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Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CrazyForDex - 2011-11-02
Lozmaster Wrote:I think it's probably a dun goofed by whichever of Kishimotos underlings drew that last page, the rest of the recent chapters seem to stick with the "no more left arm" theory.
You really think they would goof on something that critical to the Raikage's character?
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Lozmaster - 2011-11-02
CrazyForDex Wrote:You really think they would goof on something that critical to the Raikage's character?
Yes.
In one piece, they managed to get which eye zoro was blind in wrong in a few of his after-timeskip appearance. This, just like that, is a drawing goof that will get fixed when it comes round to the tankobon release.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CrazyForDex - 2011-11-02
Lozmaster Wrote:Yes.
In one piece, they managed to get which eye zoro was blind in wrong in a few of his after-timeskip appearance. This, just like that, is a drawing goof that will get fixed when it comes round to the tankobon release.
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Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CommanderJinn - 2011-11-02
It happens all the time. Small mistakes like these aren't uncommon, considering that they have to push out a new chapter every week.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - byakugan - 2011-11-02
CrazyForDex Wrote:Umm as I recall, the tele jutsu was supposed to rip her skin apart so I think it was pretty necessary for her to save her skin (pun intended) and use her regen technique as Gaara, Naruto, old-kage, etc were about to get their pomegranate wrecked.
By her not needing to get hurt I was refering to that she could have used the flying thunder god technique. The three Jounin didn't mention any limitation on the number of times they can use the technique, they could have picked Tsunade up along with the Mizukage and then taken them both to the battlefield. Instead she said "nahhh, I wanna try to look cool for once". But you know what old lady? win a freaking fight against someone with a higher rank than Jounin and then we can talk
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Takebacker - 2011-11-02
Even if she had to use her gem to heal herself, she can still heal through her summon and the normal way. Though she's the hokage so she probably has some healing method more advanced than just putting her palms to your chest. Once madara goes down she's gotta heal naruto else i don't know how this war can progress smoothly with him being drained and X paths of pain left to be killed.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-11-02
There's no way madara is getting sealed now. Okay we now have a few major players on the battlefield.
Madara
Five kages
Tobi and paths of pain
Bee and naruto
Sasuke
Kabuto
Itachi
For some reason people think bee is gonna handle tobi and the pains so that naruto can fight sasuke, but those pains are way too fucking much for that. They need to team up for that fight.
I also think itachi will see sasuke but lose to kabuto and sasuke fights kabuto. The reason being even though itachi genjutsued and took over control of edo tensei, can't kabuto just drop it? And sasuke seeing this will get pissed off and kill kabuto.
These five kages...It never crossed my mind that they'd be able to finish madara right there in this battle, I figure he'd have a bigger role, but I guess you guys are right.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Takebacker - 2011-11-02
Why wouldn't madara be finished off? I mean sure it's going to take a while for him to die/be sealed but i don't see any grand purpose in him being alive. Most of his purpose probably comes from him existing, because we doubt tobi being madara.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CrazyForDex - 2011-11-02
Idk, I can see Madara being taken out soon, considering all 5 kages are now set on kicking his ass and Mu-sama (can't remember his other/official name) has been split and can't use many techniques. Also I can see Itachi fighting Kabuto and getting him to end the Edo-Tensi sooner or later, but I can't see him meeting Sasuke. That would completely mess up the direction this manga is going because Itachi is the only person (besides possibly Naruto) who could potentially un-brainwash Sasuke and ease the hatred in his heart.
Either way, I'm pretty sure that those shinobi who used the Flying Thunder-God technique have to be near the person they are transporting, considering they all stood so close to the Mizukage and even appologized for being so close to her. Clearly Tsunade and Raikage needed to get to the battlefield ASAP and did what they had to do to get there. If this is the time for Tsunade to die, then I assume Kishi will allow her to do something badass before she goes, such as possibly contributing to messing up Madara and healing Naruto (which clearly needs to be done). Once Madara is sealed (God knows how it will happen) then we can actually get to the Tobi-5 paths-Sasuke situation and the pomegranate can really hit the fan. Although I am kinda expecting Tobi to intervene before Madara gets sealed as if all of Tobi's plans get screwed up by Itachi and the kages, this arc is going to end really fast.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - SolicShooter - 2011-11-03
CrazyForDex Wrote:Idk, I can see Madara being taken out soon, considering all 5 kages are now set on kicking his ass and Mu-sama (can't remember his other/official name) has been split and can't use many techniques. Also I can see Itachi fighting Kabuto and getting him to end the Edo-Tensi sooner or later, but I can't see him meeting Sasuke. That would completely mess up the direction this manga is going because Itachi is the only person (besides possibly Naruto) who could potentially un-brainwash Sasuke and ease the hatred in his heart.
Either way, I'm pretty sure that those shinobi who used the Flying Thunder-God technique have to be near the person they are transporting, considering they all stood so close to the Mizukage and even appologized for being so close to her. Clearly Tsunade and Raikage needed to get to the battlefield ASAP and did what they had to do to get there. If this is the time for Tsunade to die, then I assume Kishi will allow her to do something badass before she goes, such as possibly contributing to messing up Madara and healing Naruto (which clearly needs to be done). Once Madara is sealed (God knows how it will happen) then we can actually get to the Tobi-5 paths-Sasuke situation and the pomegranate can really hit the fan. Although I am kinda expecting Tobi to intervene before Madara gets sealed as if all of Tobi's plans get screwed up by Itachi and the kages, this arc is going to end really fast.
You misunderstand. Genma and such could teleported themselves to HQ and then teleport Raikage and Tsunade to the battlefield. Having to be close is no hindrance for people that can teleport, aside from a bit of extra chakra consumption, but it doesn't seem to strain them that much, or Minato for that matter.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CrazyForDex - 2011-11-03
Well we also don't know how often they can use this technique or how much chakra it consumes. I guess I missed the point that they could have teleported to the main hq, but there has to be some reason why Tsunade and Raikage came to the battlefield the way they did, rather than just using those flash-god-technique guys.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Worthyness - 2011-11-03
didn't they say tsunade had the marker for thunder god? And if they only had 1 team able to execute, then it makes sense to get raikage and hokage by tele no jutsu first and then be able to tele mizukage. I assume since it takes 3 of them to preform one tele, it would take a ridiculous amount of chakra and stamina from all 3 to stablize it and I assume then that it means that they'd only be able to preform a couple per round otherwise they'd KTFO by overuse. This would imply that 4th hokage was a goddamned scary Mofo.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - MetaSeraphim - 2011-11-03
Worthyness Wrote:This would imply that 4th hokage was a goddamned scary Mofo.
From what the manga has given us, he was. And so humble and awesome at the same time.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CrazyForDex - 2011-11-03
MetaSeraphim Wrote:From what the manga has given us, he was. And so humble and awesome at the same time.
4th Hokage for President! oh wait...
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-11-03
I don't think Minato was at ridiculously OP as he's made out to be. He was really smart and talented, but he wasn't the monster some of these people are. Like, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, 3rd Raikage Madara, Hashirama, all of them had strong abilities and pomegranate that made them so strong.
Minato? He's more on Itachi's level, they use their cunning and obviously very great techniques to succeed.
I'm sorry, I know Minato is really REALLY great but it seems different because he's just smart and has a strong technique he invented (Flying Thunder God technique and Rasengan). It's a different thing than..Others. But I suppose things are just relative to each other (i.e. Itachi is scared of Jiraiya, Jiraiya seems to be weak to Orochimaru, but Itachi rapes the pineapple out of Orochimaru. (although tbh I think Jiraiya is still stronger than orochimaru, but he just SEEMS weaker)).
Sorry am just rambling.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CrazyForDex - 2011-11-03
@ above, when was Itachi afraid of Jiraiya? You are putting Itachi and Minato on a level below Orochimaru and the 3rd Raikage? I don't understand how you determine who belongs where on your list, but I disagree.
Itachi- absolute beast Uchiha with mangeko sharingan. Very skilled at genjutsu and many other things.
Minato- 4th hokage, mastered thunder god techniques and rasengan and basically kicked Tobi's ass in that fight they had. Unfortunately, he had to seal himself with the nine-tails to save Konoha.
I guess I can see that they are different than the Raikage and Hashirama and such, but they are still extremely powerful and would definitely give any of your examples a run for their money.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-11-03
Eh. I'll just say http://www.mangareader.net/93-149-9/naruto/chapter-144.html
That translation fucking sucks but they were reluctant to fight jiraiya and I remember itachi saying they would at least injury each other badly if they don't kill themselves WITH itachi and kisame v. Jiraiya.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CrazyForDex - 2011-11-03
Idk, I didn't really get a sense of reluctance from that page, but instead got more of a sense of caution. Seems to me that they were just being cautious because Jiraiya was strong o.o
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CommanderJinn - 2011-11-03
Minato was scarily strong. During that page, neither Itachi, nor Kisame knew about Sage mode. Very few people do, besides the toads, Naruto, Jiraya, and Minato.
Anyways, Minato pretty much single handedly stopped the 9tails when every single other able elite ninja in the village wasn't able to do anything. That's got to say something about how strong he is. Plus, looking at the last chapter, Thunder God must take up a lot of chakra. So that means, for Minato to use it so freely, he had a ton of chakra too. Don't forget that it was Minato who made the rasengan, not Jiraya, as well as the fact that Minato was the only person to hurt Tobi in a straight up fight (I don't count Konan cause she spent years planning that jutsu out).
Plus they chose Minato as the 4th, instead of Orochimaru. If Orochimaru knew he was stronger, he would've just flat out assassinated Minato, after all, he had no problems trying to go out of his way to kill both Jiraya and Tsunade when he lost both of his arms. But the fact that he didn't means that he was genuinely afraid of him, like how he was genuinely afraid of Itachi. If Orochimaru was stronger than Itachi, he would've just tried to steal him away. Instead he went after Sasuke, who he believed was weaker and therefore easier to manipulate (even though, in the end Sasuke managed to overwhelm him as well)
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-11-03
I get your argument but now I'm curious Let me pose some hypothetical fights:
1.Minato vs. 3rd Raikage
2.Minato vs. Itachi
3.Minato vs. Madara (real one)
4.Minato vs. Hashirama
5.Minato vs. 6 paths of Pain Nagato version
6.Itachi vs. Madara (real)
7.Itachi vs. Hashirama
8.Itachi vs. 6 paths of pain nagato version
9.Itachi vs. 3rd Raikage
Just to see where he gauges. Just quote me or something and next to the line type out the name who wins or something
Edit: Oh btw lol I saw pineappleing 5 users and 20 guests staring at this thread before.