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[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Hazzy - 2010-01-06
Kabanaw Wrote:Even if you could get there with door, there's still the issue that they won't get exp from gaurds until 123 and chiefs until 128, and due to the new exp formula you're better off training at this level.
Someone would bring a PG mule. D:
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - KajitiSouls - 2010-01-06
I just saw this thread...
Paladins are now fking GODS in Oblivion 3/4/5!
(notice I didn't say LOLPALLY)
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Kabanaw - 2010-01-06
Hazzy Wrote:Someone would bring a PG mule. D:
So now we've got:
level 14x-15x AM to 1HKO mobs
level 131+ bishop to door the leecher and provide HS
a PG mule with a high enough HP to survive a hit
That exp cut for a 10x-12x is getting pretty small...
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - CarpeDiem - 2010-01-06
YAY!
More Mages can steal my maps
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Rick - 2010-01-06
Why is it that when any class other than a Magician uses a popular map they are training on it, yet when a Magician uses it they are hogging it? Magicians need to train to, for Arch Mages it's all they can do
Oblivion 5 looks much more suited to ultimates anyway.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Hazzy - 2010-01-06
Because when mages start to train somewhere, the population of people training there goes up 5 fold. There's just that many of them.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Rick - 2010-01-06
And it is hogging... why?
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Bribery - 2010-01-06
The problem I have with Bishops/Arch Mages being able to train in a popular map without a minidungeon is that if an pimento AM/Bishop decides to come in and KS, the only way to KS them out is with another Bishop/AM. Galloperas is a perfect example of this. Oblivion 4 is going to be packed during peak hours/2x events and I/Ls can easily KS anyone out of that map now.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Takebacker - 2010-01-06
Rick Wrote:And it is hogging... why?
Because the majority of I/Ls are dicks during 2x events.
This will only become a problem however if the new area KMS makes does not have a new O4 with better exp mobs.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - SethElite - 2010-01-06
I like how people cry about ultimates when mages have to deal with getting their asses KSed by every other non-melee class until they get ultimates.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Rick - 2010-01-06
But why is it hogging? They're not using any more than they need. And once more, Oblivion 4 is not spammer friendly. Oblivion 5 IS.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Takebacker - 2010-01-06
SethElite Wrote:I like how people cry about ultimates when mages have to deal with getting their asses KSed by every other non-melee class until they get ultimates.
How on earth can a ranged class KS a mage pre 4th job?
Rick Wrote:Oblivion 5 is spammer friendly.
Edit: Whoops, forgot that everyone trains on oblivion 4.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Bomber - 2010-01-06
Takebacker Wrote:Because the majority of I/Ls are dicks during 2x events.
This will only become a problem however if the new area KMS makes does not have a new O4 with better exp mobs.
Dreadfully, I have to agree.
@ rick: Ults don't always hit top/bottom platforms. I've tried on heavens hammer, though I'm pretty sure they have the same range.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Rick - 2010-01-06
Is it wrong for me to wish that every Anego, Pianus, Crow, whatever map barred all non-Magicians from entry? Because I got pretty bloody tired of being KSed in there. Deal with it. Just because some decide to abuse their power, don't wish ill upon the rest.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Bomber - 2010-01-06
Rick Wrote:Is it wrong for me to wish that every Anego, Pianus, Crow, whatever map barred all non-Magicians from entry? Because I got pretty bloody tired of being KSed in there. Deal with it. Just because some decide to abuse their power, don't wish ill upon the rest.
Oh, so because we kill bosses (though I'd say it's bad to KS), you have the right to KS us?
Edit: I just noticed ure last sentence. :|
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Dusk - 2010-01-06
DualReaver Wrote:I wonder if this means we'll have leeching at O4.
There aren't any 100% safe spots at O4, and the one almost safe spot is way over in the top right corner. Kinda hard to AFK, in any case.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Dual - 2010-01-06
The main reason why people complain about Mages being able to use a map is the fact that they already are gods of training in the lower exp areas. If an I/L AM can get more exp at Oblivion 4, he will go train there. And then we experience the whole "needing a minidungeon" problem again.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Rick - 2010-01-06
If a non-Magician has the right to go where the best exp is, so should a Magician, and others shouldn't expect otherwise.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - IllegallySane - 2010-01-06
DualReaver Wrote:The main reason why people complain about Mages being able to use a map is the fact that they already are gods of training in the lower exp areas. If an I/L AM can get more exp at Oblivion 4, he will go train there. And then we experience the whole "needing a minidungeon" problem again.
This. O4 is as good a training map as it can come for solo-ers, and without mini-dungeons the last thing I need are I/L jerks kicking me out of the only map I actually enjoy training in.
Also, I see my PoT future looking grim... sigh I may need to rely on Scarlion/Zakum helm selling now to make ends meet.
Rick Wrote:If a non-Magician has the right to go where the best exp is, so should a Magician, and others shouldn't expect otherwise.
Not before they at least implement a mini-dungeon version of Time Temple. The only reason they didn't need it before was because A/Ms can't 1-hit/nuke the whole map. Now that they can, people WILL invade, and we need more maps to accompany the inevitable amount of people populating the Oblivion maps.
[1.2.279] Skill nerfs this time - Dual - 2010-01-06
Rick Wrote:If a non-Magician has the right to go where the best exp is, so should a Magician, and others shouldn't expect otherwise.
They do have the right to. We only complain about it because it reduces the number of maps we can use. Now we're going to need an Oblivion 4 Minidungeon.