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A Theory to the New EXP Changes - lulzace - 2013-07-07

Oh. Well that's awesome for whatever server you are in. But for YMCK like every SH and HoH was being soloed on top of everything else. :/

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Imitazion - 2013-07-07

they fixed the EXP in KMS.
before, it was like this:
1x
  • your kill: 700
1x with HS:
  • your kill: 700
  • holy symbol: 350
2x
  • your kill: 700
  • bonus experience: 700
2x with HS
  • your kill: 700
  • bonus experience: 700
  • holy symbol: 350

now, it is like this:
1x and 1x with HS are obviously the same.

2x
  • your kill: 700
  • bonus experience: 700
2x with HS
  • your kill: 700
  • bonus experience + hs: 1400
2x and HS is essentially 3x again.

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Patt - 2013-07-07

Imitazion Wrote:they fixed the EXP in KMS.
before, it was like this:
1x
  • your kill: 700
1x with HS:
  • your kill: 700
  • holy symbol: 350
2x
  • your kill: 700
  • bonus experience: 700
2x with HS
  • your kill: 700
  • bonus experience: 700
  • holy symbol: 350

now, it is like this:
1x and 1x with HS are obviously the same.

2x
  • your kill: 700
  • bonus experience: 700
2x with HS
  • your kill: 700
  • bonus experience + hs: 1400
2x and HS is essentially 3x again.

Thank you. Hopefully this makes partying beneficial again in party play areas. What update this happen in? Red?

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Grey - 2013-07-08

Patt Wrote:Thank you. Hopefully this makes partying beneficial again in party play areas. What update this happen in? Red?

This is already what it's like for us.

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Thorr - 2013-07-08

Patt Wrote:Thank you. Hopefully this makes partying beneficial again in party play areas. What update this happen in? Red?

iAmFear Wrote:This is already what it's like for us.

This is indeed what GMS has already. We have already laid out in detail how it affects parties. (HINT: It still sucks big fat hairy balls.)

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Patt - 2013-07-08

Thorr Wrote:This is indeed what GMS has already. We have already laid out in detail how it affects parties. (HINT: It still sucks big fat hairy balls.)

Oh I guess I misunderstood. I thought in unleashed we got the first listed there (2x with hs for 1750) and KMS buffed this slightly (albeit not to the original) to 2x with hs for 2100.

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Niernen - 2013-07-08

So I noticed something when training in Evo world. The mobs were giving me 7k exp per kill, and 63k bonus exp, for a total of 70k (10x). This was during a 2x event while I was using a 2x card, a 1.5 buff, and HS. If I did my math correctly, that should be 9x...

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - lulzace - 2013-07-09

iAmFear Wrote:This is already what it's like for us.

So to clarify for me:

2x card + 2x exp coupon + 30% exp pendant + level 2 Mercedes link + exp acquisition potion(two if on an alchemist) come out to 6.2x with one potion and 6.6x with two?
I'm searching around for threads on evo system do we have the exact multipliers for the hp boost cores anywhere?

Edit: found it 20x is essentially 5x exp

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Thorr - 2013-07-09

lulzace Wrote:So to clarify for me:

2x card + 2x exp coupon + 30% exp pendant + level 2 Mercedes link + exp acquisition potion(two if on an alchemist) come out to 6.2x with one potion and 6.6x with two?
I'm searching around for threads on evo system do we have the exact multipliers for the hp boost cores anywhere?

Edit: found it 20x is essentially 5x exp

That's pretty much it. Anything beyond the BONUS Exp line is calculated only on the base (The first line).

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Grey - 2013-07-09

lulzace Wrote:So to clarify for me:

2x card + 2x exp coupon + 30% exp pendant + level 2 Mercedes link + exp acquisition potion(two if on an alchemist) come out to 6.2x with one potion and 6.6x with two?

The first two get you to 4x, then the rest of them are additive, so 4.3, then 4.45, then 4.55.

It'd end up looking like this:
100% EXP Base Line
300% EXP Bonus Line
30% Item Bonus EXP
15% Elven Blessing Bonus EXP
10% Bonus EXP from the Potion

One or more of the last three lines might appear together on one line, additively.

455%, or 4.55x.

Party Play, the Guild Skill, Mercedes Link, equip bonuses, potions, and possibly Lucky Dice have their own line, so they do not multiply with the bonus EXP. HS, 1.5x/2x use buffs, family, events and the like are already multiplicative with each other rather than being on separate lines, which is what the change was in kMS.

Also, note, you cannot use two of the same potion, even if you were an alchemist. Being an alchemist only lets you use more than one of the alchemist potions in general, for example, 10% EXP and 10% Drop, or +7000 MaxHP and +10% Crit Rate, +30% Status Resistance and +24 ATT, but not 10% EXP and 10% EXP, or +7000 MaxHP and +7000 MaxHP, or +24 ATT and +24 ATT. This also extends to less effective potions of the same type. You can't use more than one HP boosting potion, so you can't do +7000 MaxHP and +5000 MaxHP, or more than one Hero potion, so you can't do +24 ATT and +18 ATT, etc.

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - lulzace - 2013-07-10

Idk wth I was typing, I mean't the MPE gold potion. I probably wrote that since i tend to use the drop and exp at the same time.

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - ShadeCaro - 2013-07-10

Is there any chance of Nexon making a change to the party play system again? Or are we going to have to man up and live with what we have?

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Eliul - 2013-07-27

So has anyone tried retrieving a x2 card on a level 200+ stored from another char with shared cs less than level 200?

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Chilly - 2013-07-27

Eliul Wrote:So has anyone tried retrieving a x2 card on a level 200+ stored from another char with shared cs less than level 200?

It doesn't work.

Source: Another post in another thread, it might be the Announcement or one of the others. The poster also mentioned Marvel 2X doesn't work either.

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Kaasoljoyyx - 2013-07-27

Chilly Wrote:It doesn't work.

Source: Another post in another thread, it might be the Announcement or one of the others. The poster also mentioned Marvel 2X doesn't work either.

To add on, gifted cards can't be gifted to 200+s

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Eliul - 2013-07-27

Thanks for the info guys. Guess they really are cracking down hard on 200+.

They could have atleast made AG 50% party bonus. It's dull enough grinding enough alone. Frown

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Arrg - 2013-07-28

Not sure if this'll help anyone, but here's a reference. All of these are during a 2X event, the last line is mercedes link. No zero card for extra exp. Screenshots taken today in kMS. http://imgur.com/a/jrpd2

Official knight E, exp 102757. Party bonus is 20%/member

 1. HS, solo
 2. HS, party of 190 and 205
 3. (faint) No HS, same party, leeching the exp
 4. No HS, 191 and 205, leeching the exp
 5. HS, 191 and 205, leeching the exp

Additional info : I have the +20% exp hyper for HS, however that doesn't seem to show at all in the first screenshot, and I can't tell if it's showing in the 2nd one...more info coming after 2x ends, since I want to know if the +20% exp hyper simply doesn't work during 2x.

K, 2x ended.
 party 1x, hs, 191/205
 solo 1x, hs
 party 1x, hs, +20% from another cleric in party, level 191 and 200
 primary kill 2x xp, hs, 205/191, last line is zero A card (6%) + merc link 10%
Conclusion: It seems like the +20% exp from HS doesn't work during 2x, or it doesn't work solo and 2x. I can't really make much sense of the party ones.

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Thorr - 2013-07-28

27755 is 70% of the base in screenshot 1. 20% is showing just fine there.
71k is 70% of 102k in the second shot. 20% is showing just fine there, too.
28275 is 70% of the base line in the 3rd shot. Still seems to be just fine.
Only the 4th shot is questionable. It 'looks' like the 20% hyper doesn't work on 2x event bonus.

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - Arrg - 2013-07-28

Thorr Wrote:27755 is 70% of the base in screenshot 1. 20% is showing just fine there.
71k is 70% of 102k in the second shot. 20% is showing just fine there, too.
28275 is 70% of the base line in the 3rd shot. Still seems to be just fine.
Only the 4th shot is questionable. It 'looks' like the 20% hyper doesn't work on 2x event bonus.

Well there's 9 screenshots, but I posted a link to the album for the first 5. I guess I'll just embed them instead. And the 4th screenshot is a xenon, not me, the hs hyper only works for the bishop.

A Theory to the New EXP Changes - i123theDemon - 2013-07-29

The worst part of playing with party is:

Exp with party on 1x coupons
50k white exp
90k bonus for party

Exp with party on 2x coupon:
50k white exp
50k bonus exp
90k bonus for party <--- wth?? screw partying!