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Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - LaLaaLove - 2008-08-16
Ranger:
Advantages: We have a great, unique arsenal of skills. We're great soloers, provided we can take a place in the first place. We get, in my opnion, some of the most visually appealing skills in the game. Inferno is sexy, and Puppet is just so damn cute! And face it -- Eagle is a strange tint of yellow, especially in comparison to our stunning Hawk. Oh, and having 99% stun is great too, especially at Newties. We may have been nerfed before, but Nexon's more than made up for that with recent patches. My class is relativly cheap to equip, and our weapons don't look bad either. We do okay in boss fights, it's no t until 4th job where the lack of HP becomes frustrating. I can take a hit from everything I train on, though it did take a few levels before I stopped dying at Nest Golems.
Disadvantages: Though I can solo with Hawk and Puppet, Puppet can easily be made void when other people attack its monsters. This happened to me frequently when I partied at Squids. Other attackers would be like "HAY LOOK! THE RANGER HAS A MOB! LEt'S HELP HER! *Attacks and unpuppetizes monsters*
". When this happens, repuppetizing is often needed, which can take some time and cut into EXP gain. Our skills, though great, take many levels to build up before they become useable. In early levels, they're a joke, at best. It takes 6 full level ups to make Hawk just somewhat efficient. As a bowman, we have limited mobility. Anything we can kill, a sin can kill faster.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Hazzy - 2008-08-16
Low HP. Low Damage on single targets. Low Damage on mobs. How accuracy. One percent an hour at level 40. Only class that gets spammed for "mushie caps pls?????" on a daily basis.
Hmmm, sums up Islanders pretty well.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - D-F1am3 - 2008-08-18
Lv141 Paladin
Pros
- Ability to Freeze
- Really good at skeles
Cons
- Holy charge is the only charge that gives us better damage than Heros
- Needs to HP wash to even consider HTing
- Even though our strongest move is single target, we can't even boss
- Lightning Charge is almost useless
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-08-19
Lv 120 Night Lord
Pros:
-Attacks incredibly fast..
-Attack-formula is "very sensitive", 1 single Weapon Attack = a lot. (can be good, or bad, I guess)
-Haste ; Speed!
-Flash Jump ; I fly through walls...!
-Meso Up ; Yay, more mesos!
-Alchemist ; Yay, potions restores more health/mana and lasts longer than usual!
-Dark Sight ; I can go through things!
-Can get into a party that needs an attacker.. easily.
-One of the most OU-classes in the game!
-Only loses 5% per death!
Cons:
-Low HP.
-Has to HP-wash to be "efficient" at bossing.
-Can't hit close-range.. lol.
-Gets owned at 4th job by Mages / Bishops on wide-terrain maps. -sadface-
-Lord of the Night Sky
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Dusk - 2008-08-20
^
What about needing to hug a 4th job archer for great damage for a con?
LaLaaLove Wrote:Ranger:D: sometimes I wish my party/other people would just let me solo certain bosses so I could rely on Puppet instead of trying to help. Oh, and a sin being able to kill it faster isn't an issue in 4th job. You'll be glad to know that.
Disadvantages: Though I can solo with Hawk and Puppet, Puppet can easily be made void when other people attack its monsters. This happened to me frequently when I partied at Squids. Other attackers would be like "HAY LOOK! THE RANGER HAS A MOB! LEt'S HELP HER! *Attacks and unpuppetizes monsters*
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - hugeslam - 2008-08-27
Lv164 Hero [4 DEX - Red Katana]
Advantages:
- Can hit 99999 easily
- Can 100% 2-Hit Skelegons
- Best build for soloing Zakum, within the best zakum soloing class.
- Good Training-Bossing balance.
- Doesn't need any caution when approaching mobs.
- Can clear boss summons without slowing down on attacking the main boss.
- Can go close to Archmage exp/hour, even though the required setup is harder(don't know if this is an advantage)
- Among Heroes, they have the fastest attack speed and best character
control.
- Cannot be KSed by any non-magician at Skelegon, or any Non-DRK at Crimsonwood Guardians, and there, RK Hero's EXP/Hour with no KSing is higher than the DRK's.
Disadvantages:
- Lower single-target DPM than Bowmasters and SE Nightlords
- Not the first pick when it comes to training parties or bossing parties.
- Melee range
- Hard to upgrade
- Effective training requires at lease decent speed/jump equipment
- Have trouble keeping up with the DPM of a well-scrolled ribgol
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - randompeep - 2008-08-27
Lvl 50 F/P (no poison -.-)
Pros
-A bunch of fire weak stuff in the future
-Good Single Target hits for a mage
Cons
-No Freeze
-No Poison = No DTs at 57. >.>
-the "lolfp" argument for ksing.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Bribery - 2008-08-28
Level 157 Bishop:
Advantages:
- Best damage in the game at the current end-game training spot (Skeles)
- Wanted in every party
- A staple in Zak/HT runs
- Generally cheap to maintain thanks to Heal + MP Eater and NLC pots. Genesis is relatively cheap for how powerful it is.
- Fast, cheap, and easy training. Quite possibly the fastest training class in the game from 1st job to level 200.
- Angel Ray provides a strong single target attack. KB-ing PAP is quite easy.
- Great mobility with Teleport.
Disadvantages:
- It's [SIZE="4"]boring[/SIZE] spamming Genesis all day
- Constant nagging for parties/Mystic Door. Seriously, I hate it when I'm standing in Leafre and I get asked to walk to skeles and door some random person.
- Generally, training speed doesn't increase for a long time. It only drastically changes if you reduce the number of hits to KO skeles.
- Gen30 is expensive if you don't HT.
- "B>LEECH@@@@ PLZ I ONLI NED 4% TO LVL UP!!!"
- Huge bandwagon that it's hard to join HT/Zak groups because Bishops are so easy to find.
- Bad damage formula, reliance on Magic Guard, and expensive equipment/scrolls (applies to all Magicians)
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Hotshot - 2008-09-01
97 Sniper:
Advantages:
Can solo great, can control mobs and single targets with ease, and does great damage for all occasions. Lots of variaty, and even more in 4th job.
Disadvantages: In 4th job, not the best at anything. Decent bossers, but not the best. Decent mobbers, but not the best. No mobility or guard skills.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Rei - 2008-09-06
Lv147 Marksman
Pros:
- Sharp Eyes. Keeps us from being completely useless.
- Ability to freeze. Throws Puppet and Eagle off in usefulness early and easily. &Frostprey is sexy. Incredibly useful even at Lv1.
- Ranged.
- Snipe is somewhat useful. Though by the time MM decide to level it up, they can do 100k in 2 strafes.
- 90% mastery is really nice. BM's have this luxury as well.
- Cheap Mastery books. But they're only inexpensive because nobody wants to be an MM, thus demand is low.
- In second job, Iron Arrow is better due to the recent upgrade.
Cons:
- "What's a Marksman?" ...
- "Why are you using Strafe? Use Hurricane!" ...
- HP is a peach. Needing to sacrifice 20+ AP points to stick into HP or spending money to wash to even be close to having the HP needed.
- Strafe is slow.
- Strafe is really all we get until 200.
- Several of our attacks just go in a straight line.
- Pierce isn't good. 3 second charge and risk of disconnecting. Takes 7 levels of SP to even begin to be worth using.
- Glitched to hell. [This can be said of both archer classes]
- Pathetic at bosses.
- Hearing the sound of your own Strafe is disgusting.
- Annoyingly low DPS.. anywhere.
- Can never find decently scrolled crossbows. The few there are, are usually monopolized by people higher up..
- Crossbow shooting stance makes picking outfits frustrating. :<
- Crossbow blocks the face.
I'm probably forgetting like, a lot more cons. =3=;
But there's the general idea.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - John - 2008-09-06
Magus Wrote:Advantages:
-Chain Lightning. Enough said.
-Pretty good guard skill.
-Gigantic AoE attack.
Disadvantages:
-Our damage formula sucks.
-Everything I get, Bishops get a better version of.
-No one wants you at bosses
All I can think of right now.
^
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Hermit
Pros
•Stronger than most classes
•Faster than most classes
•More broken than most classes
•More common than most classes
•More needed at bosses than most classes
Cons
•They tend to have "azn" or "naruto" in their names
•Only using one attack to train (either L7 or TT)
•Low HP, and that's about it.
•Expensive to fund
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - JezzaRules - 2008-09-06
Level 73 Solo Offensive Priest
Advantages:
* Better offensive capabilities than normal priests
* Wider range of monsters to hunt.
Disadvantages:
* Unwanted in parties due to late Holy Sign
* Damage is still not as strong as I/L and F/P mages
Level 48 Bandit (sindit, non luckless)
Advantages:
* Capable of using BOTH daggers and stars
* Versatile
Disadvantages:
* Damage not as high as luckless
Level 45 Fighter
Advantages:
* High HP, good for tanking
* Decent Balanced Damage
* Faster than ordinary fighters (shoes maxed with speed and using a +5 jump grey dana)
Disadvantages:
* Burns tons of potions
* Melee
Yes I know some of these pros/cons isn'tvery well balanced...
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Kranzorbaken - 2008-09-06
you mean dmg not as high as dexless.
and your non dexless...
Just say reg dex.
And hey now i have an actually lukless.... i find it fun >.>
(ill prolly get hit with a spam infraction for this for some lame ass reason.)
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Bravedancing - 2008-09-08
Lvl 157 HP-Washed/Bloodmastered Bowmaster:
Pros:
- Hurricane is pretty.
- Dragon Breath and puppet keeps monsters away from me. And Dragon Breath just amuses me anyway.
- Pap solos and Anego are easy.
- 5k HP allows me to go to horntail.
- People like Sharp Eyes.
Cons:
- The abbreviation "BM"
- Cost of bloodmastering and washing. Yes that was a choice I made and I'm glad I did it, but it was expensive.
- People like Sharp Eyes... it gets a little annoying sometimes.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Stereo - 2008-09-08
Bravedancing Wrote:Cons:
- Cost of bloodmastering and washing. Yes that was a choice I made and I'm glad I did it, but it was expensive.
Out of curiousity, how much washing did you do and how many AP do you still have spent in HP? 5k at 15x is quite a lot.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Bravedancing - 2008-09-08
Stereo Wrote:Out of curiousity, how much washing did you do and how many AP do you still have spent in HP? 5k at 15x is quite a lot.
I did it a little at a time. I didn't get INT equips until 13x, so I didn't wash as much as I could have. But my MP is currently at its minimum.
I put about 7 - 8 levels directly into HP instead of DEX. I've reset all my extra strength into dex. I just got an egg for my pendant so that's 15 more I need to reset.
I do the resets and washes a few at a time. I don't know how many I've done and don't like to think about how much I've spent on it.
I might be a bit weaker than other Bowmasters my level, but I like my character a lot and wouldn't change anything. I can still mow down the skeles like everyone else.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - heronz - 2008-09-10
Lvl 102 HP-Washed Sader:
Pros:
- survive ANYTHING. (more when DK partied)
- more 'worth' out of use slots + hp pots (more when DK partied)
- High numbers 21k comas , 36k panics
- Great Atk + Mob
- HP washing grants +320hp, -20 /lvl. best HP gain, MP lost ratio
- Easy to be a 'pure' stat, since most of equips dont have 2ndary stat requirements
Cons:
- a lot of 'wasted' SPs with worthless skills in all lvls of jobs
- Cost of washing.(but planned so i have a goal in mind)
- Slow (have speed gear + hog, but still)
- Rage (warrior pots are more worth it now) + 'wasted' SP
- Range, high potential of getting KSed in sparse maps, shout sucks
- Scrolls give worthless stats (w.def. ...wtp)
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Lynel - 2008-09-10
Level 154 Loladin:
Advantages:
- Nearly constant, uninterruptible stun rate. Capable of taking an EXP loss in exchange for huge profits.
- Strongest single-target attack of all warriors.
- One of the best classes at damaging mobs of 4 or more targets outside of the mage class.
- Maxes out damage output VERY early in 4th job.
Disadvantages:
- Worst attacking range of all classes.
- No party skills.
- Almost useless at bosses.
- Totally nerfed damage without Holy weak enemies.
- Have to get their best skillbook from Zakum at level 120, while they're one of the worst Zakum classes possible.
- Will almost always train solo.
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Morgana - 2008-09-10
78 low-LUK Priest
+Easy, fun, and beneficial to party with friends and help them out.
+What's a pot?
+Fast - with max Tele I hardly notice having to walk places.
+Survivability with MG... I could take two hits from CRog at level 50.
+Attack speed of Heal. It's incredibly fast.
+Tele + speed of Heal: Nearly impossible to be KSed at heal-weak maps by anyone not 10 levels above or another cleric.
+Considering my 50 LUK... at least I'm not a mage. (Elemental weapons FTL.)
-Magic damage formula sux.
-Low HP going MG-less plus partying (not letting the other person(s) down) = no time for chatting.
-HS lag makes me die at Himes. A LOT.
-Partying all the time makes me not able to log on whenever and train for only half an hour, so I end up sitting in town chatting.
-The stupid pet looting glitch with heal loses me time or money (or both).
-I make no money training anymore because priest monsters don't drop lucrative quest items/good drops, unlike cleric monsters.
-Terrible neutral damage means I have to leave lots of quests until later, when I'll max SR, and I rely on the party for PPQ quests.
50 DEXless sword Page
+Maxed FA pwns in CPQ.
+I beat all those dumb fighters that did Rage before FA.
+Being underestimated.
+Ownage single-target damage.
+Can train anywhere without worrying about survivability, map, etc.
+Already loving Power Guard, with only 3 points in it.
+WKs are the coolest third job (even if they're the most derided), so I have something to look forward to.
+Can just whack away at stuff dumbly during training. Awesome stress reliever.
+My dream character.
-Slow with all the ACC equips I need and no speed ones.
-"OMFG Y U NO RAGE", "wat a page lol", "lol noob fighter better", "you're a pro fighter", etc...
-So many useless skills. (I might throw some points into Endure or something, lol.)
-Spendy for acc equips and a Rohen. (And maybe an RK later.)
-Hard to find the scrolled overalls/top/bottoms I need for ACC when I'm female. Self-scrolling is even more expensive.
-Getting owned by Avoid UP in CPQ. (Not once I get my Zhelm, though.)
-No 2H Maple weapon swords until 64, so damage isn't that much better than low-DEX if I rely on my Singer for ACC.
45 low-STR Hunter
+Arrow Bomb rules, especially in Monkey Forest II.
+Requires strategy and is fun to play.
+My only pure solo character ATM. (Don't have to worry about partying.)
+No accuracy worries, ever.
-lol2ndjobarcher
-Equips all inflated because of 4th job bandwagoners.
-Slow, even with all the speed equips I have.
-Can't CPQ effectively, because none of the maps are very good for 40+ archers.
-Doesn't respond as well to funding as other classes.
-I wish I could have a sniper with Arrow Bomb, so I'm not really looking forward to 3rd job... lack of freeze.
It's sad that I can't think of more pluses for my hunter, because I actually like her a lot. o_O And I started her before 4th job came out. =P
Advantages & Disadvantages of your job. - Goals - 2008-09-20
Pros:
Two hit KO Skeletons
Fast training
TELEPORT!!
Freeze Effect
High Mp due to LUKless
Really big numbers
Chain lightning
Seal Slow
I have booster and bishops don't, hah!
Blizzard
Fastest levelers in the game.
I have yet to one hit KO Skeletons like those bishops.
Cons:
I spent 600m for blizzard 30
The cost of an elemental wand 7 (It's driving me insane atm)
Useless at HT (I think?)
Expensive gear due to bandwagonning bishops
^ Expensiver gear to keep up to bishops' damage
No HS, heal, resurrection, dispell, heal, bless, invicincible, door, doom
Did I mention we suck at bosses?
"Blizzard is slower than Genesis thing"