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Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Tykian - 2009-01-03
I'll be honest, I leeched a couple levels in early 6x, just under 3. To me, I can already play my character fine, and im not leeching all the way up, but now that i've played my character around and leveled it a bunch, I know all my skills ill use for training now, so I'm more interested to get to 3rd job skills. I doubt I'll leech anymore though, its expensive.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Hazzy - 2009-01-03
NoJobNoRules Wrote:Not to mention the fact that anyone who does leech will have no freaking clue how to play their own character effectively, so they will probably fail at really training when they need to and quit. Not to mention the fact that they'll suck at bossing and be idiotic about it. <_<
Only if 1)they're morons or 2) they leech from 30 to 120.
I think there's plenty of people who could pick up a 4th job character and handle it well in less than a week. Most of the people too moronic to do that probably don't have the money to leech most of their levels. :f6: I really doubt most leechers leech from 70 to 120 without training at all. Not saying no one does, but I doubt they're a majority.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Kabanaw - 2009-01-03
Hazzy Wrote:Only if 1)they're morons or 2) they leech from 30 to 120.
I think there's plenty of people who could pick up a 4th job character and handle it well in less than a week. Most of the people too moronic to do that probably don't have the money to leech most of their levels. :f6: I really doubt most leechers leech from 70 to 120 without training at all. Not saying no one does, but I doubt they're a majority.
Yeah, some only leech from 70-119 with 99.98% :o
But seriously, if someone wants to leech a few levels, that's fine. But if your leeching for 20 levels + that's rediculous.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - ItzTaylor - 2009-01-03
Leeching is legit.
That's like saying partying and sharing exp is illegit.
People just stand against it because they believe you should earn your levels.
I believe you should play the game you want, leech if you want to leech, don't if you don't want to, but don't look down on other who leeched, because you could have too. And if you couldn't leech cause 4th job wasn't out, Power to ya, been there done that.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Bribery - 2009-01-03
Leeching is legit. Period.
I have no problems with those who leech for a few reasons:
- It's not cheap. If they've spent the time or NX (by NX, I mean used gach/mts/meso bag to earn meso, not offering NX to buy leech) to earn the meso for it, they've at least put some effort into the game.
- If they never trained their character at all from 30-120, they're probably going to find out that they don't like the character and thus wasted time/meso leeching.
- Some people (myself included) already have a 4th job character and don't wish to do the same thing over again. Some people also have access to a Bishop/Arch Mage that they can use to leech themselves.
I admit, I did leech most of the levels on my Corsair but I used my Bishop to do it. It took me about 2 years to reach level 120 on my Bishop and I was level 130 when 4th job came out. I didn't want to go through that crap again. Plus, there were a few times where a friend was willing to train me using my Bishop so in those instances I was attacking on my Pirate. I can control my character just fine and I'm enjoying every moment on it.
Maple Story is a fun game but it is really repetitive. I can see why people want to leech through a few levels because it simply gets boring at times.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - KissMark - 2009-01-03
I was against leeching at first because all the bishops weren't really training. It was pretty frustrating looking for a bishop to train with but then again I realized if you're already 17x there's really no point of training anymore unless you plan on leveling to 200.
The people who spam smegas "B>LEECH" are the ones who are annoying and the people who are leeching at level 14x, that's just shameful. I'm against them
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Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Tamillan - 2009-01-03
I dont understand why people dont like leeching. I mean whats the difference between training and leeching? Leeching you are afk and training you are not. If people could afford leeching go for it. If people want to earn mesos by selling leech, thats fine too. There is nothing wrong in buying or selling leech. It isn't like your hacking or scaming or using bad language. You are just afking and people are training you. Thats it! Thats all!
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Harrisonized - 2009-01-04
LoL, I was just reading another anti-leeching thread and since I found this thread, I'll ask here too:
What's so morally wrong about leeching. Even if it is, if it happens, it happens. Prostitution happens and it might be morally wrong, but you and the prostitute are different people thus what gives you the right to stop that person from being a prostitute?
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Kabanaw - 2009-01-04
I'm just gunna say this right now:
Trading in-game items and currency for leeching- legit, but I still don't like it.
Trading NX for leech - illigit because you're trading NX for a service, which I believe is against the ToS.
And as for not having to get a character up to 120 again: Why would you find getting to 120 so bothersome? I love leveling up my secondary characters. Seeing their damage get higher and their skills get better just makes me happy
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Deviant - 2009-01-04
Harrisonized Wrote:LoL, I was just reading another anti-leeching thread and since I found this thread, I'll ask here too:
What's so morally wrong about leeching. Even if it is, if it happens, it happens. Prostitution happens and it might be morally wrong, but you and the prostitute are different people thus what gives you the right to stop that person from being a prostitute?
Nothing is wrong with leeching so long as the mesos used within the transaction are legit, the only people who really have a problem with it for the most part are pppl2pass people. Anyway, while it isnt the way the game should be played, its technically not against the terms of service, and since that is the constitution by which Maplestory is run, people cant just go setting up their own guidelines of whats legit and what isnt.
Edit;
In short;
Kabanaw Wrote:Trading in-game items and currency for leeching- legit, but I still don't like it.
lol
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Devil - 2009-01-04
All you have to do these days to get to lvl 120+ is:
Assuming you get 50% per hour Genesis leeching -on avg with 2x exp- (lvl 70~120), which is rather low...:
- 50 levels (lvl 70~120) * 2 = 100 hours
- Total proces takes you 100 hours = 100*5m = 500m mesos
- Meso/NX ratio is about 1/4, so you need 125k NX
- 100/4 (hours of 2x exp) = 25 days
- Buy 1x a 30 day 2x exp card - 19k nx
Total cost of getting to lvl 120 = 125+119 = 144k NX
You'll get there in less then 1 month.
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If you use a 2x exp event to leech, the price will only be like 75+19= 94k NX
Euro / Dollar is 1.3844
94/1.3844 = 68 Euro's to get yourself leeched from 70~120 while afking and watching movies for two weeks...
That's quite cheap...
(For those who didn't get it, this post was meant sarcasticly)
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Blake - 2009-01-07
I don't really mind either way. Every so often I help friends by leeching them for a little bit. The other day I helped one get from 78-80 during the 2x event. She wanted to wear her new Sword, and I was bored. So I agreed to help her out. It was only a couple hours, and I made a few Mesos even without her paying me.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Thunda - 2009-01-19
Quote:Trading in-game items and currency for leeching- legit, but I still don't like it.
Trading NX for leech - illigit because you're trading NX for a service, which I believe is against the ToS.
Sorry if this is semi-necroposting, but-
NX = mesos now. Even though technically, in the ToS, NX for services is illegit, you can buy mesos with NX now, so what's the point?
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - alwzn4vr - 2009-01-20
First off, some comments in this thread make it sound like everyone who leeches won't know how to play this game at higher levels. That's a bit silly as we don't know if the leecher already has a high level char. He/she might even be leeching their own char.
Frankly leeching is deemed to be legit by Nexon. Therefore if you choose to leech and you're paying with legitimately earned/paid mesos then good for you.
I realize that a lot of long time players may get annoyed that these players haven't spent [insert arbitrarily long time frame] grinding to 4th job on [insert old school map/mob like Z4] but that's the way the game has evolved.
If you're an archmage/bishop selling leech, again good for you. This game is enough of a grindfest, the faster you get people leveled up the sooner they can start bossing which is really the key part in maple. (For me anyways)
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Derimed - 2009-01-20
I am not going to lie, when I make a new character, I'll use my Bishop to leech him as much as possible. However, since it's me grinding and leeching my own character, I don't think anyone will complain, and if they do that's just wonderful. :XD
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Berzerk - 2009-01-20
I'll do what I want with me mesos, and you do what you want with yours. Thank you very much. =]
Regarding weather or not it's "legit" in other peoples eyes, I couldn't give a pomegranate what people think of what I'm doing.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Derimed - 2009-01-20
Berzerk Wrote:I'll do what I want with me mesos, and you do what you want with yours. Thank you very much. =]
Regarding weather or not it's "legit" in other peoples eyes, I couldn't give a pomegranate what people think of what I'm doing.
Well, that's true of everyone, but it gets a bit annoying when some of the legits start calling you names. In other words you get drama, which is really the fastest way to stop having fun in Maple.
In this case I agree... as long as you earned your mesos in a manner other than hacking or scamming, (or something derived from it,) if you're buying leech people should leave you alone.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-01-20
Quantact Wrote:Well, that's true of everyone, but it gets a bit annoying when some of the legits start calling you names. In other words you get drama, which is really the fastest way to stop having fun in Maple.
In this case I agree... as long as you earned your mesos in a manner other than hacking or scamming, (or something derived from it,) if you're buying leech people should leave you alone.
Drama is so easily startable it's not even funny. You can just go to someone and say "Your guild hacks/scams" or just swear at them, and it'll start drama.
Just brush it off if people start calling you names.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Trystan28 - 2009-01-21
Quantact Wrote:I am not going to lie, when I make a new character, I'll use my Bishop to leech him as much as possible. However, since it's me grinding and leeching my own character, I don't think anyone will complain, and if they do that's just wonderful. :XD
That to me, isn't such a problem because their YOUR characters, YOU are the one doing the work. It's the ones who pay for 8-10 hours of leech while they're at school that bug me. The ones who one day you're congratulating on making 3rd job, and a day later, they're nearing 100. :\
It really just drives a further wedge between the super-funded and the unfunded.
Legitimacy when it comes to leeching? - Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-01-22
I just get it off friends or do it myself with my chars/friend chars. Never afk though or maybe once or twice.