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[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Jellyflower - 2010-11-18
JoeTang Wrote:I cannot understand how people don't use Final Toss. With these new changes and that skill, if you Final Toss and then just use Overswing on them, your DPS is 1117%/s If you just use Overswing or maxed Final Blow, your DPS is 988%/s. If you use Final Toss and don't manage to juggle them, your DPS is 978%/s.
Overswing - (100% + 2* 330% + 2 * 420%)/3 = 533%
Final Toss - 300% * 1.3 = 390%
Why would you even use it? I don't get it.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Kalovale - 2010-11-18
Jerry-Boyle Wrote:Instead of taking all the data from my thread and putting it here, I'll give you a link; http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1773231/0/Evan_Reorganziation_of_skills.html#
Not sure if this is bannable offense here, if so remove it
It's a lolable offense. Aran is definitely looking good, I might continue mine, seeing how I already have my Drk's gears.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - rattown - 2010-11-18
Jellyflower Wrote:Overswing - (100% + 2* 330% + 2 * 420%)/3 = 533%
Final Toss - 300% * 1.3 = 390%
Why would you even use it? I don't get it.
I think he meant the 100% bonus you get damage wise when hitting monsters that are in mid air. (a case that only exists if monsters survive 1 cycle of overswing). I think thats whats meant by 1117%
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - hamad138 - 2010-11-18
guys arans sux even with the buff.
Make DPm calculation our DPM is still worse refered to others!
We need 35% back from snow charge.. or maybe 45% dmg boost
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Malthe - 2010-11-18
hamad138 Wrote:guys arans sux even with the buff.
Make DPm calculation our DPM is still worse refered to others!
We need 35% back from snow charge.. or maybe 45% dmg boost
Arans are fine now, seriously, giving them their 35% snow charge after this would make them kinda broken again, IMO
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Satellite - 2010-11-18
hamad138 Wrote:guys arans sux even with the buff.No
Make DPm calculation our DPM is still worse refered to others!
We need 35% back from snow charge.. or maybe 45% dmg boost
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - hamad138 - 2010-11-18
our dpm got boosted by 5% very nice
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Liteness - 2010-11-18
hamad138 Wrote:guys arans sux even with the buff.
Make DPm calculation our DPM is still worse refered to others!
We need 35% back from snow charge.. or maybe 45% dmg boost
just stop posting about stuff u dont know, GMS=/=KMS alright? ty
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - JoeTang - 2010-11-18
Jellyflower Wrote:Overswing - (100% + 2* 330% + 2 * 420%)/3 = 533%
Final Toss - 300% * 1.3 = 390%
Why would you even use it? I don't get it.
Every hit on Overswing doesn't occur at the same speed, and Final Toss doesn't either. Final Toss is so fast that despite doing only 390% damage, your average DPS is only 10%/s lower than without it. Final Blow is so slow that if it's not maxed, it lowers your DPS despite doing more damage in a single hit and both your normal attack and Double Swing of Over Swing combined.
It's a faster hit that you can achieve without using Final Blow which can unpin monsters. Seriously. You guys are making it seem like it's obsolete the second you hit fourth job.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - MrGen - 2010-11-18
I agree with you JoeTang, but I just don't think anyone is saying that it's obsolete. Rather, it's just one of those things that people could care less about doing it when attacking. I can only speak for myself, but I find it rather annoying to have to press up to activate Final Toss and follow-through with worrying about juggling them; when I could just spam attack without having to do anything fancy with arrow keys. And move on to the next mob of monsters.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Jellyflower - 2010-11-18
Final toss is really weird, or overswing in general.
All taken in 30 seconds:
Super snowboard + booster: 23.6666 OS, 18.75 OS + final toss -> 37866.56 %, 37020% (# OS * 1600% + # toss * 390%)
Arclglaive + no booster: 18.3333 OS, 15 OS + final toss -> 29338.28%, 29850%
Pure OS would grant faster combo charge but then with combo recharge, this may not be as important a factor anymore. Oh by the way, I was never an advocate for final blow, I think the skill is absolutely garbage, it obviously lowers your dps in all situation unless you count hitting things out of your normal range.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Solarboy - 2010-11-18
[video=youtube;Vyy2G3BQ-Y4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyy2G3BQ-Y4&feature=sub[/video]
The new teleport skill looks extremly broken, also, speed got a yipeededoo raise and all attacks are better than using illusion.
*Credits to mazefind.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Worthyness - 2010-11-18
lol at the random teleport o_O
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Corn - 2010-11-18
Oh god...that teleport skill is....just pure awesomeness...
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Liteness - 2010-11-18
looks like hacks LOL
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Solarboy - 2010-11-18
Corn Wrote:Oh god...that teleport skill is....just pure awesomeness...
I'm gonna enjoy ksing people in large maps.
But I don't really see how usefull that skill will be.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Corn - 2010-11-18
Solarboy Wrote:I'm gonna enjoy ksing people in large maps.
But I don't really see how usefull that skill will be.
This is basically the fastest movement skill in the game, man.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Abysseon - 2010-11-18
Corn Wrote:This is basically the fastest movement skill in the game, man.
Lol, reminds me of nightcrawler in the opening x-men movie.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Solarboy - 2010-11-18
Corn Wrote:This is basically the fastest movement skill in the game, man.
Maybe, it is very random though.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Roxas - 2010-11-18
Worthyness Wrote:lol at the random teleport o_O
What random teleport? Am I missing something?