Rayquaza2233 Wrote:You gave two very different reasons for Ashe/Leona only being "ok". Pick one.

Aynia Wrote:SO YOU GET HIT FOR 2 OUT OF 3 Q'S AT BEST

ALSO IF SORAKA HEALS YOU ANYWHERE BEFORE YOU GET ULTED, YOU LIVE AND LAUGH

OR IF YOU JOOK DA ULT

I LOVE IT WHEN I JOOK ULTS

ONLY TIME I SEE GRAVES HIT ALL 3 BUCKSHOTS IS WHEN HE'S TOP LANE AGAINST MELEE

RandomZodiac Wrote:YOU KNOW YOU REALLY DONT HAVE TO TALK LIKE THIS IN EVERY POST, ALSO IF YOU ARE PLAYING GAMES WHERE PEOPLE ARE PLAYING GRAVES TOP LANE I FEEL REALLY BAD FOR YOU.

Aynia Wrote:GRAVES TOP/MID IS EXTREMELY VIABLE DEPENDING ON THE ENEMY LANES

RandomZodiac Wrote:I GUESS IM NOT AT A HIGH ENOUGH ELO TO UNDERSTAND, MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE SOME EXAMPLES, ANY VIDEOS OF PRO PLAYERS USING THAT

Aynia Wrote:YA PRETTY MUCH

Raul Wrote:When I read what Aynia is posting, it comes out sounding like an old redneck sitting on his porch yelling at kids, no matter what I do.

Quote:Graves is the hardest of the 3 AD laners and will test your skill with riven, especially if he starts cloth. The reason he is so much harder to deal with than corki is two fold. His dash is low mana so he can spam it but it also only moves him a short distance, enough that you have trouble catching him and that he can hit you as you walk back after using your spells. If he sounds tough it is because he is, at least to people with inexperience versus this kind of matchup. There really isn't any single trick to this matchup, it is all about outplaying him by taking less damage and harassing him for more.

Quote:Due to the recent surge of Graves and Corki going top, not that abnormal to see those two champs at top. Pretty scary since Graves can fill any role and be pretty good at it. His passive makes him pretty tanky in lane too. Smoke bombs are annoying since you rely on autoattacks for your main damage source during the laning phase and he has a pretty big burst at 6. Just last hit and harass him when there's nothing to last hit.

Aynia Wrote:AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


ALSO http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=16914 SEE SECTION ON TOP LANE (GRAVES/CORKI/VAYNE)



A REPLAY AT 2K ELO OF GRAVES SOLO TOP
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/390921/


SEE ANOTHER GUIDE AT HIGHER ELO OF SOLO TOP NIDALEE
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=13827



SORRY UR METAGAMING AT 900 ELO IS NOT AS EFFECTIVE

IT TOUGH DOWN THERE

YOU DON'T BAN MORG, PPL AFK AND pomegranate

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