MountLag Wrote:I used 350 ability circulators just now and the best things I got were 32% buff duration, 7% boss, and 13% item drop at unique top line.
Most of the time I was stuck at rare or epic. Circulators = bad idea.
Started at unique

DavyJonesx Wrote:What level is your inner ability?

Even Wrote:Believe they also removed the chance of getting critical lines, at least on unique. You're meant to get up to 10-11% critical and I've used about 100 circulators on unique rank, still the best I got was 13% drop rate. Could be totally wrong on this but I HATE this new inner ability, its only good for those that want to aim for attack speed and for the rest its kinda sucky (apart from the fixed numbers of stat ofc).

edit: Could someone tell me if having 10-20% more critical on a xenon is more beneficial than 5-10% boss dmg?

@hadriel can you help on this?

I currently have this of total dmg/boss (note that my weapons are still not cubed, so Im looking into gaining another 90% boss/total dmg in the future, however after nerf xenon lose 40% total dmg on skills)

60% multilatern
80% opatz code
15% ds link
10% da link
11% char cards
3% Da card
27% rank 11-50 dojo glove (I know I suck for now )


I also have decent se, meaning it bumps my avg crit dmg to 1.5x

Was also thinking of aiming for 32% buff duration. After Xenon nerf the duration of opatz will be down to 30 sec, having 20% from mechanic card and 32% will bump it up to pre nerf duration and I can also get the 20% from empathy (as perviously asked, it will probably be the same as the current empathy but it caps at 20% instead of 30%).

What I really mean is that before the nerf criticals looks more appealing that boss dmg, and afterwards buff duration looks WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more appealing than either one of them. Opatz has annoying long cast time and duration buffed by 102% (assuming I get 50% on legendary obviously) will mean I'll have it up with all 20 energy charges over 66% of the time. This also helps my decent ability skills (since a miss doesnt seem to be a miss in ems, you cant change equips even if a target misses on you)

So what do you guys think? Aim for buff duration and eventually cube for legendary or try getting criticals?

hadriel Wrote:Given that you have DSE, as you said your average crit damage is 1.5x, at the limit of 90% crit, another 10% crit will give you an increase in DPS of about 3.45%. This is the absolute minimum increase in DPS (7.14% starting at 80% crit for a 20% crit rate increase), and this number will increase as your actual crit rate decreases. Assuming Linear Perspective still gives 40% crit rate, with DSE and Hyper Crit and Phantom Link you're standing at 75% crit, so a 10-20% increase in crit rate from here is about 3.64% - 7.27%.

Let's take the pre-nerfed Xenon numbers, but I note you missed out Hypers and Kanna contributions (didn't include Kanna here): 60+80+15+10+11+3+27+20 = 226%, or a damage factor of 3.26. An additional 5-10%Boss would bring that damage factor up to 3.31-3.36, so it's an increase of about 1.53-3.07% DPS. This number will go up after nerf because of a lower starting damage factor, so losing 40% from OOPArt and Multilaterals will bring the increase in DPS up to 1.75-3.50%. One should also note that with OOPArt and Multilateral I-VI alone pre-nerf, that's 140% already (or 160% with Hypers), so the diminishing return sets in strongly right from the onset, at 2.08-4.17% (1.92-3.85% with Hypers); after nerf those numbers are 2.50-5.00% (4.17-8.33% with Hypers). You have lost half of the effectiveness of that 5-10%Boss right from the start.

JoeTang has raised this point before: should you use your points in your Xenon energy gauge, or should you try to keep it maxed for the extra damage? You will often use Amaranth Generator and Extra Supply for the purposes of full recasting, so half the time you will be on full gauge, and half the time you will be on empty/charging up if we consider the rebuffing of OOPArt only and you having about 50%BD from Mechanic card and IA. A recharge rate of 60% per instance of you being attacked is pretty high (idk about multi-hit skills) so think about it. If the map has a rope, then casting delay becomes a moot point, but this is very situation-dependent. I can see the benefits of keeping your gauge maxed, but I have my reservations about just how much more or less those benefits are compared to swapping out the %BD IA for crit rate - I've not played a Xenon before so I cannot do those numbers.

Hadriel

Even Wrote:Believe they also removed the chance of getting critical lines, at least on unique. You're meant to get up to 10-11% critical and I've used about 100 circulators on unique rank, still the best I got was 13% drop rate. Could be totally wrong on this but I HATE this new inner ability, its only good for those that want to aim for attack speed and for the rest its kinda sucky (apart from the fixed numbers of stat ofc).

Tigeon Wrote:Well i used around 150 circs.

I stayed at epic only, never moved up and down. Best thing I got was buff duration 19% but i sorta circed that off by accident lol

Ended up with drop rate 9%. Does this stack with DS's demon cry and spider familiar? If not, I'm farming more circs of the answer is no >_>
[my honor level is only 31 atm QQ]

 55 later. Should I stick with this?

Ribbonpig Wrote:

 55 later. Should I stick with this?

DavyJonesx Wrote:You can get way better then that ._.

Justin Wrote:A single day's worth of bonus coin rounds nets you a good 400-500+ circulators >_> It's nuts.

Pink Bean Wrote:it would be great except i'm crashing and disconnecting every 3 runs or less