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The Inner Ability Thread - xJunkun - 2014-07-01
i farmed about 88 crics on my newly made NL
used 22 landed 15% critical and just kept it at that
The Inner Ability Thread - GunPowder - 2014-07-01
ChickenKiev Wrote:I just bought 14k NX worth of NX circulators, trying to upgrade from unique to legendary. No dice. So I'll try it using the honor points, which I assume will mean that it has an opportunity to go back to Epic. I'm definitely going to upgrade to legendary, as I tried keeping my rank at unique and kept trying to get a line worth anything to no avail, while wasting ~40k honor points.
I think using NX circs on any tier other than Legendary is a waste.
Resetting your honor only costs 100 honor points, which isn't that bad. Locking your Legendary tier costs 10,000 points, which is where things get ugly.
The Inner Ability Thread - Grey - 2014-07-01
GunPowder Wrote:I think using NX circs on any tier other than Legendary is a waste.
Resetting your honor only costs 100 honor points, which isn't that bad. Locking your Legendary tier costs 10,000 points, which is where things get ugly.
I don't agree, I mean, using the standard reset to get to Legendary wastes quite a bit of honor. You need thousands of medals just to get enough to lock rank, and that doesn't even begin to cover the costs of locking lines.
Also, has anyone else noticed that circulators (in-game, at least) follow the rules of abilities from prior to the revamp (so, no variance in the values for a given line)?
The Inner Ability Thread - GunPowder - 2014-07-01
Grey Wrote:I don't agree, I mean, using the standard reset to get to Legendary wastes quite a bit of honor. You need thousands of medals just to get enough to lock rank, and that doesn't even begin to cover the costs of locking lines.The amount of effort needed for 2/3 good lines @ Legendary tier is just not worth it. The first line is pretty much the only line that really matters.
Also, has anyone else noticed that circulators (in-game, at least) follow the rules of abilities from prior to the revamp (so, no variance in the values for a given line)?
Even if you have 80k unused points at Legendary, you're not going to be able to reset that many times when each reset costs 13k with a line locked.
Personally, I'm going to focus on getting one good Legendary line, and then wait for the Azwan revamp / lock line + reset every now and then when I have enough points.
The Inner Ability Thread - Takebacker - 2014-07-01
GunPowder Wrote:The amount of effort needed for 2/3 good lines @ Legendary tier is just not worth it. The first line is pretty much the only line that really matters.
Even if you have 80k unused points at Legendary, you're not going to be able to reset that many times when each reset costs 13k with a line locked.
Personally, I'm going to focus on getting one good Legendary line, and then wait for the Azwan revamp / lock line + reset every now and then when I have enough points.
It takes no effort. Majority of the time there are events for farming at evo that people are doing, leaves, boxes, whatever. Even if there isn't there are really good reasons to farm evo. Green4ever says a lot of his income comes from farming evo. You get AEEs from coins, or shoulders, etc. It only took me 2 rounds of 2x card+pig+greedpend+cores to get 6.6k medals, which is ~40k honor. Bossing every day gets me a bit shy of 1k points. If i had any sort of good drop rate gear set up it would be a lot higher.
If you don't have legendary, that's really unfortunate, but getting to legendary has been a b'itch ever since the last IA revamp. Now it's slightly easier to get there, and when you're there you have all the time in the world to get good lines. If you focus on nothing but good lines and "omg the cost is so high" then you aren't going to get far but if you kill more than one bird with a stone then it becomes a lot easier than what people say. Of course if you're impatient that's another story.
The Inner Ability Thread - Green4Ever - 2014-07-01
Takebacker Wrote:Green4ever says a lot of his income comes from farming evo.
Not so much anymore. Shoulder prices have plummeted over the past few months due to low demand and high competition/supply. I've mostly given up on it and just keep cores on hand for 2x events. But yeah your point is still completely valid. People seem to have this mindset that they need to be able to reset their Inner Ability and get the lines they want within a day, which is just absurd.
The Inner Ability Thread - Takebacker - 2014-07-01
Green4Ever Wrote:Not so much anymore. Shoulder prices have plummeted over the past few months due to low demand and high competition/supply. I've mostly given up on it and just keep cores on hand for 2x events. But yeah your point is still completely valid. People seem to have this mindset that they need to be able to reset their Inner Ability and get the lines they want within a day, which is just absurd.
Yeah i know. The post i had in mind you were saying that most of your income came from evo. You weren't doing cvellum has hard or as successfully as you are now, so i figured there's no way this was still true. Regardless to bring up the point that one of SP's most successful players farmed evo for significant money, where medals can also be farmed more than they can in any other area of the game, makes the effort of going out of your way to farm nothing but medals when you should be farming more than just that much more enticing.
The Inner Ability Thread - ScherzoDeLuce - 2014-07-01
is 30 atk for 1st line good enough? got crappy stuff for 2nd and 3rd line. legendary tier btw.
im a DA, was aiming for atk speed or boss dmg, need opinions on whether i should reset or not.
and im from SEA btw, so no locking stuff yet..
The Inner Ability Thread - Green4Ever - 2014-07-01
ScherzoDeLuce Wrote:is 30 atk for 1st line good enough? got crappy stuff for 2nd and 3rd line. legendary tier btw.
im a DA, was aiming for atk speed or boss dmg, need opinions on whether i should reset or not.
and im from SEA btw, so no locking stuff yet..
30 att is a lot less effective than the big 3 (buff duration, boss damage, attack speed). I'd say keep going but it also depends on how much you have to work with. I can say from experience that Circulators are extremely unforgiving.
The Inner Ability Thread - Even - 2014-07-01
If Im not mistaken there should be a 20% HP line on legendary too, not sure how good that would be for DA compared to the 3 mentioned above but its probably way better than 30 w.att (as that w.att is uneffected by % w.att at all)
The Inner Ability Thread - Takebacker - 2014-07-01
Even Wrote:If Im not mistaken there should be a 20% HP line on legendary too, not sure how good that would be for DA compared to the 3 mentioned above but its probably way better than 30 w.att (as that w.att is uneffected by % w.att at all)
Given there's at least like 150-180% worth of free %hp boosts, plus potential and whatnot, i don't think 20% HP on an IA line would perform better than att speed or boss damage or even +30 att.
The Inner Ability Thread - Even - 2014-07-01
Takebacker Wrote:Given there's at least like 150-180% worth of free %hp boosts, plus potential and whatnot, i don't think 20% HP on an IA line would perform better than att speed or boss damage or even +30 att.
Attack speed is garbage on a DA tho, (outside of gms) mpe potion is enough.
The Inner Ability Thread - Takebacker - 2014-07-01
Even Wrote:Attack speed is garbage on a DA tho, (outside of gms) mpe potion is enough.
And this is why there are more than one "best option"
The Inner Ability Thread - xlxlxlxl - 2014-07-01
ShinkuDragon Wrote:i'm curious about something though, supposedly the first line determines the rank.Does this only work at legendary? I haven't been able to do this on lower tiers.
what happens if you get legendary and lock the line, since the first line moves to the next spot, is the new line now legendary?
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I wonder if this is the new max for Unique Crit rate.
The Inner Ability Thread - ShinkuDragon - 2014-07-01
xlxlxlxl Wrote:Does this only work at legendary? I haven't been able to do this on lower tiers.
I wonder if this is the new max for Unique Crit rate.
wouldn't surprise me actually, 30% is the max. but what exactly isn't working?
The Inner Ability Thread - xlxlxlxl - 2014-07-01
I'm probably doing it wrong, but I couldn't get the top line to become the middle line as you described. I've tried locking the rank and locking the rank and line and I couldn't get to work. I got another mule to legendary to test, but I could only afford 1 reset with locking
The Inner Ability Thread - Grey - 2014-07-01
xlxlxlxl Wrote:I'm probably doing it wrong, but I couldn't get the top line to become the middle line as you described. I've tried locking the rank and locking the rank and line and I couldn't get to work. I got another mule to legendary to test, but I could only afford 1 reset with locking
It just randomly happens sometimes. I first noticed it locking unique lines on my Xenon.
The Inner Ability Thread - xlxlxlxl - 2014-07-01
So I lock the first line, reset, and hope it randomly moves down then? I'm gonna have to give this a try and see if this happens at a decent rate.
The Inner Ability Thread - ShinkuDragon - 2014-07-01
Grey Wrote:It just randomly happens sometimes. I first noticed it locking unique lines on my Xenon.
xlxlxlxl Wrote:So I lock the first line, reset, and hope it randomly moves down then? I'm gonna have to give this a try and see if this happens at a decent rate.
oh if it happens randomly i wouldn't know, i locked two lines and on the first try it the first line moved down
The Inner Ability Thread - Grey - 2014-07-01
I would wager that the chance of it moving down is related to the chance of ranking up, by which I mean, the line only moves down because one of the other lines was reset into one that fit the current rank, and was able to occupy the first line instead of the locked one.