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Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - Leaves - 2012-01-26
KhainiWest Wrote:Explain to me why there are receipts and why we have them then.
If I charge $20 and get hacked soon after because of a database breach I had no control over, then that security of my payment, which is not a donation is broken. You can say in the TOS that NX has no tangible value outside of the game and you're essentially giving it away, but the fact remains it does. The TOS can say anything he wants, but like law, if fact's contradict then it's questionable.
It's a business not a not profit organization, whether it's a service or not is irrelevant.
Pretty much this.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - yo72 - 2012-01-26
Nx has no value u turned ur real money into another form of mesos
Nexon only service to you is providing you with the nx you bought aka paypal error ect
and they do
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - yo72 - 2012-01-26
Nx has no value u turned ur real money into another form of mesos
Nexon only service to you is providing you with the nx you bought aka paypal error ect
and they do
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - KhainiWest - 2012-01-26
yo72 Wrote:Nx has no value u turned ur real money into another form of mesos
Nexon only service to you is providing you with the nx you bought aka paypal error ect
and they do
If I present a receipt that shows I made payment for a service, that they provide, and I lose it because their door was wide open, with proof by the very receipts on the website by what was purchased showing where the nx is, and refuse to compensate it that's a problem.
Virtual property isn't worthless property and what the TOS says isn't by itself solid. They would have to justify it, which would be pretty hard with the resources showing that it was stolen, especially if a list of compromised accounts would have to be provided, and your name at the very top.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - yo72 - 2012-01-26
Their only service to you is to give you 1,000 nx for every dollar you spend which you get
Like I said I'm sure they could convince the judge that protecting ur id/pass is considered customer service
WHICH THEY DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE AS A FTP GAME
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - Retalion - 2012-01-26
yo72 Wrote:If an email had any value you would have to prove it was nexon's mistake 100% not a sliver of a doubt and not anyone elses you would probably also have to prove it was lost through carelessness on their part.
That's pretty LOL. That only applies to criminal law. I can tell someone failed business law.
I don't know why we should continue arguing with yo72. It's obvious his intelligence is obviously lacking. His posts on the forum since he's joined have lacked intelligence from the start. Its really no surprise.
Edit: @ Leaves: in regards to proving that they've lost my information, I would probably make them prove that their ID/passwords and personal information are in two different databases/places. Otherwise, the fact that they got the ID and passwords but not my information would seem rather sketchy.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - Raul - 2012-01-26
yo72 Wrote:Nx has no value u turned ur real money into another form of mesos
Nexon only service to you is providing you with the nx you bought aka paypal error ect
and they do
I'm not going to lie.
When I saw this on the new posts thing, I thought it said Hamad138. I was really excited.
Is it possible to have a Freudian slip with your eyes?
Anyhow, this is pineappleing incomprehensible.
Who feels like translating this out of retardese for me?
EDIT:
@above:
Yeah, you're probably right.
Guess it's time to add to my ignore list though.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - KhainiWest - 2012-01-26
yo72 Wrote:Their only service to you is to give you 1,000 nx for every dollar you spend which you get
Like I said I'm sure they could convince the judge that protecting ur id/pass is considered customer service
WHICH THEY DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE AS A FTP GAME
God you're so ignorant;
http://www.nexon.net/legal/privacy-policy/
we are committed to implementing measures designed to protect the privacy of those using the Service.
we reserve the right to use IP addresses and other tracking technologies to identify a visitor only when we feel it is necessary to enforce compliance with the Site's policies, to protect the Site, our customers and others or we believe in good faith that the law requires it
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - Raul - 2012-01-26
KhainiWest Wrote:God you're so ignorant;
http://www.nexon.net/legal/privacy-policy/
Hey look that they even have access to IP address to confirm whether it's you or not who's hacking your f`ucking account.
we are committed to implementing measures designed to protect the privacy of those using the Service.
we reserve the right to use IP addresses and other tracking technologies to identify a visitor only when we feel it is necessary to enforce compliance with the Site's policies, to protect the Site, our customers and others or we believe in good faith that the law requires it
Oh, good.
I was hacking my own account the other day, and I was getting real worried that I might get in trouble for it.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - Raul - 2012-01-26
KhainiWest Wrote:God you're so ignorant;
http://www.nexon.net/legal/privacy-policy/
Hey look that they even have access to IP address to confirm whether it's you or not who's hacking your f`ucking account.
we are committed to implementing measures designed to protect the privacy of those using the Service.
we reserve the right to use IP addresses and other tracking technologies to identify a visitor only when we feel it is necessary to enforce compliance with the Site's policies, to protect the Site, our customers and others or we believe in good faith that the law requires it
Oh, good.
I was hacking my own account the other day, and I was getting real worried that I might get in trouble for it.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - KhainiWest - 2012-01-26
Nexon Wrote:Oh, good.
I was hacking my own account the other day, and I was getting real worried that I might get in trouble for it.
That's because you're an incompetent business
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - Leaves - 2012-01-26
Retalion Wrote:That's pretty LOL. That only applies to criminal law. I can tell someone failed business law.
I don't know why we should continue arguing with yo72. It's obvious his intelligence is obviously lacking. His posts on the forum since he's joined have lacked intelligence from the start. Its really no surprise.
Edit: @ Leaves: in regards to proving that they've lost my information, I would probably make them prove that their ID/passwords and personal information are in two different databases/places. Otherwise, the fact that they got the ID and passwords but not my information would seem rather sketchy.
Yeah, I guess this is where it becomes sort of a gray area in terms of how in-depth you go with the structure of their databases. Anyways, the point of your right to sue still stands, and I guess that's all that really matters.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - Raul - 2012-01-26
KhainiWest Wrote:That's because you're an incompetent business
wat
my name is now Nexon?
ZELKOVA
GIVE ME CREDITS FOR A NAME CHANGE
I WANNA CHANGE IT TO NEXON
JUST TO pineapple WITH PEOPLE'S HEADS
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - KhainiWest - 2012-01-26
Well guy's look like he's done, my civic duty has been completed.
Raul Wrote:wat
my name is now Nexon?
ZELKOVA
GIVE ME CREDITS FOR A NAME CHANGE
I WANNA CHANGE IT TO NEXON
JUST TO pineapple WITH PEOPLE'S HEADS
No your quote is something nexon would say LOL
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - Seanny - 2012-01-26
Raul Wrote:wat
my name is now Nexon?
ZELKOVA
GIVE ME CREDITS FOR A NAME CHANGE
I WANNA CHANGE IT TO NEXON
JUST TO pineapple WITH PEOPLE'S HEADS
-heavily considering beating you to it-
and if i can't get that, i'm now '-Hime-'
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - Retalion - 2012-01-26
Leaves Wrote:Yeah, I guess this is where it becomes sort of a gray area in terms of how in-depth you go with the structure of their databases. Anyways, the point of your right to sue still stands, and I guess that's all that really matters.
That, and the fact I don't actually expect us to get to court. Lawyers are expensive. If they're anything like the car insurance companies here, then they'll settle before getting to court to save themselves money if there is the remotest chance they'll lose.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - PirateIzzy - 2012-01-26
KhainiWest Wrote:Well guy's look like he's done, my civic duty has been completed.
No your quote is something nexon would say LOL
"We're working on it...after we finish our coffee break."
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - MysticHLE - 2012-01-26
yo72 Wrote:Their only service to you is to give you 1,000 nx for every dollar you spend which you get
Like I said I'm sure they could convince the judge that protecting ur id/pass is considered customer service
WHICH THEY DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE AS A FTP GAME
I've read through all 3 pages of this thread.
And as someone who's been here since the start of this forum, I must say: you're the most retarded and ignorant poster I've seen here.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - ChronosXIII - 2012-01-26
This all reminds me of this one thread on the Nexon forums where one user was advocating others to increase their own account security.
...till it derailed into theoretical, legal scenarios between one adamant, but monotonous user, who kept droning on and on about how the ToS was binding and Nexon owes players nothing at all, and everyone else.
Except I think the guy over there was well versed in law.
Possible to sue companies for lack of security/support? - MysticHLE - 2012-01-26
ChronosXIII Wrote:This all reminds me of this one thread on the Nexon forums where one user was advocating others to increase their own account security.
...till it derailed into theoretical, legal scenarios between one adamant, but monotonous user, who kept droning on and on about how the ToS was binding and Nexon owes players nothing at all, and everyone else.
Except I think the guy over there was well versed in law.
He must not be if he can't apply theory to practicality in light of the aforementioned famous cases.