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Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - TheBirds - 2014-07-16
Niernen Wrote:TheBirds has gone back to being silent, but he could be busy or just waiting to see if there is anything he cares to commenti suppose i should start +1/-1 posts to show i am at least reading the thread, at this point i have nothing new to add so i don't feel the need to comment and i don't like it when people just pop in to say there is a lot to read and they'll comment later
Niernen Wrote:ChaoticCJ; Sorry to bring this up again, but did you just make a typo when you said there were 4 neutrals?myself, luv, chaz and CJ said in his post he believes another person hinted at being a neutral but didn't want to reveal them unless they reveal themselves willingly
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Olsi - 2014-07-16
Alright here we go.
1. I think it's dumb to kill luv because he is neutral, despite his lying about his role that makes him seem scummy, if verrkol really can just keep attempting to infect luv and luv attempts to infect verrkol wouldn't that work? Or is that not attempting? Also wouldn't it be a large waste on your part if you forced verrkol's vote to himself and then everyone else just voted you and causing us to possibly waste a day?
2. [MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; noted a bunch of death theories and one of them was that the mafia saw maspan as a threat, but maspan had not said much and was restricted badly so he wasn't a threat in terms of his voice. We have already seen a power heavy game so far so it's very possible the mafia linked strong power with some sort of restriction and figured maspan had a strong power. We have already seen a roleblock used on meta so I believe the mafia went with that line of thinking for their targets. I brought this up once but only thebirds really paid much attention to it, if meta isn't mafia she will be dead soon I think. Which is why I think if the doctor protecting meta is a good idea for now.
3. Holypie unfortunately has no internet so we can't really do much there.
4. So far we have nothing, no hints of any kind or cop searches that came up successful. A lot of suspicion is being based on who isn't talking a lot and I somewhat agree. I myself haven't said all that much because there hasn't been that many opportunities for me to say something that isnt kinda rubbish and already said and I'd like to think its the same for thebirds. However I think those that have been talking a lot are actually scummy as well. Currently out of those that post a lot Im only really suspicious of [MENTION=10201]Niernen[/MENTION];, he always talks a lot but I see him as always trying to dig up for more information on people's roles
Other than him Im gonna agree with the rest and wait for cakes and faon to say something
Edit: A lot of stuff has already been said so this is kinda rubbish I think
. Also my internet is gonna be dead soon because i gotta get a new modem so ill be gone for like an hourish. I can still reply via tapatalk but itwont really be big ones
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-16
well if the cop exposed himself wouldnt he be a dead dog by morning. makes sense to keep hush hush i guess.
even if he was to role claim and was saved from the ravenous beasts by the doctor that we may have, he could be visited and be role blocked, thus being rendered useless
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-16
Olsi Wrote:However I think those that have been talking a lot are actually scummy as well. Currently out of those that post a lot Im only really suspicious of Niernen;, he always talks a lot but I see him as always trying to dig up for more information on people's roles
Note the bold. The only role I have been digging on was Luv's because he seemed to be lying before. I guess I also took a dig at meta, but that's because I misunderstood her post. And yes, I am posting a lot more than most people, but that's mostly because I was trying to respond to other people and keep the conversation going. When either Luv or I don't respond to someone's post there usually is an hour or longer gap before someone else desides to respond to it. When I have the time, I'm trying to respond to everything. It also stops me from falling behind and being unable to catch up (like the two island's mafia). I guess I take the opposite stance of thebirds and am posting as often as possible.
But I do agree with what you said about how we don't have any new information so there is not much new that can be said.
[MENTION=12295]meowmixx[/MENTION]; Not if the doctor is smart enough to save him this game. And the cop does not have to come out, they could always come up or find a reason someone was suspicious and use that t hint that they are mafia.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - xBTAx - 2014-07-16
Kyrastri skillfully rolled their dice across the plaza to MetaSeraphim, managing to have the dice stop right at their feet. MetaSeraphim leaned over to look at the dice, and confirmed that a 12 had been rolled.
This time, the letters that emerged from the glowing timer were bright green, reading "GO RIGHT AHEAD!". The atmosphere of your discussion shifted once more. However, this time it was not directed at Kyrastri. Instead, it seemed as if you were all discussing things more efficiently than before. Some of you questioned whether this could apply to work done in your free time as well, but quickly returned to the discussion to avoid getting left behind.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-16
I believe Kyrastri's dice either affect powers (weather day or night or all) or votes, but behind the scenes. So we won't notice anything really different, but it is possible Vlad does?
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - MetaSeraphim - 2014-07-16
Niernen Wrote:So we won't notice anything really different, but it is possible Vlad does?
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faonkarino Wrote:no
Chaz Wrote:changes
LuvDWayULie Wrote:here
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Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Holypie - 2014-07-16
Niernen Wrote:So you got hurt but there were no actual negative effects or restrictions? Wonder what happened then. Maybe whatever action was taken against you didn't work properly or got altered by another ability? Or if you git hurt, it's possible the doctor saved you?
CakesXD; Just read over holypie's first post about the roleblock, I guess that is also a possibility. He said he got hit by energy, which I would assume would hurt him. Did he ever mention pain or anything like that? (I don't think I will be able to go over all his posts at work).
Yup, when I got roleblocked it said I was in a lot of pain and couldn't do anything that night. Sounds like Meta got hit by the same thing.
And sorry about the flip flopping, it seems like whenever I decide to vote for something a big revelation comes up and then I have to choose someone else (like when I voted for TheBirds and then he claimed neutral survivor and pointed out Luv's scumminess, but then Luv comes out as a pro-town neutral so now the only one who seems reasonable to vote for is Chaz, but then he's getting modkilled and then and then and then...). I swear I'm not usually this indecisive.
Oh damn, Luv's power is exponential? Well that's a lot more powerful, he basically gets a guaranteed late game lynch. Basically Kingmaker (Gonna start calling you Ser Criston Cole if it gets to this) if we get to lylo or mylo.
Guys he claimed his wincon was exactly the same as Chaz before he died, including the name of his faction. I don't think he'd be able to make that up. I mean, it doesn't even require survival. I think the Intruders are just meant to pineapple pomegranate up and wreak havoc, unless there's a fourth faction that can claim the exclusive win making everyone (including the Intruders) lose. By the way, I don't think TheBirds is an Intruder.
I don't think Luv is lying, because his role is indeed very powerful. Since he doesn't need to live in order to win, it makes sense to have a suicide neutral with a guaranteed lynch of your choosing. Think about it, Chaz could only get one person to vote as he pleases but Luv can get ALL of us (potentially) at the same time. This would be way overpowered if he could do this more than once (because then he would be the sole dictator of all lynches once he hits a critical mass of infections) so to balance this out he dies after he uses it. He's a botnet. He's going to DDoS us.
faon I noticed you vanished! Nobody noticed me vanish either apparently lol. I'm posting this as I read through so yeah, uh, this post might be a bit messy, sorry. Oh yeah I don't have data so the only way I can actually get to the thread is at the library or Starbucks or on campus.
Wait Meta, someone has your power? Well that's pretty shitty.
Luv seriously don't use your power. You have like 3 people infected if my math is right, that's 4 votes for you. Actually that's very powerful. Nevermind. Oh yeah, if the cop has some guilty results it might be nice to have a decent target, right now the only one people want to vote for is Luv, a pro-town neutral. Come on guys. I'm not fishing by the way, this is a pretty decent time for cop to reveal as it's fairly late game and you should have some info by now. If you don't have a guilty don't reveal (of course).
Hey, hey, [MENTION=10201]Niernen[/MENTION];, I made some original points. Like all of the stuff going after Luv initially before he revealed. And as for the wishy washy flip flopping, I explained that earlier in the post. I normally don't vote until later in the day but everyone's like guys vote more so I decided to try it and look where it got me ;_;
You can still suspect me (I'm not mafia though [even though that is meaningless I have to say it]), just don't go around ninja-lynching me before I get a chance to defend myself please? I really do want to see a town win here, mafia seems to be really good lately, just killing and deceiving everyone for the past two games.
Yay I found some power outlets! They look really fucking disgusting though so I don't want to use them unless I have to. My battery seems to be lasting a fair bit longer than I thought so that's nice.
@Polantris;, Luv's power isn't to force one person to vote for someone, that was Chaz. Luv's power is to force a SHITTON of people to vote for someone. As his power is so much more dangerous, he has to die afterwards. It's actually a very nicely crafted role. Sounds like it would be a lot of fun to play as. And he did say that when he votes, ALL of the infected must follow his vote. I think a lot of people just missed that or don't understand the power of his role. And he claimed because he started getting accused of being suuuuper scummy. Which he was.
Luv's initial strategy (which I have to say was not a very good strategy) was to infect a bunch of people he thought were townies and force them to vote for someone he thought was scummy. This is why he chose Shidoshi, who was a pretty townie person. This is the same reason the mafia chose to kill him.
Even if he only infects one person a night that's a fairly strong power late game. At something like day 4 he would control the votes of 3 or 4 people including himself, which is FOUR FUCKING VOTES. How many votes made up the Chazwagon, like 5 or less? And by a later day all of the active posters get murderized by the mafia and there's fewer votes to majority. He gets a late game solo quickhammer. That's strong as hell. To be honest it's more of a mafia slanted power but if he controls all of the mafia votes to make them vote off one of their own it's a pretty powerful town sided power as well.
Those last three paragraphs were directed towards Polantris' gigapost by the way.
I don't think the Intruders are necessarily intruding in like an aggressive sense. I believe that Intruders are digital entities that are from outside of the village that has been digitized (according to flavour we're all from a village who got digitized, and turns out some of the villagers are assholes). Intruders being that they accidentally happened upon this game, and are now proceeding to pineapple pomegranate up. This makes sense with Chaz the Rogue AI's controlling a single person, and Luv the Worm (computer worm) controlling people en masse.
Shidoshi died because of metagame. The mafia knows that Shidoshi is an experienced player, and the mafia knows that Shidoshi is not mafia. Therefore, in order to prevent him from scumhunting the pineapple out of them, they killed him. I doubt it had anything to do with Liable, other than showcasing his ability to get the town to wagon for someone he (wrongly, but that's beside the point) thinks is suspicious. It's happened to me in RL games before, and frankly it kind of sucks but it's a legitimate strategy for the mafia and it is in their best interest. You also get the converse of this where if an experienced player DOESN'T die the first night, they are likely to be mafia. Also as an aside, it looks like the mafia is targeting all of the past game hosts! [MENTION=3177]xBTAx[/MENTION];, look out! I think you're the next target
I'm going to post this now and continue in another post. This is getting really long, I've been here for more than an hour now lol.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-16
Holypie Wrote:Oh yeah, if the cop has some guilty results it might be nice to have a decent target, right now the only one people want to vote for is Luv, a pro-town neutral. Come on guys. I'm not fishing by the way, this is a pretty decent time for cop to reveal as it's fairly late game and you should have some info by now. If you don't have a guilty don't reveal (of course).
read ppl. read
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Holypie - 2014-07-16
Guys get off Luv's case he's clearly trying to help the town. If he doesn't infect people then he's less than useless. I'd say continue trying to infect people you think are scummy, hopefully getting all the mafia and then triggering your power when we have some confirmed targets.
If my internet isn't back and I can't get out to post I'll just tell Synthesist to tell BTA to kill me or find a sub. It would suck but I'm willing to do what needs to be done. Don't Chaz me and waste another lynch. I won't really be able to post much tomorrow since I have to sit around at home waiting for the stupid internet guy to come, but I'll get on as soon as I can.
Don't freaking lynch Luv, it's a waste of a day. If anything we should just fall back on lynching an inactive. Ugh, I have no reads on anyone right now, except Verrkol seems a bit sketchy but (sorry for metagaming) it's nothing like two islands mafia so maybe he's learned better or maybe he's not mafia. That's just intuition, my intuition has been wrong very many times before. I'm also a little bit suspicious of Polantris too, but that might just be due to misunderstanding Luv's power. Not removing his vote is a bit sketchy though.
Just because Niernen was used by Chaz doesn't make him town. I have a good feeling about him though, but it has nothing to do with Chaz. Chaz was neutral, he had no idea who's town and who's maf. I think Niernen was just picked at random.
Did Kyrastri just Adderall us?
Hey meow, you read! I was writing that post as I read, and that hadn't come up yet. But yeah if all else fails we can just try for a follow the cop scenario.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-16
lol yea i read it. im refreshing like every 2 flippin minutes lol (no life and not proud of it)
also wouldnt the roleblocker mess tht tactic up?
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - faonkarino - 2014-07-16
SO.
meowmixx Wrote:@Niernen; sorry if my posts aren't the best in ur prospective. im trying really hard, honest.
i still hold my stink eye on faon tho that im 100% on. a little lesser suss is that verrkol is working with him. but im not going to push my beliefs to anyone. just voicing my suspicions i guess
tht is all
VerrKol? For real?
Sincerely, if someone was working with me that would be Niernen. This is like the second time he's defending me. Phasdamnnit, meow
MetaSeraphim Wrote:,
I don't get your "someone has". But yeah, pineappleing the posts seems like a good idea for the people that aren't posting much to demonstrate they're reading and are aware of stuff being discussed.
And really guys? Really?
Their roles are really, really different. And in case no one understood from HolyPie:
Chaz targets someone and becomes their lover for the night. They also take their vote and their night action (without knowing what it does) FOR THE NIGHT.
LuvD targets someone and that person becomes infected. Infected people have to spread their infection or die. If he wants, LuvD can vote and make every single infected vote with him, and then die. He could reverse a majority lynch if he wanted to, later at the game. His power is not "weak" at all.
And I don't really mind about the meta-gaming. Hell, I meta game all the time, be it consciously or inconsciouly. It's just how things are.
Kyra, you have to be aware that those reasons can actually intersect. When I was mafia last game, there was some planning of the consequences of killing someone, but it wasn't rocket science, specially in the first two, three days.
Let me see if there is anything else for me to address.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-16
i come to my own conclusions faon. if i am wrong its cuz of me and i will take full responsibilty for it with my life.
[vote] faonkarino
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-16
Holypie;1265975[U Wrote:]
just don't go around ninja-lynching me before I get a chance to defend myself please? I really do want to see a town win here, mafia seems to be really good lately, just killing and deceiving everyone for the past two games.
Also as an aside, it looks like the mafia is targeting all of the past game hosts! xBTAx;, look out! I think you're the next target
Hasn't (the underlined) been what I have been saying? I still need to process everything you have posted and I'm about to leave work so it may be a good 2 hours before I can fully respond. I have to agree about Shidoshi's death, they probably did kill him since he was experienced and there were no other targets day one. Didn't notice that thing about game hosts, that's pretty funny. I think most of us were on Luv's case because he seemed he was lying. I get the point of leaving him to infect, but if what Verrkol says is true, then if you don't spread something bad happens, and it just seemed ominous to me to let one player take over everyone's votes.
[MENTION=13694]faonkarino[/MENTION]; I have to say, the scariest part of Luv's power is not that he gets your vote, but that you have to spread it (letting him get more votes), or die. And I was not trying to defend you as much as go against meta-gaming, but you seem fine with it.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - faonkarino - 2014-07-16
I'll post again soon, but for now:
I'd say Kyra just made each and everyone of us a strongman of sorts for a night.
I don't know if that applies only to roleblocks or if every kind of night action manipulation is impeded, but that seems like one hell of a buff for the town. (Unless mafia guesses cop right tonight.)
Edit: Ah yes.
MY NAME IS FAON KARINO, NOT FANON, PHASDAMNIT
(Some huehue br br friends of mine do call me Fano, but seriously. Don't.)About the "big deal", I'm sorry if looked that way. My "big deals" are usually jokes (like that YOU'D BETTER FIND MY POST USEFUL
on some other post).I like Polantaris agressiveness compared to the last game (woo, meta-gaming), but I do not recall who's he's voting on. Was it LuvD?
LuvD is a fool, game-wise. Managed to get people hot on his trail in the first two days and revealed everything he could ever reveal after pression. I'll find it hilarious when LuvD is sorted into mafia. I think he'll manage to look even more scummier than Words did. No hards feeling though, LuvD. Take it as a counsel, and step up your game. You have potential, I guess.
I don't trust Meta. Having a restriction in which you literally say nothing yourself, and/or say too little to be actually analyzed and have no power at all? I call bullpomegranate on that.
Niernen has changed a lot. He's more picky, posts a lot, comments on lots of stuff... Well, he did say he wanted to change, if I'm not mistaken, and be of actual use to town. Apparently, he did.
Although, I'm beginning to feel odd by having he defend me out of the blue. I mean, meta-game wise, I propably look like Moriarty or some.
Chaotic points many things, but says nothing at all. Phasdammnit Chaotic. ]
VerrKol really needs to post more, I can't get a read of him at all. So does Olsi. (Or it may be bad news.)
HolyPie is a strange case. He actually posted quite a bit, but I still can't get a good read of him as well. Actually, most of us talks a lot but doesn't say anything. We need to stop discussing so much about the roles and continue the actual scumhunt, like Shidoshi said at some point.
Kyra is one of the few I truly believe it's town. His power just screams townie to me. (Ofc, it would have been rather funny to have Kyra get another double vote at some point and then the game ending because mafia reached majority. Lucky win indeed.)
I won't vote for TheBirds, but I won't trust him either. He cannot possibly be simply "nothing", as Meta.
I don't have enough on Cakes, either. Watch out for him.
Meow is the second one I truly consider as townie. I mean, the mafia wouldn't let her suspect and vote me out of the blue, right? That's way too absurd.
Right?
For now, I'll [Vote] CakesXD, since he's the one I got less info on.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-16
i do feel bad for my vote on Luv yesterday because of todays outcome on him. for tht i am kinda sorry for putting that pressure on u, especially defending urself during sleepy time. however my gut feeling did not fail me. we ended up confirming a neutral party which is quite important in this game. the ability to bat for either team is daunting indeed. i most likely wont vote for Luv again (if i am alive after the night LOLZ).
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - faonkarino - 2014-07-16
Oh, hi Liable.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-16
faonkarino Wrote:Meow is the second one I truly consider as townie. I mean, the mafia wouldn't let her suspect and vote me out of the blue, right? That's way too absurd. Right?LOL if tht isnt telling the mafia to come at me idk wat is. with tht i say bring it on! i aint afraid of u pixels....with tommy guns....and machetes.....crap
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - faonkarino - 2014-07-16
meowmixx Wrote:LOL if tht isnt telling the mafia to come at me idk wat is. with tht i say bring it on! i aint afraid of u pixels....with tommy guns....and machetes.....crap
Excuse me? :v
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-16
Okay, what is going on in these last few posts? I seem to be missing something.