imjon Wrote:In case anyone cares, there's finally a video with Dark Fog.

At 1:18:

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[youtube]UFaS2eK2_yE[/youtube]

EDIT: And the Evan promo video.

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[youtube]cbvh8jENE4E[/youtube]

... Assuming these haven't been posted already. D:

FrozNlite Wrote:look at Illusion. If that skill is sped up to Triple Throw speeds

BombsAway Wrote:No class should have training based around the ability to critical except archers who have constant access to a critical buff. So saying "wait to see crit" is kind of pointless because if we're not seeing 1/5 hits critical already then it's not viable for training and therefore is worthless information.

Takebacker Wrote:Well for one thing, the promo video character was hitting 50ks with flame wheel. That * crit with or without SE is a huge boost in power.

Not to mention with blaze, if the first hit crits, even if the rest of the hits don't crit it boosts the average power of the rest of them since they depend off the first hit if i know the chain lightning effect well enough.

BombsAway Wrote:If you're not consistently hitting crits then it's not a viable training method. You can't train with the hopes of occasionally hitting a crit and count that as good training.

BombsAway Wrote:And since we're not seeing any crits in any videos

Takebacker Wrote:Well for one thing, the promo video character was hitting 50ks with flame wheel. That * crit with or without SE is a huge boost in power.

BombsAway Wrote:No class should have training based around the ability to critical except archers who have constant access to a critical buff. So saying "wait to see crit" is kind of pointless because if we're not seeing 1/5 hits critical already then it's not viable for training and therefore is worthless information.

Satellite Wrote:Idk why, but for me, Evan looks extremely boring compared to Aran.

ChosenSoul Wrote:

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Not according to that... just saying.

Next;



I fail to understand the constant access argument... its a passive on them, how is that not constant access? I feel like their not critting because theirs something wrong with the skill atm not that they don't crit.

Moving on;

Honestly... flame wheel is gonna be a pretty damn GOOD training skill...
I feel like everyone is basing this off of Skelegon training. So what if they cant do that? Thats not some magical requirement all mages have to pass... ever heard of training elsewhere?

Look at these mobs at ToT;

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* Sorry for the blurriness.

That Evan was hitting roughly 40k on those mobs, which can only get better by level, and also we have no idea if that Evan's skills were max or anything... but... 40k on each mob, with a fire wand, is 50k on each mob, and in the Ice area in Temple of Time, that's 75k per mob... meaning in the first room... Holy Crap! ... 1 hit = 3,350 exp, and since that skill hits 6 mobs, if you have 6 lined up, thats 20100 exp, much better than killing 4 skelegons lined up in 3 hits for 18000 exp, cuz in that amount of time, at ToT you would have gotten 60300 exp. And eventually that damage will just go up to the point that, you would be training in the last room, which is a mix of mobs with exp's of 4500 and 4960 (sound familiar, -cough- skelegons -cough-) and you would be 1 hitting all of them. 4x exp when u get 18000/19840 per mob, and you can 1 hit them, is 108000-119040 exp PER FLAME WHEEL O_O. And even if people are skeptical, the Evan RIGHT THERE in the video, can already hit enough to 1 hit qualm monks, so thats 3350 x 6 = 20100 x 4 = 80400 exp per flame wheel in ToT. And not to mention... if you really need to finish things off because u couldn't 1 hit them, blaze wouldn't exactly be a bad choice (or in the corner where you would only need to kill like 1.)

I rest my case.

TehMatt Wrote:iirc, the time temple mobs aren't weak to fire. They are weak to lightning.

ChosenSoul Wrote:

Not according to that... just saying.

Takebacker Wrote:You forget he probably isn't luckless. Just saying.

I did see the 9 from the 39k and thought 49k, then writing 50k while meaning near 50k though.

ChosenSoul Wrote:

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According to Hidden-Street, here in GMS...





And I may be a weak mage for now, but...

According to Ifrit...

DualReaver Wrote:I'm a Paladin. They're weak to both here in GMS.

TehMatt Wrote:My bad, my memory did not serve me correctly. I thought I had remembered that from the really old extraction Fiel did (when TT was new) that the ice mobs weren't weak to fire, and that the oblivion mobs weren't weak to ice (which I believe is still true since I don't notice any damage boost being there on my aran).

Qualms are weak to Fire and Lightning. Oblivions are weak to just Poison. It really makes me mad.

Bribery Wrote:Here's a decent training video, though it's on Insoya (someone upload to youtube plox). He has pretty good control over his character, but I still think Evan's attacks are too slow and weak. The official release date seems to be December 17th, so hopefully they make some more changes before then.

Level 142 Evan @ Skeles

He's actually quite strong equipment wise so you can't use the "he's only weak because it's KMST" argument. He has 1141 Matk at level 142, without Maple Warrior, which is very impressive even by GMS standards. The SS is posted below the video.

Also notice how he doesn't use a single 10th mastery skill. Either he doesn't have any points in them, or the 10th mastery skill level is 150+.

Bribery Wrote:Here's the Youtube version of the video from AristosMS.