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Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-19
TheBirds Wrote:because fano was ranting and raving about it before he died, could just be trying to misled us though
note the lack of an actual death notice
Ah, yeah I noticed that, though I was questioning the way you said it more than anything. Probably a mistype on your behalf then
And yeah, I noticed that with my edit. Thanks for pointing it out though.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - VerrKol - 2014-07-19
Funny Vlad still refuses to mention what exactly is occurring. I assume my vote is now for myself, but there shouldn't be any other infected... right? I'm going to be very annoyed if I get stealth lynched.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - TheBirds - 2014-07-19
Kyrastri Wrote:Probably a mistype on your behalf thenmore like i didn't care enough to phase it "properly"
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-19
TheBirds Wrote:more like i didn't care enough to phase it "properly"
That's fine, we've got it clear now anyway.
[MENTION=8732]VerrKol[/MENTION]; I thought it was a trade of all the votes he would have amassed so far (Yours and his own) to one person in exchange for his life, unless you were told something differently in the PM when he infected you.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - VerrKol - 2014-07-19
Kyrastri Wrote:That's fine, we've got it clear now anyway.
VerrKol; I thought it was a trade of all the votes he would have amassed so far (Yours and his own) to one person in exchange for his life, unless you were told something differently in the PM when he infected you.
Just because he said it doesn't make it true, but yes that's what he claimed. It's still theoretically possible for someone else to be infected (who did he hit night 2?). I'd hope they would have spoken up by now, but it's hard to be sure of anything with this many neutrals in play.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-19
VerrKol Wrote:Just because he said it doesn't make it true, but yes that's what he claimed. It's still theoretically possible for someone else to be infected (who did he hit night 2?). I'd hope they would have spoken up by now, but it's hard to be sure of anything with this many neutrals in play.
Uh, wait what?
I thought his infecting record was
Night 1: Shidoshi
Night 2: You
Night 3: (attempted) Polantaris
If he lied about his claim, then it's possible he lied about who he infected, but I'm inclined to believe both, really. You revealed the infection on day 3, though so if you were infected night 1 why didn't you say it earlier?
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Polantaris - 2014-07-19
This thread is going to get quiet real fast without Luv ;.;
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Olsi - 2014-07-19
Tbh i dont get the point of your super long post [MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION];. Does it really tell us anything?
I guess luv is dead so now we gotta decide if we are gonna go with verrkol or someone else+reasonings
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-19
Wow, a lot happened while I was asleep
[MENTION=3195]ChaoticCJ[/MENTION]; You seem to be summarizing more and more as the game goes on, which helps people catch up but makes it look like you are trying to avout adding much new,
[MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; You still there buddy? Don't leave me
xBTAx Wrote:At the same time, some of you find yourself agreeing with them despite prior doubt...I wonder if this actually means anything.
Where we are right now, I don't think the mafia would have gone after Luv because, like I said before, he is neutral. Wouldn't they try to kill off the townies faster to win? Also, it looks like the roleblock would not affect day abilities like Kyrastri's, since Luv was roleblocked last night and was still able to activate he voting part.
[MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; wow.... thats a quite a bit right there....
[MENTION=2462]MetaSeraphim[/MENTION]; I may have missed it, but I don'y think you have posted anything much and the day is half over. Want to speak up a bit.
From what I see, ChaoticCJ, CakesXD, and Meta seem the most suspicious. I'm pretty sure Polantaris is townie, not as sure about Verrkol. Cakes roleclaimed out out now where, saying he was trying to protect himself when not too many people were looking at him. To me it seemed like he was trying to escape while all the heat was on Faon. As for MEt, like others said he could be the godfother. He has a post restriction like Mas, but claimed not to have a night ability and has not said much at all. If he was roleblocked, its possible the roleblocker is a townie that was targeting random people because they didn't know who the mafia were. Or it could be like someone said and if the mafia had the roleblocker they didn't use it so it mould make meta look more innocent when he claimed he was roleblocked.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - MetaSeraphim - 2014-07-19
Niernen Wrote:He has a post restriction like Mas, but claimed not to have a night ability
Kyrastri Wrote:Meta's no-power state is indeed suspicious.
Polantaris Wrote:That restriction combined with no power in a power heavy game?
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Holypie Wrote:Wait Meta, someone has your power? Well that's pretty pomegranatety.
LuvDWayULie Wrote:a late ability activation.
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Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-19
MetaSeraphim Wrote:,Is day
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at dentist appointment so I will not be able to respond for an hour or so
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-19
Olsi Wrote:Tbh i dont get the point of your super long post Kyrastri;. Does it really tell us anything?
I guess luv is dead so now we gotta decide if we are gonna go with verrkol or someone else+reasonings
I've removed some of the more irrelevant stuff if that helps (part of it was pretty redundant, I admit), but I don't see how it doesn't so far.
The game theory was something I was thinking of for a while, though I should have posted it before my thoughts flew out the window but still, I wanted to get it out there as a sort of side task (of sorts...). I'm really curious about the game and wtp's been happening at night. If that ends up flooding the thread with needless stuff, that's my bad, but do tell me so I can dump it somewhere else/on someone else.
The vote log was meant to be to help consolidate the situation when it comes to votes thus far; vote counts should be pretty easy to produce using this method when accompanied with the main player list. Or at the very least, it will help me with trying to think of situations that fit what we've seen yet; I post most of this stuff so I'm not pulling any wool when I finally do point a finger with a theory, and so people can point out any inconsistencies with any of my theories/hypotheticals. If it helps you, great. If not, then you can dismiss whatever I've got.
Then the rest was responses/my list of really suss people.
Niernen Wrote:Kyrastri; wow.... thats a quite a bit right there....
sorry if it seems a bit much, Olsi pointed it out too. I'll try and break down my posts a bit more (and remove crap that isn't totally relevant if it bloats the post too much); I know I can get pretty wordy when it comes to pomegranate like this.
(and in my defense most of the words comes with the vote log
)
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Polantaris - 2014-07-19
Niernen Wrote:Is day 5. Most abilities like that active by day 3. And you still have not posted about anything but yourself. I haven't noticed much +/-1 either. I don't get how you have gotten away with posting nothing except excuses at this point.
[vote]MetaSeraphim;
at dentist appointment so I will not be able to respond for an hour or so
It's actually only Day 4, but that doesn't change your point considering it still should have activated by now.
I distinctly remember pushing for a vote on Meta during Day 2 and being, for the most part, ignored.
Still, since someone else is finally on board,
Only reason I didn't start off the day with it is because I expected to be ignored again. I figured if me bringing it up every other post didn't prompt people to consider it nothing would.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-19
Polantaris Wrote:I distinctly remember pushing for a vote on Meta during Day 2 and being, for the most part, ignored.
Still, since someone else is finally on board, [Vote] MetaSeraphim
Only reason I didn't start off the day with it is because I expected to be ignored again. I figured if me bringing it up every other post didn't prompt people to consider it nothing would.
I think thats probably because of the whole thing with Chaz and I and the forced vote, completely ruined the day like I was afraid it would and ended up wasting a containment. I was not going to vote until I at least gave her a chance to respond, but after seeing her responses I'm surprised she lasted this long honestly. Its been all evasion and no scum hunting.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - TheBirds - 2014-07-19
wow, you guys actually expect her to be able to defend herself and properly scumhunt when she can only quote people? if you had the same role with the same limits can you honestly say you would be able to do any better than she is doing? that is pretty crazy, and since you two just keep going on and on and on about it despite the fact that such a role would be hard to play even for a good player it makes me believe the both of you are the last two mafia members.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-19
TheBirds Wrote:wow, you guys actually expect her to be able to defend herself and properly scumhunt when she can only quote people? if you had the same role with the same limits can you honestly say you would be able to do any better than she is doing?
Yes, but then again I probably have a lot more free time. Her ability does not stop her from scum hunting, she could quote points people have made together to further support or expand on them, or quote contradictions people have posted to call them out. At the very least, she could +/-1 posts like Mas did. Haven't seen her do much at all. Yes, I called her out before and she said her restriction was hard, but after that what has she really posted? She keeps using others to defend her. I do get it is hard, but 1, maybe 2 posts a day? Really? And she basically said she had a day ability before, but we have seen nothing of it yet. Her restriction would naturally bring suspicion on her, so I highly doubt she would have to wait more than 3 days/nights to use it. I don't expect her to defend herself perfectly, but I do expect her to do something. Half the time she only posts in response to someone calling her out, then goes silent again.
And I have not been going on about it. I dropped it after day 2, but there is not much else to go on today. Cakes has not posted much either, and I'm pretty sure I already posted what I thought about the others.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - TheBirds - 2014-07-19
Niernen Wrote:And she basically said she had a day ability beforeyou need to find where she said that and post it, plus she maybe protecting what her power actually is, and weren't you the one who told everyone to not let anyone know about their power? and yet here you are getting meta a hard time because she has hardly talked about her power at all? someone is a little flippy-floppy eh? obviously it seems i am on the right track with the mafia being able to know people's powers some how and apparently meta's power is just as threatening as meow's and the mafia is trying to pick off meta today and kill meow tonight so they won't have any worries
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-19
TheBirds Wrote:you need to find where she said that and post it, plus she maybe protecting what her power actually is, and weren't you the one who told everyone to not let anyone know about their power? and yet here you are getting meta a hard time because she has hardly talked about her power at all? someone is a little flippy-floppy eh? obviously it seems i am on the right track with the mafia being able to know people's powers some how and apparently meta's power is just as threatening as meow's and the mafia is trying to pick off meta today and kill meow tonight so they won't have any worries
Meta said she had no night action.
Ironic that you would forget, since you were the one that pretty much said no night action does not mean no power. I'm not asking her to reveal her ability, but most day abilities seem to have been made public in some form or another. Its been 4.5 days, nothing at all. If she had a town helping power and had some results wouldn't she use those to help the town? Why are you defending her so hard yourself?
If Meta has anything convincing, sure, I'll remove my vote at that time, but not until then.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-19
TheBirds Wrote:you need to find where she said that and post it, plus she maybe protecting what her power actually is, and weren't you the one who told everyone to not let anyone know about their power? and yet here you are getting meta a hard time because she has hardly talked about her power at all? someone is a little flippy-floppy eh? obviously it seems i am on the right track with the mafia being able to know people's powers some how and apparently meta's power is just as threatening as meow's and the mafia is trying to pick off meta today and kill meow tonight so they won't have any worries
[MENTION=10201]Niernen[/MENTION]; She never claimed to have a day ability, she said she had no night ability. TheBirds proposed that it may imply that she had a day power, but I don't think there was a confirmation (I didn't read one when I was reading through the thread for votes). edit: nvm, you know
At this point, I think it's safe to say that we may need to reveal properly, since the mafia has not reduced nearly as much as the townies have, and they definitely know what they're doing by neutralising threats. Leaving everyone else (i.e: people slow on upkeep, see: me) in the dark during the day when the mafia is now systematically eliminating threats is a dangerous tactic.
However, I can understand if anyone opposes since it gives them that knowledge as well, and can thus pick accordingly. My only defense to that would be that it could potentially turn to a WIFOM, though our doctor is dead and I don't know whether town also has something that busses/commutes/otherwise protects a player...
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - TheBirds - 2014-07-19
Niernen Wrote:Meta said she had no night action.no night action at the time she was roleblocked one can assume since she has said her power was stolen and it would turn on later