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JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Polantaris - 2011-05-19
MetaSeraphim Wrote:The two biggest buffs in the game Combo Attack and Shadow Partner aren't passive. Passives don't even come close to making a class more powerful than those two skills.
So this entire rebirth system was made for one specific class combo?
I fail to see the importance or the usefulness of this system then. All it's doing is making Hero/Shadowers overpowered and leaving everyone in the dust. Yay for balance.
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Dark Link - 2011-05-19
Polantaris Wrote:So this entire rebirth system was made for one specific class combo?
I fail to see the importance or the usefulness of this system then. All it's doing is making Hero/Shadowers overpowered and leaving everyone in the dust. Yay for balance.
More like people found the two best classes for min-maxing your damage in the most OP way possible.
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - hadriel - 2011-05-19
Can we have some arguments without people trying to insult each other?
Hadriel
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Link - 2011-05-19
Passive Skills that carried over from Dark Knight to Crossbowman :
Mastery
Dragon Judgement
Elemental Resistance? (I can't really check this one...)
Final Attack
Dark Spirit's Revenge
Dark Spirit Up
Passives that didn't carry over :
Dark Force
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - ShinkuDragon - 2011-05-19
ShiKage Wrote:Passive Skills that carried over from Dark Knight to Crossbowman :
Mastery
Dragon Judgement
Elemental Resistance? (I can't really check this one...)
Final Attack
Dark Spirit's Revenge
Dark Spirit Up
Passives that didn't carry over :
Dark Force
well... that just sucks balls. so you can use all those at low levels? (100-)
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Link - 2011-05-19
ShinkuDragon Wrote:well... that just sucks balls. so you can use all those at low levels? (100-)
Yes. I'm level 48.
http://xfire.com/live_video/rinku
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - ShinkuDragon - 2011-05-19
ShiKage Wrote:Yes. I'm level 48.
http://xfire.com/live_video/rinku
hnnnnggggghh.... them dragon roars, that's pretty darn awesome, iron will doesn't stack with iron body afaik though, and loving the music.
oh, and what weapon are you using? a fish stick?
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Link - 2011-05-19
ShinkuDragon Wrote:hnnnnggggghh.... them dragon roars, that's pretty darn awesome, iron will doesn't stack with iron body afaik though, and loving the music.
oh, and what weapon are you using? a fish stick?
Lol. I forgot about the Iron Will thing. I was just using it for lols, since it doesn't really do anything at low levels. XD
I'm using a dark snowboard.
Also, it sucks so much ass not being able to use XBow skills, being pure DEX and having to rely on my Dark Knight skills until Nexon Japan finally decides to fix what they discovered on day f'ucking one. >_>
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - fodjgngf - 2011-05-19
I'm kinda guessing NL/shadower into bowmaster would be pretty insane. 1200 hits per minute.
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - ShinkuDragon - 2011-05-19
ShiKage Wrote:Lol. I forgot about the Iron Will thing. I was just using it for lols, since it doesn't really do anything at low levels. XD
I'm using a dark snowboard.
Also, it sucks so much ass not being able to use XBow skills, being pure DEX and having to rely on my Dark Knight skills until Nexon Japan finally decides to fix what they discovered on day f'ucking one. >_>
wait, what's the trouble, mind explaining? or you mean not being able to use the skills without the weapon? and you are really working those DrK skills, so it's all good anyways f3
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Link - 2011-05-19
ShinkuDragon Wrote:wait, what's the trouble, mind explaining? or you mean not being able to use the skills without the weapon? and you are really working those DrK skills, so it's all good anyways f3
Well, I'm pure DEX for the sake of being a strongish Crossbow Master, considering my equipment. I'm going STRless because the level 100 Maple XBow requires no STR, so my Dark Knight skills are suffering a lot. :X I can't add 2nd job SP because of a Nexon Japan miscalculation so I'm stuck doing less than crap damage. lol
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - ShinkuDragon - 2011-05-19
ShiKage Wrote:Well, I'm pure DEX for the sake of being a strongish Crossbow Master, considering my equipment. I'm going STRless because the level 100 Maple XBow requires no STR, so my Dark Knight skills are suffering a lot. :X I can't add 2nd job SP because of a Nexon Japan miscalculation so I'm stuck doing less than crap damage. lol
so you don't use Xbow dmg formula for spearman skills, well that will surely annoy a lot of people. on the bright side, +20 mastery= most stable damage ever, lol.
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Teppi - 2011-05-19
ShiKage Wrote:Passive Skills that carried over from Dark Knight to Crossbowman :
Mastery
Dragon Judgement
Elemental Resistance? (I can't really check this one...)
Final Attack
Dark Spirit's Revenge
Dark Spirit Up
Passives that didn't carry over :
Dark Force
oh hey i was right. seems like jms really worked with this system instead of copy paste from private server
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - MetaSeraphim - 2011-05-19
Teppi Wrote:oh hey i was right. seems like jms really worked with this system instead of copy paste from private server
Or, that is how private servers work after Big Bang. If JMS actually worked with anything on this system then every passive would have carried over and skills wouldn't be weapon locked.
Still waiting on whether Berserk unlocks at 4th job.
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Satellite - 2011-05-19
Didn't hear about this until today. I am bit shocked that jMS does something like this. It makes ms like a whole new game. It's like if gMS suddenly decided to raise level cap to 1000 and introduce 5th and 6th jobs.
ShinkuDragon Wrote:and i am severely torn on the fact that the item is NX-only. that and the fact that it's a freaking holy water, seriously, if you are going to introduce agame-breaking item, at least make it more visually appealing.Holy water could be a place-holder tho?
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Link - 2011-05-19
MetaSeraphim Wrote:Or, that is how private servers work after Big Bang. If JMS actually worked with anything on this system then every passive would have carried over and skills wouldn't be weapon locked.
Still waiting on whether Berserk unlocks at 4th job.
Not to mention the fact that the system doesn't even seem tested at all...
F'uck. Bandits (non rebirthed) can't even advance to 2nd job without over leveling and sacrificing 1 SP into 1st job. Infighters (non rebirthed) can't advance to 3rd job without over leveling and sacrificing a few SP into second job skills. >_> That's not even considering the fact that after you rebirth, you don't even get 1 SP for your first job after rebirthing, so you only get 60 SP, which means you can't do your second job advancement, so you have to over level and sacrifice an SP to make the job advancement. THEN, ONCE YOU ADVANCE, YOU CAN'T ADD SECOND JOB SP UNTIL LEVEL 71+! After you get 121 SP into your second job book after your supposed 3rd job levels, you can't even allocate 3rd job SP until after 120+!
Also, that means the Bandits can't make 3rd job until level 71 and 4th job until 121+! That's the same with the Infighters! What the flying f'uck...?
This system is far too broken to be released, and I don't mean that by over powered. It's just f'ucking broken.
Edit : Oh, and I forgot to mention the fact that if you rebirth as a Night Lord or Shadower, if you try using Flash Jump as another job, your client crashes. >_>
Also, with the CS item needed to rebirth : It's called the "Holy Stamp of Rebirth," so a Holy Water isn't too far off. lol
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - The Great One - 2011-05-19
Well that's the point of testing hopefully nexon Japan listens to you guys. Could you ask someone who rebirthed from a hero if passives like chance attack carried over?
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - Link - 2011-05-19
The Great One Wrote:Well that's the point of testing hopefully nexon Japan listens to you guys. Could you ask someone who rebirthed from a hero if passives like chance attack carried over?
Well, I don't think Nexon Japan really cares. lol... They've known about the most important bugs since day 1 and they haven't even made a notice about them. They've only made a notification on Twitter saying they're aware of it. ._.
They've also left the servers just run and run. We have ONE channel for about 2000 players at the least. It gets cramped and instanced maps (especially third job advancement maps) are taken up fast, meaning people have to wait HOURS before they can do anything at all. They said (on Twitter) that they're aware of the issues of the bugs players found and the lack of maps for people to play in and the lack of number of channels required, but after almost 4 days, they haven't done jack sh*t.
Also, I don't know anyone who has played and rebirthed as a Hero, but if I run into anyone, I'll try to ask.
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - MetaSeraphim - 2011-05-19
ShiKage Wrote:Edit : Oh, and I forgot to mention the fact that if you rebirth as a Night Lord or Shadower, if you try using Flash Jump as another job, your client crashes.
Hahahaha, wow. That has gotta suck.
JapanMS - Open-To-All Test Server; May 16th ~ 30th - SwordStaker - 2011-05-19
ShiKage Wrote:Well, I don't think Nexon Japan really cares. lol... They've known about the most important bugs since day 1 and they haven't even made a notice about them. They've only made a notification on Twitter saying they're aware of it. ._.I somehow think this is one of those HAHA we tricked you moments. Just to get peoples minds off of whats really coming.
They've also left the servers just run and run. We have ONE channel for about 2000 players at the least. It gets cramped and instanced maps (especially third job advancement maps) are taken up fast, meaning people have to wait HOURS before they can do anything at all. They said (on Twitter) that they're aware of the issues of the bugs players found and the lack of maps for people to play in and the lack of number of channels required, but after almost 4 days, they haven't done jack sh*t.
Also, I don't know anyone who has played and rebirthed as a Hero, but if I run into anyone, I'll try to ask.