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[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Takebacker - 2010-07-08

IllegallySane Wrote:Is it still +15% to crit though? If so, fucking sweet.

It's +10% chance, like it always has been.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - IllegallySane - 2010-07-08

Takebacker Wrote:It's +10% chance, like it always has been.

Whoops my bad. I googled Adventurer rings and saw on a random site +15% for the crit rings. Still great; 35% chance to crit on bosses.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - shagreen heart - 2010-07-08

i quite enjoy buccaneers throwin bones on the battlefield like it's any back alley or corner of the nautilus.

can't wait to see paladin and F/P vids.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Fiel - 2010-07-08

street Wrote:How is this hero weak again? She is using brandish which is weaker should i remind you from 260% to 220%. She hits 200k brandish like its nothing how much higher do you expect a hero to hit? Isn't hitting 100k/100k good enough?

With the pyramid buff glitch my brandish was hitting that high i killed bigfoot in a minute..

I wish she use braveslash but its a huge boost for heroes Biggrin She also hit 430k with panic o my god

Does anyone know what that rock move she use around 0.57? Is that enrage?

Why isn't anyone focusing on the exp rate?

Okay, she's level 192 and throughout the video she got 0.14% in roughly five minutes. Multiply that by 12 and she's getting 1.68%/hr. I understand that's phenomenal for level 192, but it's still incredibly grindy. At the rate she was going, it would take 55+ hours to gain one level up. I thought Big Bang was supposed to make it easier than this.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Takebacker - 2010-07-08

Fiel Wrote:Why isn't anyone focusing on the exp rate?

Okay, she's level 192 and throughout the video she got 0.14% in roughly five minutes. Multiply that by 12 and she's getting 1.68%/hr. I understand that's phenomenal for level 192, but it's still incredibly grindy. At the rate she was going, it would take 55+ hours to gain one level up. I thought Big Bang was supposed to make it easier than this.

Except that's more exp/h than i get at level 163?

T.T

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Rob - 2010-07-08

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Fiel Wrote:Why isn't anyone focusing on the exp rate?

Okay, she's level 192 and throughout the video she got 0.14% in roughly five minutes. Multiply that by 12 and she's getting 1.68%/hr. I understand that's phenomenal for level 192, but it's still incredibly grindy. At the rate she was going, it would take 55+ hours to gain one level up. I thought Big Bang was supposed to make it easier than this.

Okay what. Paul, she's 192, what'd you expect? to get 15% an hour? It's 8 levels away from 200. You have to achieve something, even if it is 150+ hours of mindless grinding. [/color]

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Thorr - 2010-07-08

This video is precisely the evidence I needed for all the fanboys screaming EZMODE LEVELING!!!

Combine the new Exp/Level monster curve with the new TNL curve and you still get an incredibly long grind at the higher levels. (This is precisely why AMs and Bishops have every right to be upset about losing their faster leveling capability.)

I calc'ed a TNL amount of 691M exp for level 191-192. That's 51% lower. The hero I was watching in the source video was getting 0.01% every 10-12 kills of COGs. It's still going to be slow, folks, even if it did get faster on the lower end.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - vx-2 - 2010-07-08

FluffyFoxxie Wrote:... Why is that BM so god awful weak? Is he using clean gear or some pomegranate? lvl 143? 200% per arrow shouldn't translate to ONLY 10k hits, that would put his range at 5k or something. He should have a lot higher than that with potential gear.

That dmg is totally suck and pathetic.... other Jobs at same level is so much better off

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Tamillan - 2010-07-08

Fiel Wrote:Why isn't anyone focusing on the exp rate?

Okay, she's level 192 and throughout the video she got 0.14% in roughly five minutes. Multiply that by 12 and she's getting 1.68%/hr. I understand that's phenomenal for level 192, but it's still incredibly grindy. At the rate she was going, it would take 55+ hours to gain one level up. I thought Big Bang was supposed to make it easier than this.

She was on 1x probably with no hs. thats why probably.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - IllegallySane - 2010-07-08

Fiel Wrote:Why isn't anyone focusing on the exp rate?

Okay, she's level 192 and throughout the video she got 0.14% in roughly five minutes. Multiply that by 12 and she's getting 1.68%/hr. I understand that's phenomenal for level 192, but it's still incredibly grindy. At the rate she was going, it would take 55+ hours to gain one level up. I thought Big Bang was supposed to make it easier than this.

On the other hand, I just did a quick calculation using our current EXP tables found on hiddenstreet. Correct me if I'm wrong on the EXP needed.

Taking 1.1b EXP under the current rates soloing (~12-15m EXP for a Hero) it'd take them 73-92 hours to level once at 192. It's true it's still grindy, but with a 2x card she'd be leveling in ~27 hours instead of ~36-46 hours, and it'd be even lower with family rep EXP.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Alloy - 2010-07-08

Is therer anywhere I can see both the new and old exp needed for all levels? If possible, compared to GMS too.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Takebacker - 2010-07-08

IllegallySane Wrote:and it'd be even lower with family rep EXP.

Not by much. Rep only gives 1.2x exp now.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Arroz - 2010-07-08

IllegallySane Wrote:On the other hand, I just did a quick calculation using our current EXP tables found on hiddenstreet. Correct me if I'm wrong on the EXP needed.

Taking 1.1b EXP under the current rates soloing (~12-15m EXP for a Hero) it'd take them 73-92 hours to level once at 192. It's true it's still grindy, but with a 2x card she'd be leveling in ~27 hours instead of ~36-46 hours, and it'd be even lower with family rep EXP.

even if it's a 1.2 multiplier now? eh 2.4x is still somthing

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Tamillan - 2010-07-08

Takebacker Wrote:Not by much. Rep only gives 1.2x exp now.

WHAT REALLY?

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - street - 2010-07-08

Fiel Wrote:Why isn't anyone focusing on the exp rate?

Okay, she's level 192 and throughout the video she got 0.14% in roughly five minutes. Multiply that by 12 and she's getting 1.68%/hr. I understand that's phenomenal for level 192, but it's still incredibly grindy. At the rate she was going, it would take 55+ hours to gain one level up. I thought Big Bang was supposed to make it easier than this.

on x4 that is roughly 6% an hr? I think that is pretty good

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - IllegallySane - 2010-07-08

Takebacker Wrote:Not by much. Rep only gives 1.2x exp now.

Still something. Although this will just make me more of a rep hog now (sitting on 300k rep. LOL)

Arroz Wrote:even if it's a 1.2 multiplier now? eh 2.4x is still somthing

Indeed gaining a 40% boost is still something, especially with the new lower EXP tables.

Takebacker Wrote:Except that's more exp/h than i get at level 163?

T.T

But that's ~3.7m EXP/hour at 163. I'm clocking high ~7m to low 8m an hour here. o.o

*Oh wait you meant her EXP/hour instead of %/hour? Nevermind.

**Yeah she's gaining ~14.7m/hour on 1x without using Brave Slash. That's crazy.

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - GodCanJudge - 2010-07-08

my kms friend tells me kms doesn't have 2x from cash shop, thats bassically the fastest she can go, or maybe my friend is a noob...

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Takebacker - 2010-07-08

IllegallySane Wrote:But that's ~3.7m EXP/hour at 163. I'm clocking high ~7m to low 8m an hour here. o.o

*Oh wait you meant her EXP/hour instead of %/hour? Nevermind.

No i just haven't trained in forever and when i do it was on 4x/2x/7.2x, so i got a little confused.

I don't even know what my %/h is anymore. D:

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - fulldraw - 2010-07-08

Does anyone know if they changed the other rings? could the cruel ring be better now o.0?

[1.2.326] (4) Really last chance! - Dusk - 2010-07-08

Fiel Wrote:Why isn't anyone focusing on the exp rate?

Okay, she's level 192 and throughout the video she got 0.14% in roughly five minutes. Multiply that by 12 and she's getting 1.68%/hr. I understand that's phenomenal for level 192, but it's still incredibly grindy. At the rate she was going, it would take 55+ hours to gain one level up. I thought Big Bang was supposed to make it easier than this.

I'd have to agree with the others here. I don't think Maple should suddenly become like other games where it takes a week to powerlevel a character up to max level, especially considering the lack of high level content. I'm all for increasing the exp rate, but not to the point where getting to level 200 is something anyone can do.

@Takebacker, last time I checked my Corsair got 7.5m exp/hr at O4 at level 164, which is 3%/hr. You're probably getting about the same.