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The LoL Patches thread - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-08-27
KajitiSouls Wrote:The real reason why they are considered really strong: a combination of escapability and burst to win the early game and come out on top. Why aren't Tristana and Caitlyn in consideration? Caitlyn doesn't really have the burst levels the ADC trinity have (and somewhat poor late game), and Tristana's escape is for one or the other purpose (and it has a bad delay too).
Ezreal and, to a less extent, Graves don't have as much carry potential as some other ADCs. But that doesn't stop them from facerolling people late game.
Late game I think those 3 excel the most because they can reposition themselves the best which is absolutely key in competitive play. All that damage doesn't help if you get caught out of position and die.
The LoL Patches thread - Derosis - 2012-08-27
Hoping for Support buffs in Pre-Season 3.
The LoL Patches thread - Jamesie - 2012-08-27
Derosis Wrote:Hoping for Support buffs in Pre-Season 3.Don't hold your breath.
[MENTION=139]Kaasoljoyyx[/MENTION]; Burst, escape/re-position, and poke is what keeps them on top. Graves is one of the top ADCs right now because he's probably the best early-to-mid carry. Late-game he falls off hard compared to say Kog or Trist, but his early and mid is just ridiculous compared to other carries (also why Cait is a less common pick since she shines at the same time as Graves, but he does it better).
The LoL Patches thread - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-08-27
Jamesie Wrote:Don't hold your breath.
[MENTION=139]Kaasoljoyyx[/MENTION]; Burst, escape/re-position, and poke is what keeps them on top. Graves is one of the top ADCs right now because he's probably the best early-to-mid carry. Late-game he falls off hard compared to say Kog or Trist, but his early and mid is just ridiculous compared to other carries (also why Cait is a less common pick since she shines at the same time as Graves, but he does it better).
In my opinion:
With the meta slowly moving towards a more aggressive early game and taking objectives early and snowballing fast (Azubublaze from korea, TSM slowly adapting it from what I've seen), champs such as caitlyn and MF could make a comeback. Even sivir as well. Late game champs such as vayne got shut down in MLG summer arena because the enemy team moved the game so fast that it did not allow vayne the time to farm and reach late game status.
I don't like how I always see ezreal/graves/corki in tourney play but those 3 are what excel the most in our current meta. Since riot doesn't make champs that cater to the meta, I don't think they'll rework any of the old champs too heavily besides increasing/decreasing stats/CDs. If anything they'll probably change some major aspect that makes almost all ADCs viable in some way again.
And L>support bufs too :x Or supporting slightly more interactive instead of babysitting mostly
The LoL Patches thread - Duelman - 2012-08-27
Speaking of azubu blaze... they ran a flippin support jayce earlier and wrecked pretty good in lane using him.
The LoL Patches thread - Jamesie - 2012-08-27
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:In my opinion:MF won't be making a comeback any time soon in an aggressive support meta since she's a passive laner like Ashe. Cait could potentially make a comeback since she has traps and does have a solid early and mid-game, but MF won't be coming back since she has such a terrible aggressive kit.
With the meta slowly moving towards a more aggressive early game and taking objectives early and snowballing fast (Azubublaze from korea, TSM slowly adapting it from what I've seen), champs such as caitlyn and MF could make a comeback. Even sivir as well. Late game champs such as vayne got shut down in MLG summer arena because the enemy team moved the game so fast that it did not allow vayne the time to farm and reach late game status.
I don't like how I always see ezreal/graves/corki in tourney play but those 3 are what excel the most in our current meta. Since riot doesn't make champs that cater to the meta, I don't think they'll rework any of the old champs too heavily besides increasing/decreasing stats/CDs. If anything they'll probably change some major aspect that makes almost all ADCs viable in some way again.
I don't think there's ever been a time where all ADCs have been viable though. As far as I can remember, there's always been a couple that just do everything better. (Ashe was OP because of all that utility anyone?)
The LoL Patches thread - Derosis - 2012-08-27
Jamesie Wrote:Don't hold your breath.
You as well.
The LoL Patches thread - Jamesie - 2012-08-27
Derosis Wrote:You as well.Too bad the last change to supports they made so that bot would be a more active lane rather than a farm fest. :/
The LoL Patches thread - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-08-27
Jamesie Wrote:MF won't be making a comeback any time soon in an aggressive support meta since she's a passive laner like Ashe.
MF + Janna? Unless the enemy is a kill lane as well, MF lanes should try and push hard on any passive laners e.g. ashe. The early game damage she has is really strong and her Q can chunk hard if used correctly.
The LoL Patches thread - Derosis - 2012-08-27
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:MF + Janna? Unless the enemy is a kill lane as well, MF lanes should try and push hard on any passive laners e.g. ashe. The early game damage she has is really strong and her Q can chunk hard if used correctly.
Nunu + MF is op as well. I can attest to this.
The LoL Patches thread - Razmos - 2012-08-28
![[Image: Ziggs_Splash_3.jpg]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zXWbmCGcaeM/UDxBT6YgzCI/AAAAAAAAEMA/wJPsoV_qQ2M/s1600/Ziggs_Splash_3.jpg)
We need these skins. All of them. (Yes, even swimsuit Garen, Darius and Xin
)Is Swimsuit Xin wielding a parasol?
The LoL Patches thread - Loose - 2012-08-28
It sure looks like it. And who's that on the right, cleaning the pool?
The LoL Patches thread - Razmos - 2012-08-28
Loose Wrote:It sure looks like it. And who's that on the right, cleaning the pool?Yorick, I think. Not sure who else it could be.
The LoL Patches thread - Olsi - 2012-08-28
Swimsuit ahri and riven...
The LoL Patches thread - Jamesie - 2012-08-28
Pool-cleaner Yorick pls
The LoL Patches thread - Derosis - 2012-08-28
Astro Nautilus
![[Image: lZORjh.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/lZORjh.jpg)
Arcade Sona
![[Image: KJdBmh.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/KJdBmh.jpg)
Pool Party Ziggs
![[Image: ha3WNh.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/ha3WNh.jpg)
I WANT THEM ALL!
The LoL Patches thread - Raph589 - 2012-08-28
Sona's chest shrunked on this skin, it seems.
The LoL Patches thread - Derosis - 2012-08-28
Raph589 Wrote:Sona's chest shrunked on this skin, it seems.
It's fine, the inner fighter in me is squirming.
The LoL Patches thread - Jamesie - 2012-08-29
Raph589 Wrote:Sona's chest shrunked on this skin, it seems.I always thought it was an awkward angle, because to me her boobs always looked so saggy and ew.
The LoL Patches thread - Five Second Pose - 2012-08-29
Jamesie Wrote:I don't think there's ever been a time where all ADCs have been viable though. As far as I can remember, there's always been a couple that just do everything better. (Ashe was OP because of all that utility anyone?)
Last year at Dreamhack I'm pretty sure all AD carries were used since at that time Graves didn't exist and Sivir was barely considered a champion.