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Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - GameMX - 2009-09-18
ITT: We have our panties in a bunch, all of us. I'm looking at you two, you know who you are...
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Combattente - 2009-09-18
Erich Wrote:Again, think about what JMS has been able to accomplish with neo tokyo with nearly any attack equips, and the fact they are horrible bossers. You DO see bowmen in those videos. Sure they are 18x, but they ARE there. I get what you are saying, but when you are 18x with average equips GMS wise, then talk. Just because some classes can't do it very well 3/4ths through their maple career doesn't mean it is useless and a horrible area for every class and is the worst area in Maplestory. It's better then shanghai.
Aufheben deals 24k damage, how in this world can even a level 200 of any ranged class survive that damage? If it's avoidable, then it's another story, yet, many normal monsters deal HUGE unavoidable amounts of damage, and it's really hard to train there, making it suck. The EXP isn't anything GREAT as well, considering the high amount of damage dealt.
BAW.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Link - 2009-09-18
Combattente Wrote:Aufheben deals 24k damage, how in this world can even a level 200 of any ranged class survive that damage? If it's avoidable, then it's another story, yet, many normal monsters deal HUGE unavoidable amounts of damage, and it's really hard to train there, making it suck. The EXP isn't anything GREAT as well, considering the high amount of damage dealt.
BAW.
Hey, if you're not willing to man up to a challenge, just say so. Go ahead, let all of the JP players be better than you.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Erich - 2009-09-18
Combattente Wrote:Aufheben deals 24k damage, how in this world can even a level 200 of any ranged class survive that damage? If it's avoidable, then it's another story, yet, many normal monsters deal HUGE unavoidable amounts of damage, and it's really hard to train there, making it suck. The EXP isn't anything GREAT as well, considering the high amount of damage dealt.
BAW.
You realize there are ranged classes in almost all of the aufheben videos? Quite a few BMs also. And aufheben isn't part of the main neo tokyo hub: we can baw about that later. Point is: sure the damage could be nerfed by 1k all around, but it's near fine as it is. Level up 10 times and try again later. I just hate the fact you are going to RUIN it for global, since nexon MIGHT listen to you.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - MrFry - 2009-09-18
Why would this ruin it for global if they dont quite listen to what they're supposed to?
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Tikey - 2009-09-18
Dusk Wrote:How the hell do you kill Anego as a melee class or mage without getting hit by the slap?
A lot of melee classes can jump attack. Mages just take a while to kill, but they can stay far away enough to not get hit. Plus slow helps by keeping her knocked back at her invisible wall.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Phoenix - 2009-09-18
Oh wow those swords are end game =O
I could do without 10 att earrings though....
As for Showa Bosses...I agree with the horrible design. Anego is somewhat fine once you can survive a slap. Otherwise it's just hugging and spamming. Same for BGA & BGB...But tell me what warrior is EVER useful at Gun Boss....even HB isn't required.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - SoupySoupy - 2009-09-18
Erich Wrote:You realize there are ranged classes in almost all of the aufheben videos? Quite a few BMs also. And aufheben isn't part of the main neo tokyo hub: we can baw about that later. Point is: sure the damage could be nerfed by 1k all around, but it's near fine as it is. Level up 10 times and try again later. I just hate the fact you are going to RUIN it for global, since nexon MIGHT listen to you.
Are they HP washed or not? Because 24k damage is crazy, and it looks like some of the other mobs deal over what even a level 200 thief/ bowman could take with HB if they haven't washed.
A challenge is one thing, but, pouring real money into the game for high HP =/= a challenge.
And I don't know about other people, but I'm a very "Just play the game" kind of guy. MTS merchanting for HP is not something I find fun.
As for the 10 attack earrings, weren't they a mistake that was patched back to 2 m.atk instead or something like that?
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Typhoon - 2009-09-18
Phoenix Wrote:As for Showa Bosses...I agree with the horrible design. Anego is somewhat fine once you can survive a slap. Otherwise it's just hugging and spamming. Same for BGA & BGB...But tell me what warrior is EVER useful at Gun Boss....even HB isn't required.
not all bosses are meant for all classes. otherwise you'd see alot more mages trying to solo BF's
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Dusk - 2009-09-18
TheTyphoon Wrote:not all bosses are meant for all classes. otherwise you'd see alot more mages trying to solo BF's
All bosses should be meant for all classes. Exclusivity doesn't belong in this game. I don't mind taking hours and hours to gain levels but it's pineappleing stupid to force a level 180+ to play a different class to do something a 12x of another class could do easily.
Especially when the stumbling block is that the boss 1hkos.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Phoenix - 2009-09-18
TheTyphoon Wrote:not all bosses are meant for all classes. otherwise you'd see alot more mages trying to solo BF's
Fp's do just fine at BF.
I don't usually complain about G-boss, I've known for a long time that when you give a boss 120 avoid...you give a big FU to any class that requires accuracy.
I think that's the main difference I'm emphasizing, there's a difference between not being very useful, and being utterly useless...
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Kirov - 2009-09-18
Phoenix Wrote:I could do without 10 att earrings though....
Oh Ive changed my mind, I don't want NT in global, I can see it now all these threads about the 10 Att earnings that won't exist.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - SoupySoupy - 2009-09-18
I also question their motives on the boss damage thing. I'm not so sure we'd see bosses that were made virtually inaccessible to certain classes solo because they OHKO them if this were a normal game where you couldn't use real money to increase your HP.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - aslemn - 2009-09-18
You guys are talking about something that you never experienced.
It's the death for ranged jobs?Ha,really,you guys just talk about odaibara,at least,toukyo 2095 is good for training though,same to akhiabara.
A Monster that drops a 30 att shuriken,24 atk 4k per set and free recharge bullet,60% shield matk and atk,so,you tell me that this one should be nerfed?
Sincerely,if the monsters there were nerfed,and it turned a "Look,i can spam my ultimate skills in this map,freeze everything and start doing this until i find a good drop",sincerely,i prefer a dam hard town,with amazing equips,monsters that deal huge damage,and shitloads of bosses and medals than having a loleasy town,with easy and freeze/poison able monsters.
Plus,having weapons that can deal Darkness,slow or something,and getting it with 100% chance every time that you attack is just amazing,even if it's weak.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - byakugan - 2009-09-18
Oh well, In my opinion, as long as you have to HP wash to be able to explore and enjoy some thing in MS, it is wrong. If it is necessary to HP wash in other to be able to enjoy Neo Tokio, it should be changed to eliminate said requirement
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - aslemn - 2009-09-18
Really?
Then,you'll have to HP wash for time temple,the highest damage by a non boss in Neo Tokyo is 4k if you don't know.
Plus most of the monsters are freezable there.
What i can see is,just a batch of people looking for a reason to bash Neo Tokyo,sincerely,if you want to make it look like a bad town,use another reason,because this one doesn't make sense.
Plus,crouching after each attack,or walking to the opposite side of the boss is really that hard?
Then,JMS players must be a lot pro,because the thing that happens most is that they kill bosses from there without even getting hit.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - MetaSeraphim - 2009-09-18
Kirov Wrote:Oh I’ve changed my mind, I don't want NT in global, I can see it now all these threads about the 10 Att earnings that won't exist.
It was a glitch, it was supposed to be Magic Attack. They have long since fixed it though.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Stereo - 2009-09-18
SoupySoupy Wrote:Are they HP washed or not? Because 24k damage is crazy, and it looks like some of the other mobs deal over what even a level 200 thief/ bowman could take with HB if they haven't washed.
24k is above the threshold of even what a level 200 warrior with HB can survive if they haven't washed. It's not like ranged classes are the only ones losing out.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - Combattente - 2009-09-18
Erich Wrote:You realize there are ranged classes in almost all of the aufheben videos? Quite a few BMs also. And aufheben isn't part of the main neo tokyo hub: we can baw about that later. Point is: sure the damage could be nerfed by 1k all around, but it's near fine as it is. Level up 10 times and try again later. I just hate the fact you are going to RUIN it for global, since nexon MIGHT listen to you.
You do realize that they probably are HP washed like HELL? Probably since level 10, or something, because, as I said before, it's IMPOSSIBLE for a normal non-HP washed bowman to survive that damage.
I hope NEXON actually IS going to listen to me, and I'm posting this on their forums also, so that the chances of that raise even more. I wouldn't stand getting an area with monsters / bosses that I know for a fact I won't be able to take down even at level 200 without spending at least $700 (if not more) HP washing.
Broken.
SoupySoupy Wrote:Are they HP washed or not? Because 24k damage is crazy, and it looks like some of the other mobs deal over what even a level 200 thief/ bowman could take with HB if they haven't washed.
They most likely are. It's impossible to survive 24k damage without HP wash.
SoupySoupy Wrote:A challenge is one thing, but, pouring real money into the game for high HP =/= a challenge.
SoupySoupy Wrote:[SIZE="5"]pouring real money into the game for high HP =/= a challenge.[/SIZE]
SoupySoupy Wrote:[SIZE="7"]real money into the game for high HP =/= a challenge.[/SIZE]
This.
byakugan Wrote:Oh well, In my opinion, as long as you have to HP wash to be able to explore and enjoy some thing in MS, it is wrong. If it is necessary to HP wash in other to be able to enjoy Neo Tokio, it should be changed to eliminate said requirement
Absolutely agree'd. Even Pink Bean deals too much damage for a normal non-HP ranged class to survive. Another boss I don't really like, but whatever. If it's just ONE boss, I might accept it, but when a new area with 10 bosses which have that "problem" get released, I can't really stand that.
Maple SEA Gets neo tokyo - aslemn - 2009-09-18
If you guys knew what's the strategy used for Aufheven...
You need a viper to push her to the wall,THERE ARE LOADS OF RANGED JOBS IN AUFHEVEN Jms runs,i can clearly say this,because since i play in Kaede,there's like 2 or 3 squads per day of a weekend.
Then,explain me,getting hit by a 3800 Oblivion monster,with this you don't need to wash,but getting hit by a 3800 damage Android from Neo Tokyo makes you NEED TO HP wash?hmph,you guys don't know what you're talking about.