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[1.2.364] PVP is here! - SaptaZapta - 2011-01-12
Satellite Wrote:A lot of people were complaining that in the trailer/logging screen image, there is no adventurers. Well, this is probably cause there is no clear character representing Adventurer class. Since Aran came out, it has been otherwise.
Doesn't have to be "the archetypical adventurer" to be recognizable. You can't mistake a DK, with zerk and beholder and spear, for anything else. Or a Corsair in his ship. You know what, if they'd had a ninja throwing stars around, I wouldn't much care that I couldn't tell if it's an NL or NW. The fact that they have absolutely no reference to any of the "older" classes is what galls.
Not too surprising, though. Recall that in the Visitor event, all "future maplers" were Cygnus Knights, and the bosses were Aran and Evan? Nexon's opinion of the place of traditional Adventurers is pretty clear. None of them have any chance in this PvP anyway.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - IImaplers - 2011-01-12
Music sounds kinda like circus elevator music to me.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Abysseon - 2011-01-12
More PVP vids:
[video=youtube;9RXjYqbIFjQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RXjYqbIFjQ[/video]
[video=youtube;HQGOv6cWrxQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQGOv6cWrxQ[/video]
[video=youtube;EZ4mjLXfOMs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ4mjLXfOMs[/video]
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Viaje - 2011-01-12
SaptaZapta Wrote:Doesn't have to be "the archetypical adventurer" to be recognizable. You can't mistake a DK, with zerk and beholder and spear, for anything else. Or a Corsair in his ship. You know what, if they'd had a ninja throwing stars around, I wouldn't much care that I couldn't tell if it's an NL or NW. The fact that they have absolutely no reference to any of the "older" classes is what galls.Or maybe they used those four because they've arrived at the conclusion that those are the most popular classes? Or maybe, like in any company, the developers have little to no influence on videos like this, and someone in the marketing department thought those four would look best in the video. Naw, must be a conspiracy.
Not too surprising, though. Recall that in the Visitor event, all "future maplers" were Cygnus Knights, and the bosses were Aran and Evan? Nexon's opinion of the place of traditional Adventurers is pretty clear. None of them have any chance in this PvP anyway.
My advice would be not to over analyze a silly promo video.
By the way, I don't "recall" that all the Visitors were Cygnus Knights since, well, they sure as hell weren't.
Last I checked, there isn't a Cygnus Knight that uses 2H Axes. Or guns. Or crossbows. Or were called "clerics".
I also think I would remember an alien with a dragon.
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=30313&prefixid=GMS
Would you like to say any more utter bullpomegranate?
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Maping - 2011-01-12
@SaptaZapta: Not even that. Any body with even one ranged skill could beat anybody without one (paladin, warrior, ect.). H'ell, even a level 5 could defeat a range-less (if he could get in (don't you have to be level 30?)) if he had even one skill point in crystal throw by simply going, if he had enough time and patience, "attack, attack, run to edge of you range when he gets close, repeat for hours at a time till a level 5 has defeated a level 200. [insert troll face here]."
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - vx-2 - 2011-01-12
@ those pvp vids.... but... too messy thou...
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Aslay1 - 2011-01-12
That bucc in 2nd video was pwning lol, this seens very fun but still some fixes, hopefully nexonK make this more compatible/balanced.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - CommanderJinn - 2011-01-12
I loled at the aran, dying every 5 seconds. It also seems like DBs still kill everyone in nearly one hit and mechs seem to easily kill people too.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Abysseon - 2011-01-12
CommanderJinn Wrote:I loled at the aran, dying every 5 seconds. It also seems like DBs still kill everyone in nearly one hit and mechs seem to easily kill people too.
From spadow playing pvp:
Quote:Speaking of PvP, I really dont know if it is gonna work in MapleStory. First it was the Striker, Wildhunter and Mechanic job who were really overpowered in PvP.
There was an update recently that added new PvP maps and changed the Battle Square entrance. So I just got off from a PvP match with a majority of Night Lords playing and wow..
I entered the map and I get killed by a Night Lord throwing stars at me. After three seconds I resurrect and then I try to escape but no success because another Night Lord throws stars at me EXCELLENT!!, EXCELLENT!!, EXCELLENT!!. This is really messed up The PvP patch is just a few days away. -_-;;
I wonder how they're going to fix the multiple hitting ability of ranged classes...
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - HighOnMushrooms - 2011-01-12
Examples of PvP exp rewards:
Spoiler
![[Image: r0c8cm.jpg]](http://i55.tinypic.com/r0c8cm.jpg)
![[Image: 34g7kph.jpg]](http://i51.tinypic.com/34g7kph.jpg)
![[Image: rvvhps.jpg]](http://i56.tinypic.com/rvvhps.jpg)
![[Image: 2rwrq6o.jpg]](http://i52.tinypic.com/2rwrq6o.jpg)
![[Image: 2wh2r1s.jpg]](http://i53.tinypic.com/2wh2r1s.jpg)
![[Image: 25rmrm8.jpg]](http://i55.tinypic.com/25rmrm8.jpg)
From what I see, your exp adds up:
Score EXP (based on your score)
W/L EXP (based on your win/lose ratio)
Playtime EXP (I don't know this one)
Champion EXP (if you're in the top 3)
Also, as you can see, a Knight (WK) got into the top 3 in the first few screenshots.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - FenixR - 2011-01-12
If they want PVP to really work they should:
A-Reduce the range a ranged class can hit you (Like half or something) or
B-Reduce the damage a ranged class do, that way non ranged classes could get a chance to cut the distance.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Schrono - 2011-01-12
dante9898 Wrote:If they want PVP to really work they should:
A-Reduce the range a ranged class can hit you (Like half or something) or
B-Reduce the damage a ranged class do, that way non ranged classes could get a chance to cut the distance.
This should depend on how mobile the ranged character is.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - FenixR - 2011-01-13
Not so much.
Ranged class should take a helluva of a time trying to bring down Close combat classes because they have both Range and Mobility on their side.
But then again DB enter the room and pomegranate gets broken
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Dark Zero - 2011-01-13
Music of PVP A = CASTLEVANIA MUSIC!!!!
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Takebacker - 2011-01-13
HighOnMushrooms Wrote:Examples of PvP exp rewards:
Spoiler
From what I see, your exp adds up:
Score EXP (based on your score)
W/L EXP (based on your win/lose ratio)
Playtime EXP (I don't know this one)
Champion EXP (if you're in the top 3)
Also, as you can see, a Knight (WK) got into the top 3 in the first few screenshots.
Jesus christ, 1.6m for a 151? Looks like i'm going to enjoy this more than i thought.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - FenixR - 2011-01-13
Takebacker Wrote:Jesus christ, 1.6m for a 151? Looks like i'm going to enjoy this more than i thought.
inb4 the nerfing of the exp.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Fiel - 2011-01-13
I don't think the EXP will be that enormous. It's probably because the EXP you get is affected by server multipliers on EXP. As such, with it being Tespia, the numbers are outrageous.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Takebacker - 2011-01-13
But even 1.6m shouldn't make training off PvP better than LHC or normal mobs for a 151, and a number like that could take more or less effort than we think it does. We need more match data to be sure.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - Link - 2011-01-13
Fiel Wrote:I don't think the EXP will be that enormous. It's probably because the EXP you get is affected by server multipliers on EXP. As such, with it being Tespia, the numbers are outrageous.
The experience gained MAY be level-based. If that's the case, that may be the proper allotted experience value. I don't think it'll give 1.6m experience for a win to a level... let's say 30, who happened to be on a team that won.
[1.2.364] PVP is here! - FenixR - 2011-01-13
ShiKage Wrote:The experience gained MAY be level-based. If that's the case, that may be the proper allotted experience value. I don't think it'll give 1.6m experience for a win to a level... let's say 30, who happened to be on a team that won.
1.6m for a lvl 151 for just 1 win is still outrageous. Whats the point of training if Arena would give that kind of Exp O.o.
Well it also depends how much time per round too, but still im with fiel, Tespia = Higher Exp than normal.