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Chaos HT Pendant - Kaasoljoyyx - 2010-08-24

Matt just quit, you misinterpreted the information. What it is referring to is

job adv for 121+ = 4

so 3*4 = 12%

For 71-120, it's 3
so 3*3 = 9%

Likewise for 3*2 = 6% and 3*1 = 3%

Again, the most likely situation is primary, secondary, (secondary). 3rd bonus doesn't always happen if you got only 2 lines.

That's why all the mass cubers usually end up with 21% from 9/6/6 since getting 2 9%'s is rare.

So the most common for a 121+ gear is 12% + 8% (+8%) or 28%. Even just getting 2 bonus is great since it's 20%, only 1 % away from a 9/6/6 which is common to get, but hard to get 3 of the same stat, while it's easier to land 2 of the same stat.

Chaos HT Pendant - Stereo - 2010-08-24

How about some pictorial proof that level 10 items can have 3 lines... Tongue

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Chaos HT Pendant - Erich - 2010-08-24

Stereo Wrote:How about some pictorial proof that level 10 items can have 3 lines... Tongue

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I had quite a few myself.

Chaos HT Pendant - Dusk - 2010-08-24

Yeah, so anyway, 12/8 vs. 9/6. 5% main stat = maybe 50, 60 stats for a very high level character. CHTP wins.

Chaos HT Pendant - Kabanaw - 2010-08-24

Dusk Wrote:Yeah, so anyway, 12/8 vs. 9/6. 5% main stat = maybe 50, 60 stats for a very high level character. CHTP wins.

If the 4 egg glitch keeps up, yeah.

Chaos HT Pendant - Dusk - 2010-08-24

Kabanaw Wrote:If the 4 egg glitch keeps up, yeah.

2-egg CHTP = 2 attack 80 stats
VIPP = 20 stats

You can even chaos the CHTP if that's not good enough. What's so hard about this =/ 10% HP/MP enough to convince you? CHTP is pretty much better than VIPP no matter what. Except maybe for Warriors.

Chaos HT Pendant - MetaSeraphim - 2010-08-24

Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:Matt just quit, you misinterpreted the information. What it is referring to is

I know that, in my last post I meant "You can continue to believe I am just making stuff up for the hell of it." However it was no reason for Dusk to get all pissy and claim I make stuff up just because I made an honest mistake on this one since I haven't made a single thing up yet, but I find it quite cute and funny how much I had an affect him in the past by toying and playing around with him.

Chaos HT Pendant - Jellyflower - 2010-08-24

I think you guys need to learn to ignore him. He's been a troll on most of his posts posting false information and rumour, and I think you guys know that already.

I submitted a ticket regarding the pendant already the first night I got it but ticket's been open and unread for 3 weeks now. I think this is the least of their priorities since it's not affecting too many people yet. Yes, it's mostly unintended and overlooked but there are more pressing issues to attend, but I doubt there's a fix soon sadly.

Chaos HT Pendant - FrozNlite - 2010-08-25

Like Jellyflower said, it's an extremely important issue, but seeing as how alien spawns are currently turning every map into a useless monster zone, and CHTP's aren't exactly flooded through server economies, I think they prioritized on this one.

Chaos HT Pendant - Dex - 2010-08-25

FrozNlite Wrote:Like Jellyflower said, it's an extremely important issue

In this day and age of potential equipment your "extremely important issue" basically boils down to..
• An extra 10% HP/MP.
• Some extra def, acc and avoid.
• 2 w.att/2m.att.
• An easier time remaining 'xxx'less.
• Extra stats for HP washing.
• 1.97 more stats than a VIP at level 200 (calc'd with stat base 999, pendant stats and perfect 3 line % bonuses).

Sweet pineapple all is sweet pineapple all.

Pre-Potential system, there would be every reason to whinge over it.
Post-Potential system, this +4 CHTP is just another small drop in the ocean and pales in comparrison to the potential bonuses other equipment can obtain.

Chaos HT Pendant - SaptaZapta - 2010-08-25

Who cares? Stands to reason that anyone in possession of a hammered CHTP like that, also has glitch-Enhanced equips, and probably attack hacks as well. Getting rid of the pendants won't make a lick of difference, to them or to us.

Chaos HT Pendant - Tykian - 2010-08-25

I laughed so hard at this thread. Meta made a simple mistake, a couple of people with sticks too far up their ass attacked him like he called for the legalization of rape, over a topic that DOESN'T MATTER. You all fought like theres a chance in hell that these are gonna remain as is.

If anyone honestly believes these are gonna stick around, something tells me that they're wrong. 90% of the time.

Chaos HT Pendant - CrazyNomad - 2010-08-25

MetaSeraphim Wrote:A little touchy aren't you? I am not making stuff up. How about you actually go and read some threads about potential and see how they say the bonuses go. 1 - 30, 1 bonus. 31 - 70, 2 bonuses. 71 - 120, 3 bonuses. 121+, 4 bonuses.



http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=30540&page=1


There. Since it seems like you're blind.


how come i found a lvl 10 female top, that yellow-red stripped, with 2 stats, and it was 1%dex and some def o_o"

i will try to get a SS later after SC is done.

Chaos HT Pendant - Alloy - 2010-08-25

Tykian Wrote:I laughed so hard at this thread. Meta made a simple mistake, a couple of people with sticks too far up their ass attacked him like he called for the legalization of rape, over a topic that DOESN'T MATTER. You all fought like theres a chance in hell that these are gonna remain as is.

If anyone honestly believes these are gonna stick around, something tells me that they're wrong. 90% of the time.

The problem here seems more like he had a wrong guess. Nothing wrong there. But when you try to make it canon, and start arguing even when shown evidence, there's a slight ego problem there.

If you really want to improve, learn from your mistakes. Or else, you'll be stuck forever.

Chaos HT Pendant - FrozNlite - 2010-08-25

Dex Wrote:In this day and age of potential equipment your "extremely important issue" basically boils down to..
• An extra 10% HP/MP.
• Some extra def, acc and avoid.
• 2 w.att/2m.att.
• An easier time remaining 'xxx'less.
• Extra stats for HP washing.
• 1.97 more stats than a VIP at level 200 (calc'd with stat base 999, pendant stats and perfect 3 line % bonuses).

Sweet pineapple all is sweet pineapple all.

Pre-Potential system, there would be every reason to whinge over it.
Post-Potential system, this +4 CHTP is just another small drop in the ocean and pales in comparrison to the potential bonuses other equipment can obtain.

You're comparing this pendant to a VIP Visitor Pendant? Do you even know how to get one of them? Whether or not it's easy to get another if you blow one up with a potential scroll? Whether, when you potential scroll it, and it's the only one you have, you end up with 2 bonuses you're stuck with, which are easily overshadowed by 3, well-cubed bonuses on a CHTP?

Seriously guys? You count your eggs way before they're hatched. There are so many "ifs" about this VIP pendant that you can't go assuming everyone and their grandmother will have one. The Dragon Lord pendant's obtainability was just as unknown in Tespia that it could have been assumed easy to get, yet we all now know it's a ridiculously difficult, NX-based Gachapon event. The point is we don't know anything for certain yet, and so to rationally recognize that CHTP's may be vastly more easy to obtain than the VIP (and the only one of the two you can still obtain after the event period), it's utterly asanine to sit here and say this +4 CHTP isn't a big deal.

After all, GMS was split down the middle and up and arms about the issue when hammers were first released with +3 HTPs. No matter what, that's the mentality again, that ridiculous stats are being obtained on items through unintentional glitches.

Chaos HT Pendant - larmie - 2010-08-25

I don't understand; in JMS you can get a +52 using three eggs. Unless the potential percentage bonus starts including added stats, don't see much of a gamebreaker.

JMS did have a pet equip glitch that gave +90 though so we might be a bit shellshocked...

Chaos HT Pendant - Stereo - 2010-08-25

FrozNlite Wrote:, it's utterly asanine to sit here and say this +4 CHTP isn't a big deal.
Its only conceivable purpose is to replace secondary stats. A straight up +70 primary stat boost is barely worth commenting on when there are earrings that can add 250+ primary stat. Of course it's better than the old pendants, but a 21% CHTP is still only gonna add 320 to the HTP's 270, which is just not a big deal. The hp/atk boosts are nice as well but those come whether you +1 or +4 it.

Chaos HT Pendant - Dusk - 2010-08-25

I don't think "is this broken" is the question we should be asking. It's obviously a glitch, regardless of whether it's that big of a deal or not. I want to see it fixed. I don't think it's a top priority problem, though.

Chaos HT Pendant - Phoenix - 2010-08-25

Dusk Wrote:I don't think "is this broken" is the question we should be asking. It's obviously a glitch, regardless of whether it's that big of a deal or not. I want to see it fixed. I don't think it's a top priority problem, though.

The extra two from hammer is defintely not intentional, but does this mean +2 eggs is the norm for CHTP?

Chaos HT Pendant - TugboatWilly - 2010-08-25

larmie Wrote:I don't understand; in JMS you can get a +52 using three eggs. Unless the potential percentage bonus starts including added stats, don't see much of a gamebreaker.

JMS did have a pet equip glitch that gave +90 though so we might be a bit shellshocked...
you guys are heavily nerfed compared to us in gms though. Rolleyes