Cactuar Wrote:Looks like it's a 100% KP per attack, judging by that video.

Awesome.

EDIT: Joe, can you test to see if the points still affect damage without consuming them?

zeronoise Wrote:this is quick math and isn't gonna be anywhere near the quality that Joe does, since he does his through testing. With new nate+shad instinct + new shadow partner shad's might be op. 740*3(since last hit will be canceled)*1.825(1.7+.125from boomerang steps bonus(or would it be .175 since it was .125 because of 50% from shadow partner (.25*.5) )*2.5(kp bonus)/(1.56(3/4))(delay but since 4th hit is canceled i'm taking 1/4 of the delay out) = 8657%/s or 8894%/s for 1.875 as shadow partner bonus. like I said probably not entirely accurate but if its even close then it means shads r top tier dps wise

Mazz Wrote:Wow, Shadowers are crazy strong now! Training without BoT seems like it'd be annoying though, not entirely sure how that'll work out.

JoeTang Wrote:Muspelheim + Boomerang Step will probably be like Screw Punch + Dragon Strike except do damage.

JoeTang Wrote:I don't know who you are, but stop.

Shadower:

 Muspelheim

Defense:	0%	10%	25%	40%	70%
1 Target:	6442%/s	5966%/s	5253%/s	4540%/s	3113%/s
2 Target:	7277%/s	6761%/s	5986%/s	5212%/s	3663%/s
3 Target:	11582%/s	10744%/s	9481%/s	8217%/s	5695%/s
4 Target:	16074%/s	14892%/s	13115%/s	11337%/s	7788%/s
5 Target:	19954%/s	18476%/s	16247%/s	14038%/s	9614%/s
6 Target:	24018%/s	22232%/s	19546%/s	16875%/s	11525%/s
7 Target:	26624%/s	24635%/s	21652%/s	18672%/s	12680%/s
8 Target:	29259%/s	27066%/s	23744%/s	20437%/s	13839%/s
9 Target:	31909%/s	29480%/s	25848%/s	22232%/s	14997%/s
10 Target:	34507%/s	31881%/s	27959%/s	24019%/s	16143%/s

 Edge Carnival

Defense:	0%	10%	25%	40%	70%
1 Target:	7041%/s	6516%/s	5729%/s	4944%/s	3373%/s
2 Target:	7713%/s	7154%/s	6309%/s	5473%/s	3789%/s
3 Target:	11418%/s	10585%/s	9335%/s	8079%/s	5576%/s
4 Target:	15314%/s	14188%/s	12497%/s	10808%/s	7428%/s
5 Target:	19405%/s	17976%/s	15819%/s	13663%/s	9356%/s
6 Target:	23706%/s	21947%/s	19287%/s	16644%/s	11352%/s
7 Target:	26461%/s	24473%/s	21503%/s	18525%/s	12563%/s
8 Target:	29189%/s	26993%/s	23689%/s	20388%/s	13766%/s
9 Target:	31940%/s	29537%/s	25897%/s	22252%/s	14974%/s
10 Target:	34708%/s	32072%/s	28099%/s	24126%/s	16198%/s

Night Lord:

 Spoiler

Defense:	0%	10%	25%	40%	70%
1 Target:	4413%/s	4140%/s	3730%/s	3214%/s	2424%/s
2 Target:	3809%/s	3618%/s	3332%/s	2971%/s	2420%/s
3 Target:	5678%/s	5391%/s	4962%/s	4420%/s	3594%/s
4 Target:	7546%/s	7164%/s	6592%/s	5869%/s	4768%/s
5 Target:	9415%/s	8937%/s	8222%/s	7318%/s	5942%/s
6 Target:	11283%/s	10711%/s	9852%/s	8768%/s	7115%/s

sihou1 Wrote:What about assasinate no cooldown because i just checked on leafre and they said the 1.2.410 gives assasinate no cooldown
<Shadower>
Karma - [20 ATK -> 30 ATK]
Mesos Explosion - No longer gives assassination points
Foreign Spell Haim - [KB Chance 80% -> 100%]
Assassinate - No more cooldown

Blades4hire Wrote:Any preliminary phantom dps in the works joe?

Blades4hire Wrote:So ultimate drive is useless?
It has lower mob dps AND 1v1 dps than Brise Carte+charge+twilight. :f6:

JoeTang Wrote:If anyone has a Shadower on KMS, can they test if you can still cancel the last hit of Assassinate to not use up your KP?

JoeTang Wrote:]
DPS will be higher in-game due to the skipActionFrames tag that I'm not sure how to calculate.

Phantom:

 Weapon Speed: Faster (3)

Defense:	0%	10%	25%	40%	70%
1 Target:	7074%/s	6785%/s	6363%/s	5932%/s	5091%/s
2 Target:	5556%/s	5332%/s	4999%/s	4663%/s	3999%/s
3 Target:	8178%/s	7853%/s	7363%/s	6873%/s	5891%/s
4 Target:	10809%/s	10375%/s	9725%/s	9076%/s	7780%/s
5 Target:	13437%/s	12897%/s	12088%/s	11285%/s	9670%/s
6 Target:	16058%/s	15417%/s	14456%/s	13492%/s	11562%/s
7 Target:	18679%/s	17930%/s	16822%/s	15692%/s	13451%/s
8 Target:	21311%/s	20444%/s	19173%/s	17905%/s	15340%/s
9 Target:	23930%/s	22984%/s	21545%/s	20109%/s	17241%/s
10 Target:	26565%/s	25502%/s	23905%/s	22319%/s	19119%/s

 Weapon Speed: Fastest (2)

Defense:	0%	10%	25%	40%	70%
1 Target:	7062%/s	6785%/s	6373%/s	5931%/s	5082%/s
2 Target:	5954%/s	5718%/s	5357%/s	5003%/s	4288%/s
3 Target:	8772%/s	8418%/s	7895%/s	7369%/s	6315%/s
4 Target:	11581%/s	11121%/s	10425%/s	9733%/s	8342%/s
5 Target:	14401%/s	13824%/s	12962%/s	12096%/s	10364%/s
6 Target:	17215%/s	16527%/s	15492%/s	14462%/s	12391%/s
7 Target:	20024%/s	19224%/s	18028%/s	16820%/s	14421%/s
8 Target:	22840%/s	21928%/s	20559%/s	19199%/s	16446%/s
9 Target:	25659%/s	24634%/s	23086%/s	21554%/s	18480%/s
10 Target:	28475%/s	27332%/s	25624%/s	23926%/s	20504%/s

 Adjusted Mastery

 Weapon Speed: Faster (3)

Defense:	0%	10%	25%	40%	70%
1 Target:	7918%/s	7598%/s	7103%/s	6634%/s	5699%/s
2 Target:	6209%/s	5961%/s	5587%/s	5214%/s	4468%/s
3 Target:	9142%/s	8777%/s	8227%/s	7679%/s	6584%/s
4 Target:	12076%/s	11598%/s	10870%/s	10143%/s	8695%/s
5 Target:	15011%/s	14411%/s	13515%/s	12614%/s	10810%/s
6 Target:	17954%/s	17231%/s	16155%/s	15077%/s	12919%/s
7 Target:	20882%/s	20054%/s	18793%/s	17538%/s	15041%/s
8 Target:	23818%/s	22864%/s	21435%/s	20007%/s	17147%/s
9 Target:	26750%/s	25683%/s	24077%/s	22470%/s	19255%/s
10 Target:	29673%/s	28499%/s	26715%/s	24933%/s	21386%/s

 Weapon Speed: Fastest (2)

Defense:	0%	10%	25%	40%	70%
1 Target:	7895%/s	7561%/s	7096%/s	6634%/s	5697%/s
2 Target:	6655%/s	6387%/s	5989%/s	5591%/s	4793%/s
3 Target:	9802%/s	9410%/s	8823%/s	8230%/s	7058%/s
4 Target:	12947%/s	12432%/s	11657%/s	10876%/s	9321%/s
5 Target:	16093%/s	15449%/s	14479%/s	13519%/s	11590%/s
6 Target:	19246%/s	18477%/s	17319%/s	16168%/s	13847%/s
7 Target:	22386%/s	21490%/s	20152%/s	18800%/s	16116%/s
8 Target:	25526%/s	24518%/s	22977%/s	21442%/s	18385%/s
9 Target:	28667%/s	27531%/s	25803%/s	24098%/s	20647%/s
10 Target:	31804%/s	30554%/s	28646%/s	26740%/s	22915%/s

Assumes Threaten has a 40% activation rate.

I need more research on how Judgement works, it's delays, etc before including it. This chart assumes that Noir Carte can only be activated once per attack, not once per critical, and only once regardless of how many monsters (like FA does). Needs more research here.

If anyone has a Shadower on KMS, can they test if you can still cancel the last hit of Assassinate to not use up your KP?