Hanabira.Kage Wrote:

Very old Savage Blow (does anyone still remember this one?):

Lv1~10: 2 hits
Lv11~20: 4 hits
Lv21~30: 6 hits

Loose Wrote:Remember? It's the one I grew up with; my first love.

I'm still not sure what to do with 3rd job. I'll probably still end up dropping Pickpocket and boosting it later on with Greed, instead. Unless it's a requirement for Greed.

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Doesn't PP max at 10 after the update?

Forte Wrote:If it does I don't see why anybody would not max it.

Herborist Wrote:I really don't understand most of your builds. Savage blow is great and all, but it can't compare to 220% to 4 enemies. I'm going for max steal ASAP so that I can CPQ my way to 51. After that I'll get mastery, booster, savage blow, and haste. If I don't have enough points I'll leave booster at a lower level.

Forte Wrote:I'd rather have 22 steal and 19 booster.

Dusk Wrote:Maxing Steal means you have to leave Booster at 11. Savage Blow does 540% + 6xcrit and Steal needs to hit 3 targets to outdamage it. Steal is still one of the worst mob skills and gets completely replaced by early 8x.

It's a viable build nonetheless, but I hate the idea of leaving a buff timer at 110 seconds for a skill that won't improve training speed by much and that gets replaced.

Herborist Wrote:I don't believe that being able to hit 4 monsters for 220% damage and stun them is slower than savage blow, especially with CPQ. Just the speed increase from 30 - 51 (at CPQ) is worth it. It's not like BoT automatically hits 5 targets for its max damage; I don't even get why it goes down in damage whenever it gains an increase in # of monsters hit, no other mob skills do it.

Herborist Wrote:I don't believe that being able to hit 4 monsters for 220% damage and stun them is slower than savage blow, especially with CPQ. Just the speed increase from 30 - 51 (at CPQ) is worth it. It's not like BoT automatically hits 5 targets for its max damage; I don't even get why it goes down in damage whenever it gains an increase in # of monsters hit, no other mob skills do it.

Dusk Wrote:Also, I don't see any changed mob data for CPQ. I dunno what they're planning on doing to it, but who's to say that it'll still be the fastest way to level?

Max Wrote:cpq is 64k A rank win now and 4k A rank lose

Hazzy Wrote:This is fast on current standards. Without a massive cut in exp tnl.

Dusk Wrote:I made two ring mules this month. The first one was a Bandit (lol my 3rd one). The secoond one was a Page. On my Bandit, I followed the original 19 Mastery -> 21 SB -> a few Booster -> max SB build. On my Page, I maxed Mastery, added some Booster and then Threaten. Both characters did a mix of Kerning Square and max Rombot TW CPQ from 35->50. The Bandit levelled significantly faster, even though it couldn't mob, just because SB is that strong. I just really don't see the need for Steal, especially with the easier levelling.

I was referring to max BoT when I said that it replaced Steal, but with the new changes BoT can replace Steal at level 1, so all the more reason to leave Steal unmaxed.

Also, I don't see any changed mob data for CPQ. I dunno what they're planning on doing to it, but who's to say that it'll still be the fastest way to level?

Herborist Wrote:How is any data you've collected in GMS relevant at all when we're discussing unrleased changes from KMS?

By your logic we should skip BoT too because boomerang step is stronger. Steal makes 2nd job go faster, and while many of you may not agree with me, 30 - 80 is the hardest part of being a bandit. I know some may say that 90 - 120 is harder, but I trained my friend's CB from 93 to 122 and I had no trouble at all.