Corn Wrote:Just had an aggravating TWO HOUR game. We just kept on going back and forth...back and forth...this idiot Vlad was calling us noob.....I had the 2nd most kills in our team and least deaths....I had like, all of my end build gear....but damn that Vlad....he killed me, called me noob, I killed him, said "Boom Headshot." Goddammit.

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:I don't know what worries me more, the Rabadon's-stacking Karthus or the Rylai's-stacking Katarina.

KajitiSouls Wrote:Karthus by a long shot.

A word about their items though.... Fully procced Archangel Staves give more AP than a second Rabadon's does (and right around the same for a 20 stack Mejai's), and the passive effect on Rylai's does not stack. If she just wanted AP and HP items, then Rod of Ages would be the better alternative, even if she doesn't benefit from mana.

Corn Wrote:Chalice-Berzerker Greaves (yes Ray, I'm sticking with this =D)

Corn Wrote:Chalice-Berzerker Greaves (yes Ray, I'm sticking with this =D)

KajitiSouls Wrote:Attack speed bonuses scales off of your champion's base attack speed. Beserker Greaves are terribad on champions like Caitlyn because they have low base attack speed, but are viable on other champions whose attack speeds reach 1 or thereabouts at level 18.

Barring that crap, the real reason why attack speed isn't so great is because most of the time if you're engaging someone, you believe you'll win and kill/chase the person out of lane or whatever that person is doing. What ends up happening is that the person you're trying to chase ends up running, and your effective attack speed and thus your effective DPS drops considerably, scaling much more on the difference of movement speed between you and your target. A move speed difference of 5 pretty much means you'll be doing one hit per every 15 seconds, while a move speed difference of 70 will let you have 5 hits per 6 seconds.

Put in a different perspective, it pays to realize that there's no such thing as strafing or moving while attacking with default champion attacks. Hell, there's not very many spells and abilities that let you do that (and the ones that do are instantaneous). You spend about .5 seconds attacking, 3 seconds catching up, and another .5 seconds attacking, etc. All that attack speed you're investing in doesn't work, because you can't possibly attack that person during the time you're trying to catch up to him.

Building attack damage instead of attack speed doesn't solve the problem of needing to catch up to the person, but your effective DPS is higher because you hit harder with your attacks instead of attacking more often. Same thing can be said of critical strike chance (but I'm finding it to be difficult to justify why it's so expensive since this patch, damage point per damage point).



IF YOU GUYS ARE TIRED OF PANTHEON MANDROPPING ON TOP OF YOU WITH NO WARNING, PLEASE HELP OUT RIOT IN THIS THREAD!!!

madanthony Wrote:8 defeats in my last nine games. 4 Lux games, 5 Gragas. The victory was a negative K/D and only two of the defeats saw me with a negative K/D. Soul crushing.

>Pineapple' Wrote:Yeah that's one reason I don't play rammus much anymore.

It's hard to carry with tanks and support.

Best way to carry bad players is by using a really good AD or Ap carry.