dog, there's a pretty big difference in finding a pet and finding material goods. Dogs are leaving creatures that most likely share mutual emotional bonds with their owners, who are worried about the dog as a part of the family rather than worrying about what they lost when dropping cash. Of course, you could pull the "what if they needed the cash to feed their family" example, but that's still not the same as taking their dog away, and it's entirely situational. In any case, if they dropped money, and there's no way of me knowing how badly they needed it, I'm not going to jump to the assumption that they need the money desperately.

Why would you jump to the assumption that they cared about their dog then? They did let it roam the streets, after all.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Rob - 2011-02-04

DOGS ESCAPE

GOOD LORD

You should know they care just by the time you presented the scenario where the dog had a collar.

This what ifs are starting to unnerve me.

TaliaNCo Wrote:EDIT: Then again maybe they were going to buy some crack-cocaine on the street corner. LOL! It could go both ways I suppose.

Also, lol@this

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Sarah - 2011-02-04

Rob Wrote:DOGS ESCAPE

GOOD LORD

MONEY FALLS OUT OF POCKETS

Seriously. Accidents happen and because of that you need to consider the feelings of the owner. You should assume that all dogs roaming the streets have a caring owner just as you should assume that all money came from someone who earned and needed it, and then take the proper steps to ensure that it is able to be returned to them if they really do care, and if they don't, then it becomes yours.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Rob - 2011-02-04

Sarah Wrote:MONEY FALLS OUT OF POCKETS

Specially out of free will.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Hazzy - 2011-02-04

"Hey, who lost 200 dollars?"

My mom tried returning it once. They pocketed it. Counter greed with greed and keep it.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Hanabira.Kage - 2011-02-04

Rob Wrote:DOGS ESCAPE

GOOD LORD

You should know they care just by the time you presented the scenario where the dog had a collar.

This what ifs are starting to unnerve me.



Also, lol@this

[video=youtube;He82NBjJqf8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8[/video]

That depends on where I found it. For example, if I were in a school or any reputable institution I would pass it to the receptionist or a staff member I can trust. If I found it anywhere else, however, I would keep it as long as I did not see who exactly dropped it.


You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - TaliaNCo - 2011-02-04

Hanabira.Kage Wrote:That depends on where I found it. For example, if I were in a school or any reputable institution I would pass it to the receptionist or a staff member I can trust. If I found it anywhere else, however, I would keep it as long as I did not see who exactly dropped it.

Your signature made me LOL!!! Thanks for the giggle. I'm off to bed.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Sarah - 2011-02-04

Rob Wrote:Specially out of free will.

Sure, I'd consider money falling out of my pocket 'free will', since it wasn't my intention for it to happen. pomegranate has a mind of its own sometimes.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Kunagisa - 2011-02-04

Sarah Wrote:Why would you jump to the assumption that they cared about their dog then? They did let it roam the streets, after all.

The possibility of the dog being abandoned does seem rather likely if it's missing its tag. Regardless, a dog is a creature and not an object. The point I was making is that picking up a dog does not have the same weight as picking up cash on the floor. I don't know what the cash was going to be used for, and really don't care much to go out of my way to track the owner of it when it'd be more beneficial for me to pocket the cash. While a dog on the other hand as a higher chance of people desperately looking for it. Anyone can drop cash, poor or rich, but if a dog is lost then it has a higher chance of belonging to a family that desperately cares for it, and I certainly have no reason to keep it. Even if I really wanted the dog, I would actually go through with reporting it as lost and such before keeping it for myself.

The very fact that I'd take cash on the floor, even large amounts, and not give it a second though; yet I wouldn't do the same with a dog regardless of how much I wanted it is proof enough that the two aren't comparable. This comes from someone that, I'm assuming from your standpoint, is a horrible person with twisted morals. But I kind of do have a soft spot for some animals that may be playing its role into this whole hypothetical scenario. After all, I do feel bad for animals that are truly innocent, while I don't feel the same for humans at all. It's not the dog's fault it was abandoned or lost, and so I don't really feel it should be punished for it.

I know you're going to turn this around. If someone loses their money, it's not entirely their fault. After all, why would they purposely drop their cash? It was by accident. But the situation is not comparable under most circumstances, and even then I don't really feel pity for the person.

I lose stuff all the time, and usually don't blame anyone but myself for it.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Rob - 2011-02-04

Sarah Wrote:Sure, I'd consider money falling out of my pocket 'free will', since it wasn't my intention for it to happen. pomegranate has a mind of its own sometimes.

l o l

Can we settle this on something along the lines of ''You could be more of a good samaritan and go out of your way to refund the money to its owner if you trust the police'' or ''It's pretty moronic to keep the money''

Kunagisa Wrote:I lose stuff all the time, and usually don't blame anyone but myself for it.

Also this.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Kunagisa - 2011-02-04

Hey guys, what if we found a little kid in the street that couldn't speak our language to tell us their address? It's perfectly fine to keep them if we're cruel enough to take money off the floor, right? I mean, if you're such a horrible and broken soul that you'd take $200 off the floor, you surely must not care about taking this helpless child as your own possession, right? Finders keepers.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Khoi - 2011-02-04

Kunagisa Wrote:I lose stuff all the time, and usually don't blame anyone but myself for it.

Friend tried to make me feel guilty earlier by twisting the situation around. I honestly told her that I have indeed lost items, and money before. I don't get mad at whoever else that took those items though, because it was my own negligence that led to me losing money / items. It's dumb to blame another person if it's your fault, as an example.

Of course, my friend couldn't think of anything to say, because my sense of 'right and wrong' is different from her's. I realize that there could be a bunch of situations in which a person can lose something, but it's still liable on their part that they lost their item. My dad's lost items before, I actually blamed him because he lost those items. I cannot blame another person for picking up stuff that he lost, because it's human-nature. Even if it's a dog-eat-dog world that we live in now, people have to realize that it's not a world full of rainbows, sunshine, and unicorns.

INB4someone twists this around and decides to derail this into a murder discussion.

I tend to think of this as a battle of wits, because it's similar to how students are also competing in terms of jobs. The smartest, or most willing to work the hardest, ends up doing better. But in this case, the one that is more careful of their belongings wins.

You find 200 dollars on the floor, what do you do? - Rob - 2011-02-04

Kunagisa Wrote:Hey guys, what if we found a little kid in the street that couldn't speak our language to tell us their address? It's perfectly fine to keep them if we're cruel enough to take money off the floor, right?

I'd take it on a whim.

Khoi Wrote:Friend tried to make me feel guilty earlier by twisting the situation around. I honestly told her that I have indeed lost items, and money before. I don't get mad at whoever else that took those items though, because it was my own negligence that led to me losing money / items. It's dumb to blame another person if it's your fault, as an example.

Of course, my friend couldn't think of anything to say, because my sense of 'right and wrong' is different from her's. I realize that there could be a bunch of situations in which a person can lose something, but it's still liable on their part that they lost their item. My dad's lost items before, I actually blamed him because he lost those items. I cannot blame another person for picking up stuff that he lost, because it's human-nature. Even if it's a dog-eat-dog world that we live in now, people have to realize that it's not a world full of rainbows, sunshine, and unicorns.

I don't treat items and money equally.

For example, a cellphone, you can check recent calls and try to find its owner. A camera, you could check pictures, or try to find an address. Money lacks all of the above.