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Ask a Bowman Thread. - Fumni - 2009-04-30
Cyanne has proven herself to be a diehard "Arrow Eruption then train at typhons right away" build. I personally hated trying to get to that Typhon map, since I have to get past the jump quest every time, and I rather get doored to crimsonwood keep and train at tornado corridor and not deal with the hassle.
But yeah, typhons are just as fast once you get enough arrow eruption. I personally got strafe to 20 and started putting points in arrow eruptions with no regrets. Frankly though, all I do is wander around nowadays lol.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - Silverwind - 2009-05-01
[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]I was planning on going eruption first anyways , I was just looking for third opinions (guildies were telling me not to, telling me to go to newties and such...) I plan to do AR first anyways, as getting up shouldn't be too much of a problem for me (Even if they don't fix the darn Masteria quests so I can get Forest map + Mark of Heroism)
Thanks for the help guys~
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Ask a Bowman Thread. - IsaacGS - 2009-05-05
not sure what I should do for my skills. Next level I'll have 18 SE, 1 Hurricane and 1 bow expert. Should I try to get SE30 to work, or start putting some points into other skills?
Ask a Bowman Thread. - ItachiPower - 2009-05-05
Try getting your Hurricane to at least Lv5 or 10. Then, max SE.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - FelixTM - 2009-05-05
IsaacGS Wrote:not sure what I should do for my skills. Next level I'll have 18 SE, 1 Hurricane and 1 bow expert. Should I try to get SE30 to work, or start putting some points into other skills?
People are gonna give you different opinions, especially if it comes to wanting the most beneficial to your damage increases (seen lots of debate over that).
Personally, I got SE to 10, then BE to 9 and then Hurricane to 11. This was influenced by how hard it used to be to get SE20, but yeah. If I could have done it without worrying about books, I would have gotten SE to 30 first. Back then I was the main Bowman for a popular Zak group, so it was vital. I also play around with friends a lot, and I like having maxed SE for them. I realize it's not the most bang-for-your-buck first skill to max, though.
If you're not partying very much, I would go for some BE and Hurricane before maxing SE.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - IsaacGS - 2009-05-05
FelixTM Wrote:People are gonna give you different opinions, especially if it comes to wanting the most beneficial to your damage increases (seen lots of debate over that).I've mostly been running around solo lately (though CKPQs and such are becoming more common) so I think I'll probably work on the other skills then. Wanna get at least 130 by the time Time Temple is out so I can start all the quests.
Personally, I got SE to 10, then BE to 9 and then Hurricane to 11. This was influenced by how hard it used to be to get SE20, but yeah. If I could have done it without worrying about books, I would have gotten SE to 30 first. Back then I was the main Bowman for a popular Zak group, so it was vital. I also play around with friends a lot, and I like having maxed SE for them. I realize it's not the most bang-for-your-buck first skill to max, though.
If you're not partying very much, I would go for some BE and Hurricane before maxing SE.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - Cyanne - 2009-05-05
The usefulness of bow expertise depends on your stats, so it would be nice to have them. Sharp eyes and hurricane are multipliers over everything, so percentage-wise, they have the same effect on your hurricane damage no matter what your stats are.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - WillDaSnail - 2009-05-05
Issac, if possible, just go and try to work up a SE30 book. No matter what, that (and Hurricane) are probably the biggest damage booster skills that'll impact you the most
If you can't obtain a SE30 in the near future, just work on Hurricane for a bit and maybe work at least a Hurricane 20 book in the proccess.
P.S. You probably know this, but having SE30 can make you more of a crucial person in boss runs. xD
Ask a Bowman Thread. - Fumni - 2009-05-06
Max Sharp Eyes. 119 levels without a crucial party skill is solo enough, time to join the fold.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - Dusk - 2009-05-06
I disagree. 9 SE is enough as a self-buff, Hurricane helps your damage a lot more, and SE is only a "crucial" buff for NLs and other low level archers.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - IsaacGS - 2009-05-06
Cyanne Wrote:The usefulness of bow expertise depends on your stats, so it would be nice to have them. Sharp eyes and hurricane are multipliers over everything, so percentage-wise, they have the same effect on your hurricane damage no matter what your stats are.well, my damage range is 1847-3044 unbuffed, don't really know (or care) if that's good. Would hurricane or BE be better?
Ask a Bowman Thread. - Dusk - 2009-05-06
IsaacGS Wrote:well, my damage range is 1847-3044 unbuffed, don't really know (or care) if that's good. Would hurricane or BE be better?
Most likely Hurricane, though it'd be more helpful to have your actual stats rather than your range. I'm
Ask a Bowman Thread. - IsaacGS - 2009-05-06
Dusk Wrote:Most likely Hurricane, though it'd be more helpful to have your actual stats rather than your range. I'mI have a 10 ATT naricain, 15 att SCGs, and atm I'm using a 107 Nisrock, so that's 132 attack. currently at 624 dex with normal equips. I have a hurricane 20 book already, but BE20 seems to be pretty cheap right now so that's not really an issue either.getting numbers that don't make any sense but produce ranges very close.The most important thing is how much weapon attack you have already, since 10 attack makes a bigger difference for someone with 130 attack than someone with 150 attack.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - MoxJr - 2009-05-06
IsaacGS Wrote:I have a 10 ATT naricain, 15 att SCGs, and atm I'm using a 107 Nisrock, so that's 132 attack. currently at 624 dex with normal equips. I have a hurricane 20 book already, but BE20 seems to be pretty cheap right now so that's not really an issue either.
Get your hurricane up to 11, then BE to 20. Then hurricane to 21 and max BE, then come back and max hurricane.
This is assuming you have maxed SE already... if not, max your SE first.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - Dusk - 2009-05-06
IsaacGS Wrote:I have a 10 ATT naricain, 15 att SCGs, and atm I'm using a 107 Nisrock, so that's 132 attack. currently at 624 dex with normal equips. I have a hurricane 20 book already, but BE20 seems to be pretty cheap right now so that's not really an issue either.
Did you forget a PAC or FS or something? :/
[624 dex, 117 str, 136 att] fits your damage range, so I'm going to go with that.
I guess what we're comparing here is [21 Hurricane, 19 SE, 1 BE] and [21 BE, 1 Hurricane, 19 SE]? I'll throw in [29 SE, 11 Hurricane, 1 Boost] as well, I guess.
This is at level 133 with all your gear the same.
Current: [1847~3044]*((51+111.72)%/arrow) = 3979/arrow
Hurricane build: [1955~3229]*((91+114.5)%/arrow) = 5326/arrow
BE build: [2637~3395]*((51+114.5)%/arrow) = 4991/arrow
SE build: [1955~3229]*((71+132)%/arrow) = 5261/arrow
Hurricane gives you slightly more bang for your buck. Balanced SE/Hurricane builds are the best. Definitely get 11 Hurricane or your max SE will be more for NLs than it is for you. At lower levels of Hurricane SE owns BE, at maxed BE is a little better.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - IsaacGS - 2009-05-06
Dusk Wrote:Did you forget a PAC or FS or something? :/yeah I did forget a 4 ATT PAC. XD sorry. Looks like I'll be going with Hurricane for a while. Thnaks guys.
[624 dex, 117 str, 136 att] fits your damage range, so I'm going to go with that.
I guess what we're comparing here is [21 Hurricane, 19 SE, 1 BE] and [21 BE, 1 Hurricane, 19 SE]? I'll throw in [29 SE, 11 Hurricane, 1 Boost] as well, I guess.
This is at level 133 with all your gear the same.
Current: [1847~3044]*((51+111.72)%/arrow) = 3979/arrow
Hurricane build: [1955~3229]*((91+114.5)%/arrow) = 5326/arrow
BE build: [2637~3395]*((51+114.5)%/arrow) = 4991/arrow
SE build: [1955~3229]*((71+132)%/arrow) = 5261/arrow
Hurricane gives you slightly more bang for your buck. Balanced SE/Hurricane builds are the best. Definitely get 11 Hurricane or your max SE will be more for NLs than it is for you. At lower levels of Hurricane SE owns BE, at maxed BE is a little better.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - FantaTwist - 2009-05-06
Level 10-11 Hurricane has an 11% jump, take great advantage of that. Level 16 bow expertise (80% stability) is good for a while.
I would say get 11 Hurricane then 16 expertise, those are my only
's for you.Edit: Oh and level 1 Dragon breath helps a lot too.
Ask a Bowman Thread. - ArbalistMaster - 2009-05-07
I'm at high 14x with 21 pierce and 6 snipe. I was starting on snipe before the marksman power surge ... what would be better? max out pierce or keep going with snipe
Ask a Bowman Thread. - Dusk - 2009-05-07
ArbalistMaster Wrote:I'm at high 14x with 21 pierce and 6 snipe. I was starting on snipe before the marksman power surge ... what would be better? max out pierce or keep going with snipe
Snipe, but keep in mind Snipe still sucks until 21+
Ask a Bowman Thread. - Beaner - 2009-05-07
ArbalistMaster Wrote:I'm at high 14x with 21 pierce and 6 snipe. I was starting on snipe before the marksman power surge ... what would be better? max out pierce or keep going with snipe
lv MW? i would get MW to 19 if you havent yet, i think you dont have it, be self sufficent, snipe is nice for bossing, but not that great for training. get MW then go do snipe to 21, finish up pierce and get snipe to 30. after that i would do DB.