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Katawa Shoujo - Dyxanije - 2009-05-02

FelixTM Wrote:They better make a Kenji route, where you become bros for life and rule out women FOREVER while plotting their demise (with graphs and puppets).

BRO END.

I want that too.

Anyway, I am leaning towards Hanako or Lilly, since I pissed off Misha and Shizune. I am going to go finish because it has been annoying me all day.


Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-02

News: Apparently all the routes are drafted (or farther), half or so of the CGs are completed and all the music is done. One character's (who wasn't in Chapter 1) sprites have yet to be done. Seems like it'll largely be finishing the CGs, piecing it all together and doing proofreading/testing. I'm gonna stay optimistic and hope it gets done within a year's time. Well, a man can hope.

Seems quite a few others haven't found the Rin end yet, either. I don't want to go looking too hard because a part of me doesn't want it spoiled. But if it gives me trouble, I may have to.


Katawa Shoujo - Beaner - 2009-05-02

this is really fun, too bad it is so short, i could get hooked on these things....

god no, maple is enough of a drug.


Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-02

XBish Wrote:this is really fun, too bad it is so short, i could get hooked on these things....

god no, maple is enough of a drug.

Play full-length VNs. Those consume days upon days if you want to do all the routes. Big Grin And glad to have you on the good side. I'm always disappointed that so many people have never played (or even heard of...) visual novels. I guess either too stupid to find them or too intimidated by reading? lol

Also L> for moar discussion. I made this thread because I wanted to introduce SP to a unique, fun and free VN so that we could all discuss it, share our thoughts, progress and have a generally merry time.

Prompt: Thoughts on Misha's disability? There's no right or wrong answer at this point.


Katawa Shoujo - Dyxanije - 2009-05-02

Apparently I got Emi's ending because I went with her and Rin to the festival.

FelixTM Wrote:Play full-length VNs. Those consume days upon days if you want to do all the routes. Big Grin And glad to have you on the good side. I'm always disappointed that so many people have never played (or even heard of...) visual novels. I guess either too stupid to find them or too intimidated by reading? lol

Also L> for moar discussion. I made this thread because I wanted to introduce SP to a unique, fun and free VN so that we could all discuss it, share our thoughts, progress and have a generally merry time.

Prompt: Thoughts on Misha's disability? There's no right or wrong answer at this point.

Hm, Misha's disability is a though one to guess. Maybe she has a milder arrhythmia or maybe she is blind in one eye. I'll think of some more ridiculous theories and get back to you.


Katawa Shoujo - JoeTang - 2009-05-02

My first guess was that she had ADHD or OCD. Some sort of personality disorder. Explains why she's always signing. Anyways. I got Emi end. FUCKING HNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG THE MOST ADORABLE PUPPY DOG EYES I HAVE EVER SEEN, ETC. Anticlimactic though. Will attempt Lilly get later.


Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-02

JoeTang Wrote:My first guess was that she had ADHD or OCD. Some sort of personality disorder. Explains why she's always signing. Anyways. I got Emi end. pineappleING HNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG THE MOST ADORABLE PUPPY DOG EYES I HAVE EVER SEEN, ETC. Anticlimactic though. Will attempt Lilly get later.

SRS. I was like, WHAT THE HELL? Ending: Hisao goes to sleep.

.......

Anyway, the general consensus with Misha is that it's some type of mental disability. I agree; I just have no idea what. She's not mentally retarded. And what's with the "dizzy on stairs" comment? I haven't even seen it yet in game. Is it real? If so, wat.


Katawa Shoujo - Rob - 2009-05-02

Ok, now I've got time.

Here are my thoughts and possible spoilers:

 Spoiler



Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-02

RobMdza Wrote:Ok, now I've got time.

Here are my thoughts and possible spoilers:

 Spoiler

RAGING LIKE THE FIST OF THE NORTH STAR. How can you not like Hanako?? Shy girls are the best. And she's really insecure, so it's like getting the chance to be the person to let her know she's still beautiful. ;_; Then she will love you passionately. You get to play chess with her at the end. How is that not awesome? DO IT.

Don't give me any crap. JUST DO IT!

 Ultra cute part with Hanako route

Vertigo's a good frickin' theory. Plus now I can never unsee Misha in scenes from Vertigo (the movie). LOL Thanks for that awesome visual. If it turns out she really does have vertigo, I demand a Vertigo/Misha parody video/scene. Haha oh wow, FUND IT.

And yeah, I've yet to get the MANLY PICNIC end. I've seen screenshots from it and it looks hilarious. Looking forward to it.


Katawa Shoujo - Rob - 2009-05-02

FelixTM Wrote:RAGING LIKE THE FIST OF THE NORTH STAR. How can you not like Hanako?? Shy girls are the best. And she's really insecure, so it's like getting the chance to be the person to let her know she's still beautiful. ;_; Then she will love you passionately. You get to play chess with her at the end. How is that not awesome? DO IT.

Don't give me any crap. JUST DO IT!

 Ultra cute part with Hanako route

Vertigo's a good frickin' theory. Plus now I can never unsee Misha in scenes from Vertigo (the movie). LOL Thanks for that awesome visual. If it turns out she really does have vertigo, I demand a Vertigo/Misha parody video/scene. Haha oh wow, FUND IT.

And yeah, I've yet to get the MANLY PICNIC end. I've seen screenshots from it and it looks hilarious. Looking forward to it.

Maybe the vertigo is why you don't go to the rooftop with Misha and Shizune :f6:.

I thought I was yet to be convinced, your spoiler is the CUTEST dialogue ever. I do it too ;_;


Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-02

RobMdza Wrote:Maybe the vertigo is why you don't go to the rooftop with Misha and Shizune :f6:.

I thought I was yet to be convinced, your spoiler is the CUTEST dialogue ever. I do it too ;_;

And to think you doubted Hanako. You should be ashamed! She's the best girl. Period. I actually do it too... lol

ITT: Ronery.

;_;

I'm gonna start my 3rd play through after I go grab something to eat. Hoping for MANLY PICNIC or Misha/Shizune get this time.


Katawa Shoujo - Rob - 2009-05-02

FelixTM Wrote:And to think you doubted Hanako. You should be ashamed! She's the best girl. Period. I actually do it too... lol

ITT: Ronery.

;_;

I'm gonna start my 3rd play through after I go grab something to eat. Hoping for MANLY PICNIC or Misha/Shizune get this time.

If you want to make things easier:

 Spoiler



Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-02

RobMdza Wrote:If you want to make things easier:

 Spoiler

Yeah, I was pretty sure I knew how to get the Shizune end by now. I was gonna do: Yes to self-introduction, Aggressive move in Risk and take their side in the Lilly/Shizune conflict. The 3-choice question during lunch with Misha/Shizune, however, I dunno. I suppose ask about Shizune's deafness? I've done that one before, though, and it does (seemingly) nothing. I asked about the library my first time because I thought it'd lead to Hanako (which I did get my first time). What does the final choice do ("I think I got everything I need to know")?

Anyway, starting now.

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Oh, HO! I remember now. I forgot about this decision because it didn't appear in my 2nd play through. It must not become an option unless you play aggressively in Risk (or do the self-introduction? but I don't think that question really affects the game much). It seems to be the main factor in branching off towards Shizune or towards Hanako/Lilly.

Wait for Misha and Shizune to come to a decision.
Read my book.

I did the latter the first time. And I never got that question at all my 2nd time. I guess it's what really starts you down the Shizune route. Doing it now!

Oh, and I'll add that I picked the 3rd option on that lunch question this time. It seems to make Misha and Shizune happy. Choosing "Ask about Shizune's deafness" does nothing because he feels too awkward/nervous to actually ask about it.

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FFFFFFFFFFFFF- Yuuko works at the tea cafe place too? What the hell?! I hate her enough as the librarian. GAH.

This is awesome. I love how every time I play it's almost like a completely new story. I'm surprised (again) by how different the Misha/Shizune route is. Like spending the day missing class with them, instead of wondering where they were. It even makes you miss the conversation with Muto about what to do. Interesting.

Just joined the student council. Wooo It sucked having to be mean to Lilly...again. This route is actually quite a bit of fun, regardless. I find myself liking Misha a lot more than Shizune, though. I imagine Shizune probably takes on an adorable tsundere relationship with Hisao if you pursue her, but still. Misha's much more attractive.

LOL oh god. Misha/Shizune invade Hisao's room. I had to pause at this new decision when Misha asks about my meds.

Try to dodge the subject
Kick them out of my room

AWESOME. This is like the decision that appeared on the Emi route (Run faster or slow down). I might have to play a couple more times to see the different responses to the different answers. Quite amazing how thorough Chapter 1 is, with a surprising number of different scenarios/scenes.

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Okay, sweet. Finished my 3rd complete play through. I definitely have to say that one was interesting. It seemed to be the most "selfish" route, in that almost all of it was spent with Misha/Shizune. In Hanako's route, I spent a considerable amount of time with nearly every girl (some more than others, but not the point), until the end. I thought the ending was nice. The fireworks were quite well done, and it made me like Shizune a bit more. Though what happened to Misha? She was up on the roof with them too, but it was like she wasn't there. Was she just watching the fireworks away from them? I thought it was sweet how Hisao was talking to Shizune about wanting to date her, knowing she couldn't hear him...but how did Misha not overhear that? WHERE WAS SHE. lol Overall, I will say it's the best Chapter 1 ending because it's the only one where Hisao admits to falling in love already.

Now I have 92% complete. Missing 4 scenes and 1 song. I also noticed something VERY odd (possible glitch). After my first play through, in my Extras' Library, I noticed I had both Hanako's and Lilly's ending scene. I didn't pay any attention to it. But now that I've realized their name only fills in when you get their ending scene, I decided to watch Lilly's...since I know I haven't gotten it yet. Sure enough, I had never seen that ending before. Why does it say I have it unlocked? I should have had only Hanako's, Emi's and Shizune's at this point. Meh. Regardless, I think I will still try to achieve Lilly's ending legitly.

And that also leaves Rin's end and MANLY PICNIC. Goodness this is a fun VN. Crazy how much content there is in just Chapter 1. I am impressed and pleased.

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k, found someone that has already made a Chapter 1 route map:

[SPOILER=Serious, ultimate spoilers inside this one. Do not open unless you have played once or more already...or if you're a f'ag who doesn't care]
[Image: ksroutes.png]


Looking over it, though, I've found you do NOT have to follow those listed routes exactly to achieve the desired ending scene. For example, I achieved Hanako's route by picking some different answers as listed. You just have to answer a certain way on the questions that really matter. The first question in the game is completely worthless, from what I've found.

And looks like I was right about how to get Rin's end. I figured as much after playing my 2nd time, since Emi and Rin are so close. I figured if I answer "Take it easy" when running with her I'd start to move towards Rin rather than Emi. Now I just gotta try it.

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Okay, yeah. After thoroughly looking over that route map and considering everything I've experienced in my three complete play throughs, I've found this game is definitely quite loose with your responses. Which is impressive because it really makes what'd you think happen, happen. There's not really any "set in stone" routes in Chapter 1. For example, you could still have the heart attack while running with Emi and end up with Shizune, depending on the earlier and approaching choices. That means there's MANY different ways to achieve endings. It's surprisingly realistic. And I think it's safe to say the first 4-5 (at least first 3) questions don't have ANY effect besides changing some dialogue.

Oh...and, how long am I going to keep talking with myself I wonder? No one to discuss things with ever. ;_;

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k so I couldn't resist playing more tonight. Decided to use Skip Mode now, though. I've been playing through it all manually previously, all three times. Now I'm just gonna use Skip to move to the decisions and get the rest of my missing scenes. Found the MANLY PICNIC end first.

OH MY GOD.

 Spoiler

Missing 3 scenes and I have all the songs now.


Katawa Shoujo - Beaner - 2009-05-03

wtp dies?

no wonder the chapter is called life expentancy. brb gonna get the death ending somehow


Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-03

XBish Wrote:wtp dies?

no wonder the chapter is called life expentancy. brb gonna get the death ending somehow

WOOO Finally I can stop that legendary length post of TALKING TO MYSELF. I've been using Skip mode to race to each decision and try answering as many different combinations as possible. I've found it's quite easy to get the BAD END. All you gotta do is work your way towards one of the females and get really close to them. And then, when the final decision comes on their route, pick the RUDE choice. After that, Hisao gets depressed and ends up with Kenji at the MANLY PICNIC. I've achieved it by getting close to Misha/Shizune and then kicking them out of my room and by getting close to Lilly and then refusing to tell her about my heart condition. Both of those result in BAD END.

By doing all this, I've also noticed you can create some really weird scenarios. Like get close to Misha/Shizune, have tea with them, join the student council, but then kick them out of your room and end your relationship with them. For some reason after that, it triggers the walking to town with Lilly scene (which doesn't normally happen unless you've been working towards Lilly). Normally the question about your heart condition would come up at the end of your walk back to school. However, in this odd case, it doesn't, since you've been rude to Lilly previously. After that...BAD END.

It's quite twisted all the different ways you can mash the scenes together and affect what decisions you get to make. You can change the dialogue that appears during scenes, too, in some cases. Gotta read really close to catch it sometimes.

Gonna do Rin's route now finally and should achieve 100%. If I'm still missing a scene after that, FRICK. lol

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Rin's end is awesome. Much better than I expected. Rin is so strange, yet I find myself really liking her. They just spent the entire day together...doing nothing, until they fell asleep on each other and the fireworks started and woke them up. I enjoyed it. One of the other scenes I was missing, Creative Pain, revealed a character I hadn't seen before too. Nomiya, the art teacher. He is really funny looking. haha

However...DANGIT. I am still missing ONE scene. 98% completion. What on earth? It's the scene after Home Field Advantage. Anyone have? How2find? I guess there's still one question I haven't tried the other answer to yet. And maybe it's on the legit path to Lilly's end? I gotta try!

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Lol that was easier than I thought. I found the scene by following the suggested route to the BAD END on that route map. There's SO many ways to achieve that ending, which is surprising...since it's by far the worst result. Anyway, the scene was "Slow Recovery" and it even presents a decision I've never seen before. Misha asks where Hisao was after his heart attack from running with Emi. The choice I made resulted in him telling Misha and Shizune to piss off.

...yeah. Now there's that decision and the one in the Rin route I have to try the other answer to to see what happens. And it looks I DO have to achieve the Lilly ending manually, even though it says I have it unlocked. It's counting it towards my completion (I have 100% now), but it hasn't given me the final Gallery image (the 100% image; I've seen it before on /a/). Gonna do Lilly's end, those alternative answers and then I'll be all done with the game, completely.

brb.

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Whoa. I didn't think there was any new decisions possible, but I was wrong. This scenario is really strange. I ended up joining student council AND running with Emi the second time. If you answer "Don't want to talk about it" (or w/e) to Misha when she's asking where you were after your heart attack with Emi, it will bring up a new dilemma: Eat with Emi? Eat with Shizune? Since you've managed to get close to both girls in this scenario, the game actually makes you choose which ending to get at this point. lol Cool.

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Awesomeee! Confirmed that glitch. Something is up with the Lilly ending. It improperly unlocks itself if you do Hanako's ending first. But trust me, even if the game says you have Lilly's ending, make sure you do it manually too. For some reason, the game doesn't record one scene (the one where you have tea with Lilly and her sister) and it's a MUST see. Lilly's sister, Akira, is a delicious reverse trap. OMG. I can't believe I almost passed up seeing her. However, (thankfully), even though it's possible to get 100% by doing all endings except Lilly's, the game won't give you the 100% completion image until you get 100% in the Extras' Library AND view the Akira scene.

So now I've done it all. Viewed every possible scene, unlocked all CGs and songs and read all possible dialogue. 100% completion, period. After I go play MS for a bit, I'll do a write up of my opinions and summaries of all possible routes/endings.

Look forward to it!


Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-03

Excuse the double post, but I don't wanna make another massive write up and have it attached to my previously massive post. lol I will attach everything I make in this post to the OP too, for easy access later.

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Conclusion/Summaries/Final Opinions of Katawa Shoujo after 100% completion:

 Hanako

 Lilly

 Shizune

 Emi

 Rin

 BAD END (Kenji)

Obviously I left a TON of stuff out, but those summaries were just to give you the main idea and key events during all girl's Chapter 1 route end. Be sure to play them all if you want to experience every detail. If I left anything important out that you feel should be added, let me know. And if I made any mistakes, definitely let me know.

 tl;dr summaries of all endings

 Easy Modo Route Map

By choosing those answers to questions, you are guaranteed to achieve your desired girl's ending. However, keep in mind not all questions are vital to staying on a girl's route. You can answer differently to some and it won't matter. Just use your brain and pick answers you know your girl will like, and you should be golden.

 Rare Character Appearances (Akira and Nomiya)

The first one is Lilly's sister, Akira. You will only see her if you achieve the Lilly ending. The second one is the art teacher, Nomiya. You only see him if you achieve the Rin ending. They're characters that have a VERY small role in Chapter 1, so I thought I'd show put them here for easy access.

 100% Completion Image

That's the final image in the Extras' Gallery. You will earn it by getting 100% completion and viewing the Akira scene (only on the Lilly route).

Closing remarks: Incredible visual novel. After just Chapter 1, I can safely say it's one of the best VNs I've ever played. It may not have the absolutely professional quality of mainstream Japanese VNs, but it's an amazing work, especially considering it was started as a project on /a/. I will DEFINITELY play the game again when the full version is released. And I will achieve 100% in EVERY chapter, no matter what. It's so worth it.

There are many unique ways to achieve the endings, and it's very fun to see how answering different to the multitude of questions affects the dialogue and the appearance of the numerous scenes. Have fun and be sure to get that 100% completion. It's absolutely worth it!

10/10.


Katawa Shoujo - Beaner - 2009-05-03

why emi has legs on that final image?


Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-03

XBish Wrote:why emi has legs on that final image?

They're her different pair of prosthetics. She has her running ones and normal ones. She uses them once during the story.

I'm currently working on a massive, much more thorough route map for Chapter 1. I should have it completed sometime this afternoon. When I finish up version1, I'll post it here and ask for help fixing it up, adding missed routes and suggestions.

Look forward to it! lol


Katawa Shoujo - JoeTang - 2009-05-03

fffffffffffffffffffffff thighhighs brb fappan


Katawa Shoujo - FelixTM - 2009-05-03

JoeTang Wrote:fffffffffffffffffffffff thighhighs brb fappan

Delicious indeed.

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OKAY, GUYS. AFTER 4 HOURS, I'M READY TO POST V1 OF MY KS COMPLETE ROUTE MAP. I kinda rushed near the end, just so I could get a copy out finally.

[SPOILER=It's BIG; BRACE IMPACT, ETC]
[Image: ksroutemap.jpg]


Want I want from you guys:

Comments
How to IMPROVE it
Mistakes I made
Routes I could add (I'm talking anything and everything, boys; if I'm missing a Possible Way to Access, I want it added)
Did I miss ANY potential question sets?
How to IMPROVE it

Thank you. Now I'm gonna start revising more thoroughly and experimenting with more possible routes. There's a lot more to be added to make this 100% perfect yet. I want some help.

LET'S FINISH THIS TOGETHER.

Post all that you feel and find.

Edit: V2 up already. Fixed minor text things and line corrections.

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Well, the general consensus seems to be that it's too confusing. I thought up this way because I tried simplifying it...I guess that backfired? Instead of doing all the possible links, I got to the core branch areas and then listed the combos to jump into the ending sets.

Ah well. It was a fun way to waste time today. Maybe there's still hope for it later.