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Things to do before Big Bang - byakugan - 2010-10-28

MetaSeraphim Wrote:Unless you're playing JMS you won't be losing 2x cards when Big Bang comes around.

That is a supposition on your part. Even though I also doubt Nexon NA is taking them out, I'm willing to bet they will change them somehow.


Things to do before Big Bang - ODERS - 2010-10-28

Zendaine Wrote:Brandish 20 (which turns into Brave Slash 20) was really hard for me to find once Big Bang came out in KMS. I think Brandish 20 is pretty rare even before Big Bang though...

Does this mean that if we have Brandish 30 already we will have Brave Slash 30 after Big Bang already? This was a worry for me because other classes would already have their main attacking skill because it had not changed.

Also, is Combat Mastery 20/30 a fairly common book?


Things to do before Big Bang - Arrg - 2010-10-28

Satellite Wrote:Wait what? Why would this happen? As far as I know Aran books still drop from Zakum (unfortunately). Besides, zakum will be piece of cake after BB, no?.

Only skillbooks drop from zakum post-bb. Mastery books from pianus, pap, and zakum are all removed.


Things to do before Big Bang - Combattente - 2010-10-28

byakugan Wrote:That is a supposition on your part. Even though I also doubt Nexon NA is taking them out, I'm willing to bet they will change them somehow.

1.5x cards, anyone?

This is a likely supposition, considering they also changed family 2x to 1.5x.


Things to do before Big Bang - Fiel - 2010-10-28

Thought it was 1.2x?


Things to do before Big Bang - Combattente - 2010-10-28

Fiel Wrote:Thought it was 1.2x?

I thought the current 1.5x got changed to 1.2x and 2x got changed to 1.5x.

My bad then.


Things to do before Big Bang - MetaSeraphim - 2010-10-28

byakugan Wrote:That is a supposition on your part.

No more than assuming they get taken out just because JMS did it.


Things to do before Big Bang - Arrg - 2010-10-28

Combattente Wrote:I thought the current 1.5x got changed to 1.2x and 2x got changed to 1.5x.

My bad then.

All self-buffs turned to 1.2x, party 2x was removed entirely (no party 1.2x), but Family Bonding changed to 1.5x. Family Bonding is the highest exp buff kmsers can get aside from events.


Things to do before Big Bang - Coogi - 2010-10-28

MetaSeraphim Wrote:Unless Nexon get's Nuked you won't be losing 2x cards when Big Bang comes around.

Fixed for ya.


Things to do before Big Bang - PirateIzzy - 2010-10-29

Arrg Wrote:All self-buffs turned to 1.2x, party 2x was removed entirely (no party 1.2x), but Family Bonding changed to 1.5x. Family Bonding is the highest exp buff kmsers can get aside from events.

Good luck getting Family Bonding then.


Things to do before Big Bang - CourageLess - 2010-10-29

One quick question, will the value of wa20 Maple Shield drop after BB / potential? :f6:


Things to do before Big Bang - Solarboy - 2010-10-29

CourageLess Wrote:One quick question, will the value of wa20 Maple Shield drop after BB / potential? :f6:

Again, potential is allready in GMS, and no, it will stay at the same high price.


Things to do before Big Bang - CourageLess - 2010-10-29

Solarboy Wrote:Again, potential is allready in GMS, and no, it will stay at the same high price.

Ohright thanks for clearing my doubt.
I was thinking that higher level 3-lined shields will be better than the current wa20 shield and thought of selling off my shield for some cash before potential hits msea.


Things to do before Big Bang - ¬Rob - 2010-10-29

Solarboy Wrote:Again, potential is allready in GMS, and no, it will stay at the same high price.
It's dropped a bit due to potential. o_O I remember 16atk shields being 200~300m more than it currently is before we got potential.


Things to do before Big Bang - MetaSeraphim - 2010-10-29

Coogi Wrote:Fixed for ya.

More like.

2x cards getting taken out of GMS will only happen if Nexon decides they have made too much money and closes down the Cash Shop.

CourageLess Wrote:Ohright thanks for clearing my doubt.
I was thinking that higher level 3-lined shields will be better than the current wa20 shield and thought of selling off my shield for some cash before potential hits msea.

High leveled 3-lined shields will be better than 20 attack shields depending on it's level. If it's a maple shield either the low level or the high level one would get curb stomped by either a 71+ or 121+ shield.


Things to do before Big Bang - iamflip - 2010-10-29

B> Pirate equipment for 1 meso each. Rolleyes

...because in terms of new class releases, I'm only looking forward to Mechanics.

As for everything else, I think I've said it in a similar thread to this, but there really isn't much to prepare for Big Bang. I'll just have to wait and see what happens.


Things to do before Big Bang - larmie - 2010-10-29

interim report: There is a logistical problem for obtaining large amounts of MBs and weapons/equip. The former requires 1 consume slot for each MB (which is sold for less than 100k, virtually free) so even if I make a new account and use all 7 char slots, that's 7 x 28 (=196) MBs per ID. I'm not sure if it's worth creating dozens of mule IDs to store hundreds of (currently) worthless MBs (unless some of them are guaranteed to skyrocket in price; FM info from KMS post-BB will be very helpful). Equipment is very hard to assess as potential hasn't really settled into the fabric of JMS economy yet (potential was introduced last month) and prices wildly fluctuate even now. I undersold a visitor belt by 100m today because prices shot up in the past week. So far I got 6 skill books (chain hell, advanced charge, flame wheel, dark fog, final slash and final blow) which cost less than the meso equivalent of karma scissors right now. I'll start doing solo pap runs saturday.


Things to do before Big Bang - SaptaZapta - 2010-10-29

MetaSeraphim Wrote:High leveled 3-lined shields will be better than 20 attack shields depending on it's level. If it's a maple shield either the low level or the high level one would get curb stomped by either a 71+ or 121+ shield.

True, but not easily.

Going by the fact that a clean 3% str cape gave me almost exactly the same damage as a 4 attack PAC, I figure I would need a 15% STR unscrolled shield to replace a 20 attack one. Or a combination, say scrolled for 8 attack and cubed for 9% STR, or scrolled for 12 attack and cubed for 6% str. Possible, but not easy/cheap.
So, an already existing 20 attack shield is still quite valuable. But if one were going to create a new attack shield, a high level one might be a better starting point because it can, with plenty of money and luck, become much stronger.


Things to do before Big Bang - CourageLess - 2010-10-29

MetaSeraphim Wrote:High leveled 3-lined shields will be better than 20 attack shields depending on it's level. If it's a maple shield either the low level or the high level one would get curb stomped by either a 71+ or 121+ shield.
Which brings me back to my first question, whether it'll be worth it to sell off the 20 attack shield for cash to cube items in the future, - if the price will fall by that time.
Especially when a 3-lined shield can beat it.


Things to do before Big Bang - Typhoon - 2010-10-29

CourageLess Wrote:Which brings me back to my first question, whether it'll be worth it to sell off the 20 attack shield for cash to cube items in the future, - if the price will fall by that time.
Especially when a 3-lined shield can beat it.
the price of it right now is the highest it will be. im not saying it's going to deflate because nobody can see the future, but it will certainly not inflate. i know in Broa theres a 23atk shield that's been sitting in a shop for 1.7 not sold with an offer of 1.5 for over a week.