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The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Five Second Pose - 2012-05-08
Warding jungle entrances is really important, this is something I've come to learn.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Corn - 2012-05-08
I usually have to buy wards as AD carry because my dumb support doesn't buy nearly enough.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - KajitiSouls - 2012-05-08
Corn Wrote:I usually have to buy wards as AD carry because my dumb support doesn't buy nearly enough.
Or rather your support just simply ran out. Cause y'know, laning for 10 minutes straight is a real burden on your ward supply. Especially if you're trying to ward multiple locations.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Corn - 2012-05-08
No seriously I mean I meet supports that start with Regrowth Pendant + 1 pot Q_Q.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Derosis - 2012-05-08
modular Wrote:very bad mindset
there are very few instances where a jungler would walk directly up/downriver through their wards and try 2 ganks directly in a row without clearing something from some jungle first.
besides, you can place your wards so they cover other areas you would have no info about from other lanes' wards.
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:bad bad bad bad bad do not do this
Ward near your wraiths, ward other jungle entrances. Information is key.
You guys should both read my sentence in its entirety instead of just focusing on the primary sentence. If you know the jungler, then you should understand the route. If you have your top and bottom ward then you should be fine, and I'm speaking of course if you ward the sports in the middle of the river. All in all, I don't see a reason for warding early game with mid lane. I just don't see it being in the best interest of the AP.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Corn - 2012-05-08
Derosis Wrote:You guys should both read my sentence in its entirety instead of just focusing on the primary sentence. If you know the jungler, then you should understand the route. If you have your top and bottom ward then you should be fine, and I'm speaking of course if you ward the sports in the middle of the river. All in all, I don't see a reason for warding early game with mid lane. I just don't see it being in the best interest of the AP.
That's still a pretty bad mindset. There's plenty of routes that the jungler can take to gank without going to Baron or Dragon.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Five Second Pose - 2012-05-08
Derosis Wrote:You guys should both read my sentence in its entirety instead of just focusing on the primary sentence. If you know the jungler, then you should understand the route. If you have your top and bottom ward then you should be fine, and I'm speaking of course if you ward the sports in the middle of the river. All in all, I don't see a reason for warding early game with mid lane. I just don't see it being in the best interest of the AP.
League of Legends is a team game. You prevent one gank on ANYONE and the wards have more than paid for themselves.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - modular - 2012-05-08
Derosis Wrote:You guys should both read my sentence in its entirety instead of just focusing on the primary sentence. If you know the jungler, then you should understand the route. If you have your top and bottom ward then you should be fine, and I'm speaking of course if you ward the sports in the middle of the river. All in all, I don't see a reason for warding early game with mid lane. I just don't see it being in the best interest of the AP.
i did. and you came across as saying something extremely unhelpful. even this ^ is really bad. im not saying start off buying 2 wards and boots. because of course you can guess at timings and such for ganks emtremely early. but after you push b the first time, make sure you have spare money for ward(s). 5+ minutes in, no jungler will have a set route. itll be completely random. and you cant keep yourself safe with other lanes' wards against an opponent with even the tiniest bit of intelligence.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Derosis - 2012-05-08
Well I don't see anyone really start out with wards. And I don't see why they should. After they B, sure why not all for it. But, before going B for the first time I see zero absolute point in doing so. It's either the individuals don't understand what I'm saying, or you don't play passive-aggressively. I mean I don't push turret period; farm, farm, and farm is pretty much my point of mid lane. If I get a gank, sweet I'll capitalize, if the enemy makes a mistake even better.
Support Lane: Seems like Leona is starting to become more meta. Seeing her a lot before free week recently. Guess she's gonna get nerfed soon.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Five Second Pose - 2012-05-08
"you don't see anyone starting with wards"
Yeah, we didn't tell you to do that. We're telling you to ward in general.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - modular - 2012-05-08
Derosis Wrote:Well I don't see anyone really start out with wards. And I don't see why they should. After they B, sure why not all for it. But, before going B for the first time I see zero absolute point in doing so. It's either the individuals don't understand what I'm saying, or you don't play passive-aggressively. I mean I don't push turret period; farm, farm, and farm is pretty much my point of mid lane. If I get a gank, sweet I'll capitalize, if the enemy makes a mistake even better.
Support Lane: Seems like Leona is starting to become more meta. Seeing her a lot before free week recently. Guess she's gonna get nerfed soon.
farm lanes are only good for you under certain circumstances... like when you get counterpicked. most other times (and once youre high enough level) you oughta be looking to wipe waves as quickly as possible, go to a gank or global objective, and come back just as the tower is shooting at the first surviving melee minion.
just farming the lane out is wasting your potential.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Corn - 2012-05-08
Derosis Wrote:Well I don't see anyone really start out with wards. And I don't see why they should. After they B, sure why not all for it. But, before going B for the first time I see zero absolute point in doing so. It's either the individuals don't understand what I'm saying, or you don't play passive-aggressively. I mean I don't push turret period; farm, farm, and farm is pretty much my point of mid lane. If I get a gank, sweet I'll capitalize, if the enemy makes a mistake even better.
Support Lane: Seems like Leona is starting to become more meta. Seeing her a lot before free week recently. Guess she's gonna get nerfed soon.
Only the support should start with wards O_o.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Derosis - 2012-05-08
Corn Wrote:Only the support should start with wards O_o.
I kept reading that you should start with wards. From you, Ray, and modular.
@Rayquaza2233; Then say that initially instead of making me want to punch you two in the face for sounding like retards. Jesus christ. You both sounded like morons from my end. I never said not get wards. I said when you feel pressured get more. I never said not to. Jesus f'uck.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Five Second Pose - 2012-05-08
Derosis Wrote:You guys sounded like you all said that you should start with wards.
@Rayquaza2233; Then say that initially instead of making me want to punch you two in the face for sounding like retards. Jesus christ. You both sounded like morons from my end. I never said not get wards. I said when you feel pressured get more. I never said not to. Jesus f'uck.
You read between lines that weren't there.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Derosis - 2012-05-08
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:You read between lines that weren't there.
I'll just stay away. My head is killing me. Can't play support because of free week Leonas. My head ist killing me.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Five Second Pose - 2012-05-08
Derosis Wrote:I'll just stay away. My head is killing me. Can't play support because of free week Leonas. My head ist killing me.
If that's what you feel is best we can't change your mind.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Corn - 2012-05-08
Don't worry Derosis I also get high too and read lines that aren't there.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Derosis - 2012-05-08
Corn Wrote:Don't worry Derosis I also get high too and read lines that aren't there.
Alright let me just try to clear this up while my head doesn't hurt like f'uck.
1: I never said not to get wards. Wards are always something everyone should get.
2: I meant to say, not to initially get wards for middle. First B do get wards, or depending on how the lane is going don't. It's a personal preference.
3: Let me try to say, I hate free week Leonas?
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Corn - 2012-05-08
Derosis Wrote:Alright let me just try to clear this up while my head doesn't hurt like f'uck.
1: I never said not to get wards. Wards are always something everyone should get.
2: I meant to say, not to initially get wards for middle. First B do get wards, or depending on how the lane is going don't. It's a personal preference.
3: Let me try to say, I hate free week Leonas?
I'm not going to point out the posts which you posted which contradict your first two points and just pretend this entire conversation never happened.
The HEY HOW CAN I IMPROVE Thread - Derosis - 2012-05-09
Corn Wrote:I'm not going to point out the posts which you posted which contradict your first two points and just pretend this entire conversation never happened.But I... but I didn'... Oh f'uck it. It's been a long day.