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[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - JPTheMonkey - 2011-07-26

Looks like I don't need to hope for VPQ with Concentration. +1 attack speed on a normal(6) axe doesn't bother me compared to on a fast(5). The attack force bit seems interesting.

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Fiel - 2011-07-26

I didn't forget them. There are a billion and one beginner skills for each class and it's difficult to separate which skills are actually used as a beginner and which aren't. I don't have a KMST account so I can't create a Demon Slayer to find out which skills they use.

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Sorien - 2011-07-26

HighOnMushrooms Wrote:[Image: demonic-blood.png] Demonic Blood: Demons are born with a strong will and overwhelming charisma.
Gives you level 30 Will and Charisma. You have a 100% stance effect.

. . . Again? Really? Tongue

Look, I can deal with the instant +600 health, +60 weapon/magic defense, +6 status resistance, and ability to wear Pocket Items, but why the hell does Nexon feel it's necessary to give Resistance classes fourth job Warrior skills (better versions of them I might add) as early as first job for as little as zero to one Skill Point!?

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - CarrionCrow - 2011-07-26

Sorien Wrote:. . . Again? Really? Tongue

Look, I can deal with the instant +600 health, +60 weapon/magic defense, +6 status resistance, and ability to wear Pocket Items, but why the hell does Nexon feel it's necessary to give Resistance classes fourth job Warrior skills (better versions of them I might add) as early as first job for as little as zero to one Skill Point!?

Yea this irks me too. As a NL all the new classes and revamps have left me at the bottom tier of the pecking order, not only when it comes to DPS but utility too. In the early days i could always say "at least noone can move around a map as fast as my class."

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Takebacker - 2011-07-26

I'd be willing to bet fj is STILL faster than gliding.

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - byakugan - 2011-07-26

Takebacker Wrote:I'd be willing to bet fj is STILL faster than gliding.

Which isn't enough to pick a Night lord over any other job as it stands right now. I'm also in among the people disgusted about DS getting a better skill than ours for the cost of 1/30 part of what we gotta put and as early as 1st job.

This job and Mercedes make all other jobs look outdated, at least graphically.

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - JoeTang - 2011-07-26

Takebacker Wrote:I'd be willing to bet fj is STILL faster than gliding.

We'll find out during release =] Can't wait to see.

It appears Demon Slash recycled the Aran/pre-Big Bang Battle Mage style. There may be more delays than maxForce0 associated with it somewhere. Fiel, can you look into this? It'd be a pretty pathetic skill if each hit were 600ms, and it'd be pretty overpowered early on if it were a total of 600ms.

HighOnMushrooms Wrote:It's Demon Sider D:

I got it as Devil Side, but now that I look at it... Konglish for Devil Scythe?

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Fiel - 2011-07-26

English translations posted. Thank you JoeTang. Chin

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - JoeTang - 2011-07-26

Anyone know what the max amount of Force is? 120?

Also, other delays associated with Demon Slash, Fiel?

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Aggravate - 2011-07-26

Sorien Wrote:. . . Again? Really? Tongue

Look, I can deal with the instant +600 health, +60 weapon/magic defense, +6 status resistance, and ability to wear Pocket Items, but why the hell does Nexon feel it's necessary to give Resistance classes fourth job Warrior skills (better versions of them I might add) as early as first job for as little as zero to one Skill Point!?

>Mech's.

PvPing against 2+ Mech's in Team Match almost sucks ass for the opposition.

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Fiel - 2011-07-26

JoeTang Wrote:Anyone know what the max amount of Force is? 120?

Also, other delays associated with Demon Slash, Fiel?

There are other delays, but there's also a "skipActionFrame" addendum in there, so it's difficult for me to say what the delay surely is. I send you stuff k.

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - HighOnMushrooms - 2011-07-26

JoeTang Wrote:We'll find out during release =] Can't wait to see.

It appears Demon Slash recycled the Aran/pre-Big Bang Battle Mage style. There may be more delays than maxForce0 associated with it somewhere. Fiel, can you look into this? It'd be a pretty pathetic skill if each hit were 600ms, and it'd be pretty overpowered early on if it were a total of 600ms.



I got it as Devil Side, but now that I look at it... Konglish for Devil Scythe?

Oh I mixed up Devil and Demon haha. But it ends with 더 which is 'duh', so Devil Sider seems right. Plus it says that in the data anyways (not that those are usually right but still).

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Blades4hire - 2011-07-26

HighOnMushrooms Wrote:It's Demon Sider D:

This class seems really interesting. By the way Fiel, you missed their beginner skills again.

[Image: devil-wings.png] Devil Wings: You can move quickly using the Devil Wings. (Riding Skill)
150% speed and 120% jump.
[Image: demon-wings.png] Devil Wings: Devil Wings: You can move quickly using the Devil Wings. (Riding Skill)
190% speed and 120% jump.
You can move quickly using the Devil Wings.
[Image: demon-jump.png] Demon Jump: The The Devil Wings can be used in a variety of jump skills (high jump, double jump, glide).
High jump: jump + ↑↑, double jump: jump + →→ or ←←, glide: jump while in the air
[Image: demons-fury.png] Demon's Fury: When attacking bosses, your inner rage increases your damage and additional Force is absorbed. (Link Skill)
10% boss damage and an additional 5 Force is replenished.
[Image: demonic-blood.png] Demonic Blood: Demons are born with a strong will and overwhelming charisma.
Gives you level 30 Will and Charisma. You have a 100% stance effect.
[Image: death-cut.png] Death Cut: There is a chance of instant death when attacking an enemy. When the target is instantly killed, you replenish HP and Force.
5% chance of instant death when attacking. If the effect activates, replenish 5% HP and 5 Force.

Those are the most insane beginner skis I have ever seen o.o
A free mount, 100% stance, lvl 30 willpower and charisma(charm?),double jump, high jump, the ability to fly, +10% boss damage, and 5% insta kill chance on any non boss mob in the game. All this before even the first job advancement o.o
Or do they start at lvl 10 like Mercedes?

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Bribery - 2011-07-26

These get 100% Stance, 30% Guard, AND 80% status resistance all before 4th job? They better have horrible DPS...

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Alilatias - 2011-07-26

Blades4hire Wrote:Those are the most insane beginner skis I have ever seen o.o
A free mount, 100% stance, lvl 30 willpower and charisma(charm?),double jump, high jump, the ability to fly, +10% boss damage, and 5% insta kill chance on any non boss mob in the game. All this before even the first job advancement o.o
Or do they start at lvl 10 like Mercedes?

Charisma is Ambition. So basically Mercedes gets immediate pocket slot access right off the bat (everyone save your Rose Clippings), and Demon Slayer gets +600 max HP along with a crapton of other stuff. Max hasn't mentioned anything about Demon Slayer's beginner skills having any skill levels, so I'd think it'd be safe to assume that he'd be like Mercedes in that he may start at a later level as well.

Hm... I almost wonder if some kind of beginner revamp is going to occur. All of this is just really, really unfair. Mercedes and Demon Slayer get Beginner skills that are useful all the time (and in the case of Demonic Blood, is more useful than the other Warrior's FOURTH JOB counterpart), while every other class gets beginner skills that become useless almost immediately after advancing into 1st job.

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Sorien - 2011-07-26

Alilatias Wrote:Charisma is Ambition. So basically Mercedes gets immediate pocket slot access right off the bat (everyone save your Rose Clippings), and Demon Slayer gets +600 max HP along with a crapton of other stuff. Max hasn't mentioned anything about Demon Slayer's beginner skills having any skill levels, so I'd think it'd be safe to assume that he'd be like Mercedes in that he may start at a later level as well.

Hm... I almost wonder if some kind of beginner revamp is going to occur. All of this is just really, really unfair. Mercedes and Demon Slayer get Beginner skills that are useful all the time (and in the case of Demonic Blood, is more useful than the other Warrior's FOURTH JOB counterpart), while every other class gets beginner skills that become useless almost immediately after advancing into 1st job.

You know what, I'm bored so I think I'll go and make a Maple Additions thread about that!

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - IllegallySane - 2011-07-26

HighOnMushrooms Wrote:It's Demon Sider D:

This class seems really interesting. By the way Fiel, you missed their beginner skills again.

[Image: devil-wings.png] Devil Wings: You can move quickly using the Devil Wings. (Riding Skill)
150% speed and 120% jump.
[Image: demon-wings.png] Devil Wings: Devil Wings: You can move quickly using the Devil Wings. (Riding Skill)
190% speed and 120% jump.
You can move quickly using the Devil Wings.
[Image: demon-jump.png] Demon Jump: The The Devil Wings can be used in a variety of jump skills (high jump, double jump, glide).
High jump: jump + ↑↑, double jump: jump + →→ or ←←, glide: jump while in the air
[Image: demons-fury.png] Demon's Fury: When attacking bosses, your inner rage increases your damage and additional Force is absorbed. (Link Skill)
10% boss damage and an additional 5 Force is replenished.
[Image: demonic-blood.png] Demonic Blood: Demons are born with a strong will and overwhelming charisma.
Gives you level 30 Will and Charisma. You have a 100% stance effect.
[Image: death-cut.png] Death Cut: There is a chance of instant death when attacking an enemy. When the target is instantly killed, you replenish HP and Force.
5% chance of instant death when attacking. If the effect activates, replenish 5% HP and 5 Force.

This.... is their beginner skills?

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[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - JoeTang - 2011-07-26

In the 3100 skill data, you can see the placeholder they have for Demon Slash's 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hits, and their associated delays maxForce1, maxForce2, and maxForce3. They have double swing icons I guess to show their intent with the mechanics to be identical to Aran's attacks.
These add up to, with maxForce0, 600ms, 600ms, 480ms, 600ms in order. This seemingly gives them 285.1%/s per monster in first job, and ends up being a horrible 755.5%/s in 4th job before booster unless the strengthening skills are additive, which is not a significant difference. I'll be sure to double check this when they go live.

Also, there appears to have been a typo in Force Guard's translation batch =[ My bad.

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - Blades4hire - 2011-07-26

Sorien Wrote:You know what, I'm bored so I think I'll go and make a Maple Additions thread about that!

Watch the beginner revamp come before the pirate and thief revamp.
inb4 takebacker rage

[Legend] [Resistance] Demon Slayer - ShinkuDragon - 2011-07-27

Blades4hire Wrote:Watch the beginner revamp come before the pirate and thief revamp.
inb4 takebacker rage

at this point, i'd say we are at the "in during rage" part, that would be more of an aftershock.

also, as far as i know, ambition=/=pocket slot, that's charm