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Ask a Thief Thread. - Matty - 2008-08-18

If you love your guild....stay.
Zakum with another guild or buddys, but stay in your guild :3

Im Level 29 now everyone.
I chose to max Double Stab first.
So for 2nd job, Mastery or Savage Blow first? Explain.


Ask a Thief Thread. - Acim - 2008-08-19

Both are good. If you're CPQing, it goes so fast it doesn't even matter.

I chose Mastery first, but that's me. According to calculations BEFORE level 1 SB was 4 hits, (aka when it was 2 hits), Mastery was more powerful than SB-first around 30~37(somewhere around there) and SB first was less powerful until 37ish. It all ends up the same anyways.

If I could do it all again, I'd go SB first, but the choice is yours.


Ask a Thief Thread. - Matty - 2008-08-19

Mkay, I chose SB.
Its one of th reasons many become a bandit, and I love it.
Of course imma max mastery next to its all good.
And at level 35....FINALLY...... a new weapon = Korean Fan <3
My friend is giving me one :3


Ask a Thief Thread. - Corn - 2008-08-19

^Get mastery at level 1 when you reach level 30 Wink

1 point and an extra 20% mastery? Win.


Ask a Thief Thread. - Matty - 2008-08-19

Oh are you positive?
If so next level (33) just put one point into mastery?
Answer quickly please D:

P.S: Thanks to Autumn and Claw for all your help.


Ask a Thief Thread. - Corn - 2008-08-19

Yeah just put one point. You will still max savage blow at level 40 anyways.

Oh, and it was 15%, not 20%. Still 3 times more than if you increase mastery to another point.

Edit: Was this quick enough XD?


Ask a Thief Thread. - Matty - 2008-08-19

3 minutes.......can I fame you plox? <3
Thanks so much!
Also what levl SB should I start using it other then DS?


Ask a Thief Thread. - Matty - 2008-08-20

Im mad at you Claw -_-
I added one sp to Mastery.....to find out every level = 15%
Thanks alot D:

double post....sorrys


Ask a Thief Thread. - Kabanaw - 2008-08-20

Personally, I maxed mastery first on my lvl 42 bandit, and am now working on SB. Since I also have lvl 6 booster, that means I att faster, and by my calculations a bandit with SB should be doing a little more dmg, but mine's more stable and faster. By level 19, 5 hits X 58% dmg = 290%, making that the level where it's more powerful. At 18, it's equal.


Ask a Thief Thread. - Acim - 2008-08-20

Matty Wrote:Also what levl SB should I start using it other then DS?

Maxed Double Stab is 140% damage times 2 (Nexon made it better), aka 280% damage

Level 1 SB is some percent x 4. It would need to be 70% to match up with Double Stab. Unless Nexon changed it, every level SB goes up 2% damage, with max at 80%. So, unless Nexon changed SB, like I said, Level 18 SB would equal DS, an level 19 would be more powerful.

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Ask a Thief Thread. - Matty - 2008-08-20

Lol, thanks Autumn <3
So by level 36/37 Ill start using SB more.
I regret that 1 point into mastery....>_>....(ClawOfBeta)


Ask a Thief Thread. - Corn - 2008-08-20

What? Here's the table (or part of) O_O.

Level 1: Dagger mastery 15%, accuracy +1
Level 2: Dagger mastery 15%, accuracy +2
Level 3: Dagger mastery 20%, accuracy +3
Level 4: Dagger mastery 20%, accuracy +4
Level 5: Dagger mastery 25%, accuracy +5
Level 6: Dagger mastery 25%, accuracy +6
Level 7: Dagger mastery 30%, accuracy +7
Level 8: Dagger mastery 30%, accuracy +8
Level 9: Dagger mastery 35%, accuracy +9
Level 10: Dagger mastery 35%, accuracy +10
Level 11: Dagger mastery 40%, accuracy +11
Level 12: Dagger mastery 40%, accuracy +12

The first point gives you 15% =O. If you add another point it'll only add 0-5%...
Besides, you'll still max savage blow at level 40. I'm confused...

Oh, and at level 18 savage blow is slightly weaker if you calculate the monster's defense.


Ask a Thief Thread. - Matty - 2008-08-20

Ohhhh now i get it!!!
Sorry Claw D: thanks so much!
At Level 37 imma start using SB instead of DS.
Ok so after I max SB.....max mastery right?


Ask a Thief Thread. - Acim - 2008-08-20

ClawofBeta Wrote:Oh, and at level 18 savage blow is slightly slower if you calculate the monster's defense.

I was just going to say. =\

And yes, 1 mastery isn't a bad decision. 15% mastery for 1 point = yus?

EDIT: A typical/my bandit build is as follows:

1 point in Mastery -> max SB -> max mastery -> 6 booster -> max haste. The rest goes into steal/endure. I'd max endure, hanging on ropes for MP is good.

I probably messed up on that build a bit (my brain is fried), confirmation please?


Ask a Thief Thread. - Corn - 2008-08-20

Matty Wrote:Ohhhh now i get it!!!
Sorry Claw D: thanks so much!
At Level 37 imma start using SB instead of DS.
Ok so after I max SB.....max mastery right?

Whew, I was nervous there for a second.

Yeah I suppose max mastery since savage blow will be pretty unstable, but then again, I'm not a bandit.
Acim Wrote:I was just going to say. =\

And yes, 1 mastery isn't a bad decision. 15% mastery for 1 point = yus?

EDIT: A typical/my bandit build is as follows:

1 point in Mastery -> max SB -> max mastery -> 6 booster -> max haste. The rest goes into steal/endure. I'd max endure, hanging on ropes for MP is good.

I probably messed up on that build a bit (my brain is fried), confirmation please?

Endure>steal.
I'd say max booser then put the rest into endure (coming from a sin).


Ask a Thief Thread. - ahoboandahal - 2008-08-20

How have you guys all managed to be wrong about mastery in a row? Base mastery is 10%, look it up on hidden-streets damage calculator. Every 2 levels of mastery gives you 5 percent mastery.


Ask a Thief Thread. - Corn - 2008-08-20

Oh..eh...heh..heh....Frown Sorry Matty.


Ask a Thief Thread. - Matty - 2008-08-20

Thanks Autum and Claw for everything.
But I must say.
Max Savage Blow > Max Mastery > 6 Booster > Max Haste > Max Booster > Steal

Endure will/always be useless....atleast Steal does somthing :3

EDIT: Actually...........WRONG......I have one point in mastery: 15% Mastery, +1 Accuracy.


Ask a Thief Thread. - Corn - 2008-08-20

Steal is worthless, but I forgot how (not a bandit).


Ask a Thief Thread. - Acim - 2008-08-20

ClawofBeta Wrote:Endure>steal.
I'd say max booser then put the rest into endure (coming from a sin).

Totally forgot about that.
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