4v4 ranked match?! Lolwat?!

Guinsoo Wrote:The main problem with the slow on Lizard is that it means if you get caught by it overextended, you die. A haste will make it so that that man can kill you, not that man's team can kill you (if you get caught).

This is an integral cog in increasing early game activity (knowing you're not GUARANTEED to die if you get caught out of position means you can be more aggressive), making the jungle more accessible to low level summoners, making the jungle less sensitive to counter jungling (right now it's too big of a swing if you get counter jungled, although I will concede this is the weakest point in the system that needs to be solved), allowing more champions to jungle, making Smite less necessary, allowing non-jungle champions to jungle more (in other words allow role flexibility WITHIN a game not just between games), and probably at least half a dozen major goals as well, and for actually increasing skill differentiation within the jungle.

One of my major problems with the jungle right now is that due to the long respawn timers, there actually is little choice for the player - you have a set route and you gank (generally) when your jungle is clear. There are times when you vary this, but for the most part this is what you do. We'd like to make it so that at all given points, junglers have more interesting choices for what they want to do - should I level up, gank, invade, etc? Ideally they'd all be more valuable for actually doing, but have a higher opportunity cost for doing so - in other words they're all good options but you have to pick what would be most advantageous for your team.

I agree that some champions are hit harder by the loss of slow on Lizard than others (Master Yi for example) but in general those champions are the ones that are going to benefit most from the other side of this coin - reducing monster spawns and making so that if you just sit and farm your jungle, you will earn more resources. In general it will work out, and we can tune the cases that don't.

Also, the jungle is hard enough right now such that we have to make champions basically OP to succeed in the jungle - see Warwick, Udyr.

 This clown is a disgrace

KajitiSouls Wrote:

 This clown is a disgrace

Zendaine Wrote:Nexon, you bad and all and imma let you finish, but Riot has the worst server stability of all time.

Zendaine Wrote:Nexon, you bad and all and imma let you finish, but Riot has the worst server stability of all time.

WillDaSnail Wrote:About the red buff revamp - I don't know what Riot is thinking, but you sure that the slow debuff will always kill people 100% of the time? Overextending my ass, that's what you gotta watch your back and know when you're pushing things too far in your lane. >_>

Dark Link Wrote:Notice the timestamp, it's nearly 2 months old. What's even more sad is majority of the posters in that topic and ANOTHER employee 100% agreed with JohnnyUtah.
I remember the LoL forums when that was posted. People were like "Can you imagine if Riot trashtalked like that to us!?" Some people were even trying to provoke Riot into doing it for pomegranates and giggles

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Right now the NA server is taking the stress of three servers since EU's down.

KajitiSouls Wrote:Wait, EU has two servers?