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[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - andyandythin - 2010-06-26

ShiKage Wrote:Holy God... Hermits are so freaking over powered now... What the hell, man? One of the EN-KMST players is a level 111 with level 0 equips and a level 77 Maple claw. This dude was doing more than 40k damage per Avenger (including Shadow Partner) to 6 mobs. That's over 240k damage. Not to mention, Avenger is fast as hell... That's freaking over powered...

thats nothin compared to what soul driver has become, i read the skills and it does like 4hits of 25k on 8monsters.


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - LiquidSwing - 2010-06-26

andyandythin Wrote:thats nothin compared to what soul driver has become, i read the skills and it does like 4hits of 25k on 8monsters.

Soul Driver being sexy again isn't nearly as serious as Hermits mowing down everything with avenger lol.

They'll probably tone avenger down a teeny bit. I'm glad it hits hard now though, before it felt like I was just throwing pillows at groups of mobs.

Hell ya @ Soul Driver though =]


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-06-26

Wait wha-?! The new damage cap is 994624? What kind of weird number is THAT?!



[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - ScherzoDeLuce - 2010-06-26

Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
Wait wha-?! The new damage cap is 994624? What kind of weird number is THAT?!

i thought it's 999999. @.@


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-06-26

ScherzoDeLuce Wrote:i thought it's 999999. @.@
Look at the spoiler on...page 26 I think. There's a picture of a Marksman hitting for 994624 (critical) with Snipe. I think.



[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - JoeTang - 2010-06-26

Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
Look at the spoiler on...page 26 I think. There's a picture of a Marksman hitting for 994624 (critical) with Snipe. I think.

The damage cap in GMS is 199999 and Marksmen almost never hit that with Snipe.


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Cyanne - 2010-06-26

The number that shows up for snipe has 90% mastery, even though the actual damage is always instant kill or 199999.


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - IPunketOz - 2010-06-26

I saw this in the kms website, this means they lowered the exp by 61%?

http://i46.tinypic.com/2w52cer.jpg

I see every1 says the lowered the exp like 50-60% but no1 is 100% sure about the exact % so is it 61% or wut


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Loose - 2010-06-26

IPunketOz Wrote:I saw this in the kms website, this means they lowered the exp by 61%?

http://i46.tinypic.com/2w52cer.jpg

I see every1 says the lowered the exp like 50-60% but no1 is 100% sure about the exact % so is it 61% or wut
That's based on a poll they had. 61% of people wanted a reduction in EXP.


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Hazzy - 2010-06-26

IPunketOz Wrote:no1 is 100% sure about the exact % so is it 61% or wut

It varies. The curve is not a direct reduction. There's like 5 levels after every advancement where the experience to next level doesn't change at all. :/ 50-60% is an estimate to give people an idea of how drastic it was.


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Zacairga - 2010-06-26

On either Monday or Tuesday there are likely going to be a lotta Mages wetting themselves and a lot of Shads' heads exploding because of some pomegranate NexonKR does with the test server. I'd put money on it.

Inb4patterns


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Arroz - 2010-06-27

Zacairga Wrote:On either Monday or Tuesday there are likely going to be a lotta Mages wetting themselves and a lot of Shads' heads exploding because of some pomegranate NexonKR does with the test server. I'd put money on it.

Inb4patterns

I'll be surpised if there isn't a NL nerf honestly


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Hazzy - 2010-06-27

Arroz Wrote:I'll be surpised if there isn't a NL nerf honestly

I won't. Nexon loves Night lords. They never get shafted. They are continuously broken more and more.
"Hey, let's throw in a potion that helps low wAtk classes more than higher! We shall call it the Onyx Apple!"
"Let's throw in some Statless Claws so Dexless NLs can use them up till level 100 or so, then convert to low Dex for ToT gear."
Sharp Eyes
And more.


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - jhkplaya888 - 2010-06-27

Hazzy Wrote:I won't. Nexon loves Night lords. They never get shafted. They are continuously broken more and more.
"Hey, let's throw in a potion that helps low wAtk classes more than higher! We shall call it the Onyx Apple!"
"Let's throw in some Statless Claws so Dexless NLs can use them up till level 100 or so, then convert to low Dex for ToT gear."
Sharp Eyes
And more.

All statements from here are old NLs, maplestory 1.0
More like haha, lets make NLs the worst ranged class and make them beg for SE. Give them alch so they can atleast boss....but watch them cry in pain as they attempt to train.

All statements from here are the new 2.0 maplestory
I am actually happy with what they did. They gave us decent attack and we sorta only lost some unique-ness like our sp and fj and lost uber SE.


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Kalovale - 2010-06-27

jhkplaya888 Wrote:More like haha, lets make NLs the worst ranged class and make them beg for SE. Give them alch so they can atleast boss....but watch them cry in pain as they attempt to train. I am actually happy with what they did. They gave us decent attack and we sorta only lost some unique-ness like our sp and fj and lost uber SE.

With highest damage multiplier, I would think Apple still benefits NLs the most.


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Arroz - 2010-06-27

jhkplaya888 Wrote:More like haha, lets make NLs the worst ranged class and make them beg for SE. Give them alch so they can atleast boss....but watch them cry in pain as they attempt to train. I am actually happy with what they did. They gave us decent attack and we sorta only lost some unique-ness like our sp and fj and lost uber SE.

have you not seen your range with the new tables? it nearly doubles and that's not adding potential items. Either Nexon K has a specific paradigm they are going for they're making the same mistakes again 7 years ago. And FFS ditch that lame argument, how many people have proven your whining is baseless?

If there is a pattern they nerfed shad's skills then added SP so they must be doing something wacky by day's end to up NL dmg


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Loose - 2010-06-27

jhkplaya888 Wrote:More like haha, lets make NLs the worst ranged class and make them beg for SE.
That's why their Avenger needs to be toned down?

Worst ranged class? Besides having truckloads of damage, you have insane mobility that no other ranged class can compare to.

jhkplaya888 Wrote:Give them alch so they can atleast boss....but watch them cry in pain as they attempt to train.
Let's give them low weapon attack so that Weapon Attack modifiers give more to them and if it's a potion (or Onyx Apple), let's make it last more!

They'll be training as fast as hell with this new Avenger.


jhkplaya888 Wrote:I am actually happy with what they did.
If you're so happy with this, why are you "bawwing"?

jhkplaya888 Wrote:They gave us decent attack and we sorta only lost some unique-ness like our sp and fj and lost uber SE.
Decent attack? It's not decent, it's superb!

Flash Jumps are different. : 3

You never had Sharp Eyes, that's an Archer skill. And they still have it, they can still buff you with it!


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - Baklava - 2010-06-27

Stop feeding him while he complains about NLs, he just doesn't understand how good they actually are. He's just looking at the numbers and not the formulas behind the numbers.


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - ScherzoDeLuce - 2010-06-27

well im still amaze by just looking at the number. o.o


[1.2.321] Skill Balancing - Edelstein & Leben - MetaSeraphim - 2010-06-27

Enough about Night Lords.


To the Dark Knights high enough to use Berserk in training how do you feel about Berserk now working in reverse?