y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:That's cool. Like I said, I'm not going to say how I did until the appropriate time or unless I truly need to. Especially seeing as how our doctor-y role is dead.

Swerve Wrote:Role fishing? You sound like Darkmaniak. Not to mention, when Corn dropped the news of his PM, it seemed as if xBTAx seemed eager to call out MasPan's choice:



IIRC: [1] Being Corn is mafia and [3] Corn is lying.

Swerve Wrote:When involving a pm, I can understand why town would be apprehensive about the idea of presenting a role. However, to completely turn the situation 180 and claim that Corn has to be mafia is a ridiculous statement to make. Besides just the PM, MasPan has been over eager to gun down Corn. This is possibly because he and xBTAx were afraid that Corn's big reveal would result in a problem for both of them. I read through this whole thread a couple of times last night with the theory that at least xBTAx and MasPan were both mafia and that Dual Reaver was innocent. Via process of elimination I came up the following categories:

Unknown: ChaoticCJ, Holypie, MetaSeraphim, Mephisto, Daku, Blaine
Possibly Unknown / Indie / Town: Corn (by confession), Shidoshi, Kajiti, and y0y0y0y0shi0
Possibly Town: Dual Reaver (by role), Jon (by association)
Possibly Mafia: MasPan, xBTAx

y0y0y0shi0 if you have an alternative theory than please tell me. Last night I've been scribbling and reading. This is the belief that I got from the given interactions and the inferences you so wanted me to use in order to determine the outcome. If you have your own list then please present it. However if I get lynched and turn up town, I hope that town considers this list when going into the end-game. I love town more than anything, especially since this is my first mafia game. I originally wouldn't suspect xBTAx unless his comment about going to bed early (he stated up for at least three extra hours) and an IRC conversation in which I asked him to make sure that Daku responded provided the following response (roughly speaking), "How do you expect me to respond to that?" after a suspicious pause. I understand that it could be a reasonable response. He could think that I was fishing. Okay. But still the way he responded seemed to cast serious doubt in my mind and I had to re-read the thread under the idea that xBTAx might be mafia and Dual Reaver was innocent. The above list was formed according to this vantage point. Even if I do get lynched toDAY I ask that everyone re-read the thread from the first page with the above list in mind. I understand that I am asking for a tall order. But I believe that there is something going on and I have faith that there must be at least some truth to my suspicions.

Mephisto Wrote:ITT: Yoshi soft-claims detective
This thought process seems defective
And certainly makes me feel pensive
One has been ousted, a second active
Beyond Two-Face and Kajiti, I misgive
I do not believe a third is here captive
If my thoughts on Kajiti's role are fictive
I hope that my accusation you can forgive

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:ITT: Everyone assumes that roles that can clear other roles are detectives.

IRC Wrote:15[19:38] <nobody> btw BTA did you send in your night actions
[19:39] <nobody> Four people need to submit
01[19:39] <+BTA> ...
01[19:39] <+BTA> how do you expect me to answer that?
[19:39] <nobody> Also ask Daku if he is doing more than just avoiding modkill
[19:40] <nobody> Just say you've done what you need to do.
[19:40] <nobody> no big deal
01[19:40] <+BTA> if I have something to do I've done it?
[19:40] <nobody> No
[19:40] <nobody> Just say you're done for Night 2
01[19:40] <+BTA> done
[19:40] <nobody> I'm not reading into it.
01[19:40] <+BTA> :<
01[19:40] <+BTA> I've been done
[19:41] <nobody> kk thank you
[19:41] <nobody> I was trying to poke Daku and make sure he did whatever had to be done or not.
[19:41] <nobody> that was all.
[19:41] <nobody> oh well hwk.
02[19:42] * nobody (mibbit@109.169.29.95) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)

xBTAx Wrote:So either your memory sucks, or you're lying. Twice.

Swerve Wrote:Yeah I said that.

I never went into IRC attempting to implicate xBTAx. I saw that 2 night actions needed to be completed and logged into irc in order to catch someone who doesn't post in the forum board too often in case they forgot i.e. Blaine (Altruit)/Daku. I mentioned to xBTAx to poke Daku in case he forgot and to remind him because I tried pinging Daku a billion times and he never responded. I never intended to break the rules and am angry that you are calling me a cheater.

Daku knows that I tried to ping him a bunch of times FIRST before I tried talk to xBTAx. I DID ask xBTAx if he knew whether or not Daku submitted night actions but I didn't mean it to be probing. I have assumed since Tobias told us that 8 night reactions remain that everyone has a night action. I just wanted to prod people into doing the bare minimum involvement. I did not intend to play the game on IRC. That was not my intention. The fact that xBTAx offered a self-conscious response threw off my radar and caused me to look over the thread one more time. I don't know how you would know about the event unless you were on IRC at the moment (can't remember) but the fact is that xBTAx should be the one who responds to this as it appears that both of us do not have chat logs from that night.

xBTAx Wrote:Well, here's the thing.

1. You told me you "wouldn't read into it". That was obviously a lie.

2. You said that I said that in response to asking me to tell Daku if he become active on IRC again... which you didn't say to me till AFTER I had responded.

So yeah.

Mute Wrote:Stepping in now:
discussion of the game over the iRC is not allowed for anyone but mafia. That I was either afk or w/e, I'll grant some leeway.
But further discussion of events that occured in the iRC are pushing my buttons. Back to the thread at hand for the discussion.