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Why do we play Maplestory? - xparasite9 - 2013-10-07
MariaColette Wrote:The game I once knew and loved is gone because it'd drifted into something different. But as long as it makes money, it works, right?
MariaColette Wrote:But as long as it makes money, it works, right?
Eventually it's going to stop doing that even.
Why do we play Maplestory? - IllegallySane - 2013-10-07
I wonder about this myself when I think back. Heck, any Nexon game in general. Nexon games did a number on my college life thanks to the "free-to-play" model and that addiction of bigger numbers/higher levels/more money. Eff their pay-to-win model at their worst, and their pay-to-have-an-ingame-advantage model at their best. Cash shop should have remained being about aesthetics and non-game affecting features.
When I played Nexon games:
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Why do we play Maplestory? - Seanny - 2013-10-07
I'm pretty sure, honestly, for many of you guys. Its the fact that you've built up so much that stops you from quitting.
To quit would mean giving up the hundreds, or even thousands spent to waste. You're also in the position of being geared enough to participate in X content and feeling it would be a waste of what you have to not continue on and take that chance.
Well when i got hacked in 2009, that spell was pretty much broken for me. I wasn't even that well geared. The most painful part was losing the E-staff that me and 2 of my closest friends worked together with to buy me.
After that I pretty much only thought: "Why should i play a game i can't even be sure what i spend will actually still be there." My spending habits changed dramatically afterwards.
I came back for Big bang and Mercedes for small periods of time, but with nothing major to look forward to endgame wise i just didn't stick around. I also suffer from not being on top of all the information in the game. Knowing all that's going on and the most efficient path to take intuitively makes a huge difference in the enjoyment of the game.
Before i got hacked i was like everyone else, ignoring quests and focusing only on leveling and gearing.Since then i no longer do, when i came back for big bang i ALMOST got into it but now that the roof on such has become SO RIDICULOUS its not worth it. If being endgame geared was only a 100-300$ endeavor i could prolly see it. but its not. It's not worth it to conquer every single thing in the game.
I adapted instead though and when i did come back those couple of times, i was into it for completely different reasons. I really enjoy the atmosphere of Maple. Quests interest me, trying out various PQs and collecting prizes and appreciating the adorable art style and dressing up my characters. (along with headcanons like the dork i am.) I literally only spend my NX on cosmetic stuff on my 'visits'. The stories are actually pretty nice too. Neo City in particular stands out from my time with my Mercedes.
The truth is... there's actually hundreds of hours worth of not endgame content. (actually, im gonna be blunt, it shouldn't be called endgame content, it should be called NX-game content) If you're not after the 'pro player' experience you WILL get a lot out of it. If you find like minded players who aren't after every single bit of damage range and spending / merchanting for literally months on end to achieve it. You might even get to one or 2 of the lower end bosses and have a decent, mass party bossing experience... however this cloud looms over your head; Knowing you'll never get to the top of the current game the way you play, and its pretty demotivating and frustrating to think about. How can anyone truly love a game they know they'll never see everything about?
Why do we play Maplestory? - Christian - 2013-10-07
I recently quit this game, after playing pretty much nonstop since BETA. I have lost complete interest in logging in and leveling a new character for the latest link skill along with having to feel the need to purchase Nx every time as well...seeing as we don't get shared Cash shop options.
GTAV, Pokemon & Zelda WWHD are my focus at the moment.
Quit while you can because this peach will grab you by the balls in hold you tight.
Why do we play Maplestory? - Words - 2013-10-07
Seanny Wrote:I'm pretty sure, honestly, for many of you guys. Its the fact that you've built up so much that stops you from quitting.
To quit would mean giving up the hundreds, or even thousands spent to waste. You're also in the position of being geared enough to participate in X content and feeling it would be a waste of what you have to not continue on and take that chance.
Playing ms is already a waste of time, money and effort. Quitting or not, is wasting life.
Why do we play Maplestory? - LegendGospel - 2013-10-07
Now I'll play the role of devil's advocate.
To be fair, getting from 1-200 is pretty common now. To the point where level 200 means nothing, in contrast of it being a huge accomplishment where people would smega like crazy for people who did it.
True, the cap now is level 250, but there's no real reward in getting to 250 now, unless you really really care about the opinion of a bunch of kids from basilmarket, who worship high levels as gods. Being high level means nothing today, so there's no point. There is NO level 200-250 content, and the biggest proof is that fifth job is yet to come. So if you're grinding 8 hours a day for 10% exp, in order to be the first level 250, you're the one impaling yourself. Just wait 2-3 years, when we have 5th job content and it's common to get to 250.
Why do we play Maplestory? - Burritos - 2013-10-08
I don't really play the main Maplestory game itself too much anymore, but Monster Life is still IMO. I guess the completionist in me won't let me go until that dang Monster Book is filled.
Why do we play Maplestory? - Seanny - 2013-10-08
Words Wrote:Playing ms is already a waste of time, money and effort. Quitting or not, is wasting life.
I'm from a different school of thought. That free time is something that should be taken just as seriously as work, especially if you're in the position of not having a lot of free time to spare.
Was it really a waste if it made you smile or laugh at least once?
I don't mean to say 'Maple is productivity' equal to that of school or a job. Its a different kind of product: entertainment, what we work so hard to afford while still working to stay alive. What I really mean is that for most entertainment, the memory of a good time is all that remains, like going to a movie or a sports game a trip and other stuff. MMOs and games give you that, but unlike other pasttimes, also has the uncanny unique ability to reward you for the time you've spent in the past. It's like your free time is constantly adding up into more and more entertainment.
Why do we play Maplestory? - EmpireSun - 2013-10-08
I used to enjoy this game very much with my friends. But as the years pasts, I have seen how each one of them left this game.
After 8 years of playing, I can say there were 3 generations of friends that I met and then one by one would slowly quit the game.
At the beginning of 2013 there was only 2 friends that were still playing the game. At summer of 2013, I was the only one playing.
And then:
Mandalay Wrote:Personally, one of the biggest wake-up calls to "Why am I still playing this?" was the attendance events.
God dammit, this.
I also realized this from that massive attendance event that covered from July 2 to August 13. That was the last event I did before quitting.
Thankfully I was able to sell all my equips to get back some of the money I spend over the past 8 years.
Why do we play Maplestory? - Sephie - 2013-10-08
I started playing because of real life friends but I stayed for the social aspect and legitimately loved the game for what it was.
I stopped because there came a tipping point where finally every single part of the game I stayed for was ruined to the point where all I wanted to do was afk.
Why am I still here? Because I am still a firm believer that it is a great game. I love the story, the music, the lore, the gameplay, the concepts (Ludibrium is still my favorite concept of a world out of any game I play), the monsters and the rest of the content.
I'm still here just hoping, just praying that the game can change for the better. In the mean time, I just spend my time making a new concept for a character and making them look pretty.
Why do we play Maplestory? - Dusk - 2013-10-08
Seanny Wrote:I'm pretty sure, honestly, for many of you guys. Its the fact that you've built up so much that stops you from quitting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy
I've quit 4 MMOs since I stopped playing MapleStory. The first time you do it, you worry about all the time you've wasted. Then eventually you realize that it's always about the journey and that the destination is only ever fun for a couple hours. Having stuff in an MMO hardly ever provides any entertainment value and doesn't increase your enjoyment at all. It's only the process of accumulating it that's rewarding.
Why do we play Maplestory? - ZeekFox - 2013-10-08
I think for me, part of it has to do with the comfort of familiarity. I'm not against learning a new game, but a lot of times, sticking to what I know is relaxing.
I started back around 2005, I think. Some other furries invited me to play it. We were all nooby together, though I think I took my grinding ability from console RPG's and applied it to this fun little online game and started getting ahead of everyone else. I was never the craziest leveler out there, and being a Sniper ended up detrimental to my leveling because I literally couldn't manage Grims and later, Himes training. I had too little health and that whole "too close to the target = bowsmack" issue. But I was pretty determined, and ended up going much further than your typical casual player.
But I have a really low pay2win tolerance. The Gachapon system ticked me off, because now people were now getting pink capes with weapon attack, which due to the low rates and fact that most people weren't gonna pay a buck apiece for a spin at the worthless item gallery, ended up worth something like 100m in a game where even 5m was crazy money. And this was even before Chaos Scrolls, so it literally was just 3 attack worth of cape. Still, I managed to keep going.
2x cards really killed me though. Before potential, the game was more about level than actual stats, especially when the +5 stat you got from leveling was meaningful since you could only get so much out of equips. And my motivation for playing a lot was climbing up the bowman ranks. I mean, I clearly couldn't keep up with Dragon Knights and Priests, but I was on equal footing with most other bowmen, for the most part. But then other bowmen started shooting up the ranks with their 2x EXP cards, while at the same time making 5x more grinding profit on 2x drop cards (because pot costs back then were expensive! If you looted 100K but used up 75K in potions, you made +25K. If you used 2x drop and looted 200K, suddenly you made +125K profit). Without any NX for myself, I got massively left behind.
It wasn't long after that private servers started appearing in the public eye. I absolutely LOVED OdinMS because you literally could not pay to get ahead. And with a fair shot at the rankings, I was the top leveled Priest and second in overall magician rankings when the server shut down. And that was no simple task...I spent many hours telecasting Shining Ray to get there.
I've been a big fan of low rate private servers ever since. Though I am no longer highly competitive and driven to be in the upper rankings, I love the fairness factor and the fact that somebody, somewhere, is risking a lot and sacrificing time and money to keep the game version of Maple Story alive. Because what Nexon puts out isn't so much a game anymore, but rather just a business plan with the title of Maple Story. And let's face it, I'm not the only one tired of "Maple Story, the profit margin". But I still enjoy "Maple Story, the game", which I know isn't legal, but at least it still exists.
So if you ask why I still play, it's because I'm much more satisfied with my alternative methods of playing, which don't involve Nexon quite so much.
Why do we play Maplestory? - Sephie - 2013-10-08
Dusk Wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy
I've quit 4 MMOs since I stopped playing MapleStory. The first time you do it, you worry about all the time you've wasted. Then eventually you realize that it's always about the journey and that the destination is only ever fun for a couple hours. Having stuff in an MMO hardly ever provides any entertainment value and doesn't increase your enjoyment at all. It's only the process of accumulating it that's rewarding.
It's funny you mention that. My friend showed me a game called Upgrade Complete where the entire point of the game is upgrading things. There's this terrible "main game" in the form of a dumb shooter but your upgrades boost the performance of your ship. The actual main appeal is getting to upgrade parts of the game to see a visible positive change in your otherwise terrible shooter. Also, you get achievements for that feeling of "completion".
So like, when you play the game, that feeling of upgrading, getting "achievements", and that sense of progression it gives you is so appealing that you keep playing. After you sink so much time into it you finally beat the game... and that was it. There was really nothing left. It is the perfect comparison to the pointlessness to many games like MapleStory: the main "game" is terrible, upgrading is fun and appealing, and in the end all that progression is completely meaningless. Then you start to wonder why such a pointless game was ever fun, especially with all that time you've spent trying to beat it.
Why do we play Maplestory? - Vanderlust - 2013-10-08
For awhile (until maybe a few months ago) I was playing the game due to a combination of nostalgia + keeping in contact with friends met through the game. However, a lot of those have left too, and the majority of the ones that stay including myself find the game boring and afk a lot or just use it as a chat client (slowly moving to skype).
My state with the game can best be described as tolerating how boring the game is in hopes that all the good things that made me originally play the game return (and with it, the people). Actually, I think I play it because it's become part of the status quo. It's the only game I've spent significant time playing in the past 4 years, and I don't want it completely let go of it yet.
But! I've since realized in the past week or so that it's really not the same game, so I actually don't feel that bad completely letting go if I had to. However, I have so much extra time right now though, I don't mind spending time with the game on what seems to be its deathbed.
Special shoutout to [MENTION=4455]HellenzSin[/MENTION]; BibleThump
Why do we play Maplestory? - PoetryIsFail - 2013-10-08
Its relaxing to kill time without any challenge beyond your hp going to zero and failing a boss run that you can either attempt again or wait another day to do so.
I also USED to find it satisfying to upgrade gear/equipment, but after appreciating the true extent to which I view event quests as "chores" to make my character "stronger" (where the extra strength wouldn't do jack pomegranate in terms of helping me fight higher tier bosses) I gave up entirely and haven't ever done a proper attendance event since.
Also the residual butthurt from dying from %hp attacks on my Paladin, a class which has essentially sacrificed its damage for the sake of 'lulz' defense, has also built up to the point where I can finally see how skewed and money driven Nexon's sense of game balance is, as my class is still doing "relatively well off".
In short. pineapple "obligations" to this game and pineapple the messed up balance in it. I play this game a lot less now and I like it that way.
The only thing preventing me from quitting out right is the small goal of putting a sizeable dent (not even killing) in Magnus' hp post R.E.D
Why do we play Maplestory? - Kusanagi Haru - 2013-10-08
... because friends.
I still playing MapleStory, still alternating between GMS and MSEA.
MSEA= events like soul weapon
GMS= my DS friends who keep supporting me and they always need me.
My reasons were:
1) simple graphics like metal slug game play wise.
2) friends and social features in MapleStory (i liked new maple chat features, i still have my own maple family, guild, friends, still keeping in touch with them in FB)
3) diversity of area / region (i prefer magatia, nice screensot place)
4) LV 200 for the 1st time (in my own maple journey) in legally maplestory server.
I used to dream that I'll be 200 one day since pre-big bang but I never expect that my DS is getting close to the goal, even after Unlimited / Unleashed / S2 patch
Once I reach 200, it's a big achievement to me due to hard work I did since April 2013 when I starting to focus more in GMS.
Also, there are 4 characters of mine that I couldnt quit the game because I spent much time, money and focus to grow them:
MSEA Fornax (Artemis) - KusanagiHaru (my only nx-dressed character in MapleSEA, charged 25k @cash for nx outfit)
GMS Renegades - MaouEmilio (my very 1st nx dressed character, the only character that have lots of friends, current main)
GMS Renegades - KayGranda (my Project Nostalgia character, enjoyed much time while taking a break training my DS)
GMS Renegades - WinLoginEXE (my sister's and my project of stand-alone character, no character cards, no other characters in the account)
;w;
Why do we play Maplestory? - Declaimed - 2013-10-08
Sephie Wrote:I started playing because of real life friends but I stayed for the social aspect and legitimately loved the game for what it was.
I stopped because there came a tipping point where finally every single part of the game I stayed for was ruined to the point where all I wanted to do was afk.
Why am I still here? Because I am still a firm believer that it is a great game. I love the story, the music, the lore, the gameplay, the concepts (Ludibrium is still my favorite concept of a world out of any game I play), the monsters and the rest of the content.
I'm still here just hoping, just praying that the game can change for the better. In the mean time, I just spend my time making a new concept for a character and making them look pretty.
Personally agree with most of this sans the last sentence.
Why do we play Maplestory? - MuscleWizard - 2013-10-08
Tempted to just close my ban appeal ticket, I think I'd just get sucked back into the spiral.
Why do we play Maplestory? - Bomber - 2013-10-08
I continued playing maplestory because i had fun with bossing, PvPing and familiar hunting. I played it when broa came out and as far as i remember i played it because my friend got me into it. I dont even remember the reason.
Then bosses because horrible(unleashed) and i realized what a waste of time the game has become. No merits for bossing and since i had done it so many times in the past, wasting my day or spending copious amounts of money JUST to have fun for 5-20 minutes per boss lost its value. I learned everything about how to deal with bosses and it became routine. A routine which i got nothing out of because the fun factor could only last if i got something out of it. At that point... I didn't find it fun anymore. Bosses were even blocked from my view in daily routines because i myself could not handle new bosses alone. I lost magnus and V2 for myself to be specific. Nobody wanted to hard hilla anymore, and i was so mad because i could have swore i went 70+ times but my medal would not come to me. I ended up going online to talk and do attendance. I realized i was wasting my time upgrading if i had nothing to upgrade for.
Pvp was ruined. That was an extremely large amount of passtime for a while. Thats gone.
Familiar hunting was an extremely large amount of passtime for a while. I barely have any familiars to hunt anymore and the others require nx which i no longer can acquire since i need my money for real life.
Having no laptop for 3 weeks gave me the medium to get out of the maple addiction.
Why do we play Maplestory? - CarrionCrow - 2013-10-08
I spend more time on the farm than I do in the actual game.
I think the game really died for me when it moved away from bosses like Big foot and Castellan. The new bossing is just not doing it for me.