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Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Matty - 2008-09-20
Level 43 Beginner
Pros: Sometimes hits good raw damage. Many people admire your hardwork and uniqueness. Feel special! 
Cons: No skills. Extremely unstable damage. Also many times get called a noob, and no one partys you or pq's with you. Your best gear isnt always your "coolest" gear. More attack = Less accuracy/speed and vise versa.First Beginner to post in this thread!!!
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - RedMondays - 2008-09-21
Lvl 140 F/P
Advantages:
Easy to level
Massive attack on Meteor
Hardly any other F/P
Paralyze is deasent, long freeze better single att then CL
Is more versitile in all situations then most classes
Adapts to situations
Massive amount of skills
Famed for being f/p
Disadvantages:
I/L don't like me (idk why rofl)
No f/p to ever get advice from
Pretty alone
Getting asked 5000 times a day for leech
Telling people i wont leech them, then the begging
Weak against one target
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - FlameChocobo - 2008-12-04
Level 76 Hybrid Crusader
Pros:
-Allowed to actually use Sword (for training) and Axe (for Boss Fights).
-Decent Soul Rohen and Demon Axe (I love using MTS).
-Higher HP than my Pure Axe Crusader.
-Ciders > Rage with the cost of 5 Accuracy. Also has 8 more ATT than Warrior Elixirs.
Cons:
-Power Guard-less, so I'm gonna have to rely too much on Priests when training on stronger monsters.
-Difficult to level until 80+
-Have to go back to Showa Town to stock up on some more ciders which take away my use inventory spot unless married.
-Have to head back to Singapore to repot.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Kubi - 2008-12-08
Marksman
+rare breed; commonly get people asking "what's a marksman?", gets a sense of uniqueness... some people joke, while some people honestly don't have any clue what a marksman is
+cheaper equipment/books/scrolls; crossbowmen specific
+capable of hitting high number damage, with snipe and pierce
+freeze/bird helps with training; don't get hit as often = lowers rate of pot usage compared to other classes
+snipe seems more useful than concentrate as an ultimate skill
+versatile when training = less boring; immobilizing and high mobbing capabilities
-since we're a rare class, it's hard to find a good scrolled crossbow since there aren't many around
-sometimes gets picked on by people; saying marksmen sucks because they don't have hurricane...
-slow, though flexible to train almost anywhere; they don't have exactly have the highest % exp/hr compared to other classes
-low hp problems; can't do higher up bossing unless you hp wash a lot. this is a problem in both archer classes though, not just marksmen...
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-12-08
Kasuhitomi, lv 120 Night Lord (...should be more like Night Mistress..):
Advantages:
-Gets free fame(s) because random, horny preteens likes to hit on me (yes, this is first on the list of advantages...)
-Incredibly high damage
-Hits fast
-High mobility (Haste + Flash Jump)
-Makes mesos easily because I can avoid being hit at times, thus lets pots being used, that and Meso Up!
-Onyx Apples boosts my damage A HELL LOT.
-Fun to play
-People wants me in parties, especially for bossing (Zakum, Pap, etc)
-One of the best DPS and bossing-classes in the game. I said one OF the best, not the best, please don't confuse this part.
Disadvantages:
-Costs a crap-load to be 'effective' and strong.
-I get random stalkers, because of my NL's gender.
-Need to HP wash to be 'cool' like the other Night Lords, apparently.
-I get treated like the typical, everyday, piece of crap Sin, before someone even gets to know me. Such as people thinking that I play a Sin only to KS, which isn't the case...
-People hates Sins for their common stereotypes. =(
-Overpriced equipments and scrolls (this includes stars).
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Dusk - 2008-12-09
Outlaw
Pros:
- Damage rises drastically over the rather pitiful first and second job (surprising people who think Outlaws are weak), and rather quickly: most skills are maxed at level 20 instead of 30, and become powerful linearly, instead of slowing down at higher levels (Burst Fire is +5% damage per hit per point, and doesn't slow down to 2 or 3% at higher levels of BF)
- My single-target damage is ridiculous. Burst Fire matches, if not exceeds, skills like Strafe and L7+SP, plus I've got Octopi and stuff.
- Above average mobility
- Large variety of active skills that have unique uses that complement each other
- Wings is fun as hell
Cons:
- Low HP, though higher than archers and thieves
- Mobbing capacity is pretty low
- Lack of close range combat skills, save Fake Shot, Ice Splitter, and Flamethrower, none of which are good at taking down single targets. Recoil helps and has no minimum range but it's got an annoying cooldown.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Derin - 2008-12-23
Well, I got TWO classes, so why not?
Flame Wizard (magician knight of cygnus)
Yays (Advantages)
-Flame Pillar is extremely overpowered (Wee), so that's fast leveling, equaling a higher level blessing on my main, which will lead it to level faster, which is a higher level blessing for the wizard.
-Fire Curtain is AWESOME.
-I'm a Pyromaniac (LoL?)
-6 AP/level and being a Knight is highly appealing
-Free medals. They may not be 1/1/1/1, but they are something you can work with
-A MASSIVE HORDE of Cygnus-exclusive quests, which contribute a TON towards getting the 800 quest medal (<3333)
-Some 3rd job mage skills are in my second job. Well, all I know of currently is my Magic Booster :X
Nays (Disadvantages)
-Being pure fire is REALLY bad, especially if we have to fight something fire strong. I'm not sure about Fire Demon or anything, though.
-There's a slight "bandwagon" of Flame Wizards, due to their pure awesomeness.
-Flame Sprite sometimes causes unnecesary hate against nearby mobs
-Our fire arrow may be a visual roller coaster, but it's nerfed
-No poison = No death teddies D: Least we have C-2
-We cap at 120, so after that, we either just mass Jyakumu (Zakum) with some Koreans, or just pointlessly solo when I'm bored, or just solo Mureung Gym until I finally get that Black Belt, OR finish up any quests that I haven't done already, with the exception of Blackbull's new house (The one with that stupid deed), the Nependeath Juice quest and Arwen's Glass Shoe (Special dissaprovement for this - Fire Boars are FIRE-BASED = half damage with attacks = wtp?)
Gunslinger
Yays
-We are FUN
-I get to fill stuff full of lead
-Guns are left-handed weapons. Being a lefty, this is awesome
-Awesome tactical skills that, along with Sharp Eyes are beautiful and you will - I guarantee you - Fap to.
-Elemental attacks + Element amp + Summons that dont need rocks + Skill Buffs for those summons F-T-W.
-Homing is too awesome to describe in words. High raw damage PLUS that little Beacon of heaven is oh, so sweet. Adv. Homing only makes it better with a +% increased damage taken on that target.
-THE highest singletarget DPM in the game
-Do what you want cause a pirate be free, you are a pirate! I am a pirate, and I resemble one more thoroughly with pistols and awesome clothes!
-We're not buff whores, we're ATTACKERS ALL THE WAY
-Dash, Wings and Withdraw are all highly tactical ways to get away from mobs and are sweet. Plus getting on the hackershack in Henesys Market is fun.
-invis shot has a vertical range. Awesome, no?
-Thanks to our dex, we are one of the most accurate classes in the game. Heck, I could already hit D.Roys (~lvl73) at 33. Isn't that fun?
Nays
-Crap damage initially. Mastery GREATLY improves this and Invis Shot gives us a new edge, along with Triple Fire setting the new standard for non-crit damage :3
-Gun whacking is useless and should go away
-Imo, until you max mastery and begin working on invis shot, unless your gear is GODLIKE, or if your getting TWs in CPQ Or if your leeching, leveling is semi-hellish
-Dex stuff is expensive, and seeing as it's our main attack.. Yeah.
-Battleship DOES break down, and considering the minor-degree lag in KMS, if I ever go to a boss and use Battleship, doing the Dismounting tactic to downright avoid damage is difficult.
That's all I could come up with atm
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Itay - 2008-12-23
Level 141 Half-Blood-Marksman
Pros:
Unique
Fun. I think it's important.
Ability to Freeze.
Alot of mobbing skills.
3rd job is FAST. Gobies + Snipers = Sex.
The most important one, well, I think you guys know what it is.. Like banditcom said, Can't spell sex without SE.
Can survive anything, including horntail.
Crossbows are cheap, yet hard to find.
Cons:
Forgotten class
hugeslam Wrote:Disadvantages:
- Lower single-target DPM than Bowmasters and SE Nightlords
- etc'..
^ We're not even included as SEers.
Half Blood Build means 25 less DEX (25 washed 25 unwashed, didnt lvl with int gear) which doesnt matter too much, but if you like numbers it does.
Crap single DPM: Strafe Strafe Strafe Strafe Strafe Strafe Strafe Snipe Strafe Strafe Strafe Strafe
Bowmasters are chosen over us
Weakest bossers except for mages
Someone spams: L>BM FOR ZAK@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Where's the MM?
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When (IF) they raise snipe to 200k like JMS, then it'd be a whole different story.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Kevin0215 - 2009-01-31
Level 110 Sader
Pros
-Great at soloing, both bosses and training mobs
-Good DPM with the right equips
-Deaths are rare because of high def and hp
-Certain 2-H swords just look bad ass
Cons
-Less desired than DK's for parties
-Above average equips are expensive and hard to find
-Needs a lot of expensive hp pots
-Training gets a little boring in the later levels due to lack of new skills until 4th job
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - randompeep - 2009-01-31
Level 5x Hunter
Pros:
Good Mobbing Skills
High Acc.
Cheap(er) scrolls
I liek mai Akhasuma? (;])
Cons:
KSed by sins, dits
Single Hit could be better (1 Strafe ftw!)
Low HP
Still can't hit that Elder Wraith >.>
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Kim41 - 2009-02-01
Lvl 165 Pure PA Drk
Pros:
- Rather easy to get into zakum/HT at lower than normal levels
- Bishops/mages like HB
- Fame/compliments for being "unique" and making it this far
- High HP, so washing isn't required to boss at lower levels
- Polearms are very cheap compared to spears
- Despite using berserk being difficult at times, it makes training/bossing interesting, imo
Cons:
- One of the lowest 1 vs 1 DPS classes in the game
- Mean people make fun of you for being pure PA
- Hybrids can pretty much do everything a pure can
- DrKs usually can't zerk during HT/zak if there's a bishop in the party
- Can't just spam pot like any other class to stay alive or you can't use zerk
- Zerking is harder sometimes with fury since you're taking more hits to kill monsters, giving them more time to attack back
- Very weak without berserk (damage literally cut in half)
- "HB mule" is rather degrading
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Fumni - 2009-02-01
Aw Kim, I think your polearm is just right :f6:
Lvl 154 Bishop
Advantages:
-Holy Symbol
-Genesis
-Invinicibility and Elemental Resistance allows me to tank some serious damage
Disadvantages:
-Bad damage until 4th job
-even with 4th job skills, damage still is bad cos' of bad formula (except Genesis)
-Genesis, although powerful, is rather costly potion wise
-There are more bishops in Mardia than we know what to do with.
-"Heal, please."
-"Holy Symbol, please."
-"Bless, please."
-"Omg! You forgot Holy Symbol!"
-"Do Gen! That's my favorite skill!"
-"Hi, I don't know you, can you leech me cos' I'm lazy and can't train?"
-"Don't use summons/ultimates at bosses, my 20-year-old computer will lag me out!"
-"When are you gonna Holy Symbol me? I need extra exp. from green mushrooms.
"
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - FlameChocobo - 2009-02-01
Level 83 Hybrid Crusader *Updated!*
Pros:
- Allowed to actually use Sword (for training) and Axe (for Boss Fights).
- Decent Soul Rohen and Demon Axe (I love using MTS).
- Higher HP than my Pure Axe Crusader.
- Ciders > Rage with the cost of 5 Accuracy. Also has 8 more ATT than Warrior Elixirs and are even cheaper.
- Always nice to Priests. (I'm not a Dragon Knight, but still).
Cons:
- Power Guard-less until level 111 (Level 3 Rage ), making it serious pot burn if training without a priest. So that means I'm gonna have to rely too much on Priests when training on stronger monsters.
- Difficult to level because of hackers in Hime. So I'm gonna have to be at Master Death Teddies, then move on to Grim Phantom Watches when level 90.
- Have to go back to Showa Town to stock up on some more ciders which take away my use inventory slot unless married.
- Have to head back to Singapore to repot (only for MP if I have 6000 HP).
- "OMFG WHY U NO HAB RAGE????@@@@"
- Decent equips (Especially Sword and Axe) are difficult to find without MTS, Thus, are expensive.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - AndCapitals - 2009-02-02
Lvl 179 Lunchbox/RK Hero
+ Best Solo Bossing Class in the game
+ Highest DPS of any Melee
+ Only warrior job that can surpass a BM/NL in DPS
+ Unlike range jobs, also has the advantage of 3 hitting with Brandish.
+ Stance. No wasted time in between attacks getting back to a spot.
+ Maple Shields/Shield W. Att provide unique attk boost.
+ Maxed Rush basically takes away any speed defeciency the job had.
+ High HP. Nothing fazes me. Achilles. Tank.
+ Built in Atk Potter (Enrage/Rage).
+ Fast attacks.
+ Flashy 99ks!
+ Never have to rely on anyone in boss fights aka "HB or I die" or "SE my damage sucks! or "apples i have alchemist!".
+ Weapons don't require your secondary stat (i.e. Dex to wear X equip)
- Not able to kill certain bosses due to high avoid (The Boss etc)
- A lot of skills to recast! (Combo/Stance/Booster/Power Guard/MW)
- Almost always underestimated in boss runs.
I can't really think of negatives to the job. I've played pretty much every single job in the game at one point and I always found Heros have the best balance of attack, reliability and stamina.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - TFindlay - 2009-02-04
81 Sword Crusader
Pros:
-One of the best 3rd job bossers after you get panic
-Don't have to worry about dying
-Pretty versatile- great at 1v1 as well as taking care of large mobs
-Coma'ing a nice fat mob feels so good =)
-Can hit the highest single number (excluding meso exp.)
-Power guard is nice, rage is decent at pqs
-Equipment is not uber expensive
Cons:
-Slow... I don't mind it too much but it's annoying sometimes
-I kinda envy DK's fury range. You have to be pretty much right up against a mob to hit them all.
-Final attack makes jump attacking kind of annoying
-To a small extent we have to deal with the "DKs pwn saders in 3rd job" stereotype. I like proving those people wrong though.
-We don't reach our full extent until 90-100+. This is kind of why people think DKs > saders, because they only have to max their main attack skill to be powerful while we need max combo, coma, and panic.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - DarkestTempest - 2009-02-06
level 133 Marksman
Pros:
+Range
+Puppet = Sex. Best non-damage/buff skill in the entire game IMHO, though I'm probably missing a skill here and there.
+Freezing move
+Freezing summon, and a stunning summon for backup.
+A strong, versatile skillset that allows me to give a good response to any situation
+Snipe
+Cheap gears and scrolls (relatively)
+NL goes gaga over SE. Everyone else loves it too, really.
-HP problem is bleh. I'm somewhat blooded and I still can't survive a bunch of things I wish I can survive. Mainly right pianus. CWK2 sounds pretty scary to me. Puppet helps out in some cases but... still.
-Needs work to surpass BMs. The skill improvement and damage cap increase helps but they ain't here yet, and SI isn't everywhere.
-Piercing is meh. At least until the 1 second thing arrives. And even then Snipe sound better to me cuz I boss more than I train and I mostly stick around Guardians anyways when I do train.
-Dragon Breath doesn't work on mobile bosses. If only I could push that BF/pap around...
-People seem to automatically assume BMs as better.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Trystan28 - 2009-02-06
Level 76 White Knight
Pros:
* Final Attack saved my butt more than once. And saving a little MP here and there on attacking certainly can't go amiss.
* Power Guard is great.
* Ice Charge is effective, even at level 1.
* I often get praised for being a WK. Usually by the same people who "lolpage"'d me in 2nd job.
* Threaten, Ice Charge, and being able to tank with Power Guard make up somewhat for not having normal party skills. If I can't make the characters better, at least I can make the monsters easier to kill.
Cons:
* 40 levels of "lolpage"
* "OMG u has no RAGE!"
* "Y U NOT DK?"
* Not a great bosser.
* No stat-boosting party skills.
* Limited training areas in early 3rd job depending on which element you chose to max first.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - pandapple - 2009-02-06
67 beginner omqqqq!!
pros :
yes! cheaper taxis.
yes! die.
cons :
everything is a con. ;[
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - z0mgc00k13 - 2009-02-06
Spoiler
Spoiler
if where talking long term then ill put up more
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - shine of voice - 2009-03-22
Pro:
Brandish
Con:
Bowmasters/Marksmen