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Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Dyxanije - 2011-04-21
Capricorn Wrote:It's not that great either though. Nice AoE and y-axis behaviour, but I tend to get nailed for flying up anyways. Since the quake OTGs as well that's pretty much the only thing it has over gale in my opinion. I'd also pretty much drop SitS now, never a real use other than to get a breather in bad spots.
Do you have the cancel? I'd imagine that x -> Phoenix Hammer would be pretty safe.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Dual - 2011-04-21
Mark Wrote:Max GWL. I strongly recommend maxing Gale. Max your weapon preference Mastery.
A point in Second upper and Smasher cancel will help you a lot. That'll leave you with 166 SP left. Also, something I need to edit about the guide: If you're gonna be serious with your Exo, you might wanna reconsider maxed SitS. Yes, it's powerful, but a lot of higher level bosses become immune to it, thus making it dead weight. In that regard, level 5 + cancel is good enough. Leaving you with some extra SP to plan with.
[COLOR="green"]Personally, I'd still recommend max. It's still a nice room clearer, despite the fact it becomes horrible at bossing.
Phoenix Hammer is pretty awesome at max, but it's still nowhere as powerful as SitS gets.[/COLOR]
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - IllegallySane - 2011-04-21
I'll just leave dis Male Brawler video here:
[video=youtube;IyVPlUf8Xa4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyVPlUf8Xa4&feature=related[/video]
>My face when Kings Vilmark
[video=youtube;LZlmQXJtBJM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZlmQXJtBJM&NR=1[/video]
My face when Hero's Road solo-ed
[video=youtube;8nnJFNziV5E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nnJFNziV5E&feature=related[/video]
Oh god, another Hero's Road soloed like it's nothing
[video=youtube;l-WSNavLZfs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-WSNavLZfs&feature=related[/video]
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Mark - 2011-04-21
DualReaver Wrote:[COLOR="green"]Personally, I'd still recommend max. It's still a nice room clearer, despite the fact it becomes horrible at bossing.
Phoenix Hammer is pretty awesome at max, but it's still nowhere as powerful as SitS gets.[/COLOR]
You have to consider party play as well. Spamming SitS and knocking mobs away can hinder your party pretty hard. Especially if you pull it out when someone is setting up for something major. It's powerful, I know, but when SI rolls around you're gonna want more SP to play with for max LSP or Strike. Strike never gets enough credit.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - IllegallySane - 2011-04-21
Mark Wrote:You have to consider party play as well. Spamming SitS and knocking mobs away can hinder your party pretty hard. Especially if you pull it out when someone is setting up for something major. It's powerful, I know, but when SI rolls around you're gonna want more SP to play with for max LSP or Strike. Strike never gets enough credit.
Strike will be moot because in 2nd Impact for 3 TP you can get +10% hit rate before counting Passion Charkra and Weapon Mastery, permanently.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Mark - 2011-04-21
Not talking about hit rate. As your Vitality goes up, so does Strike's attack increase.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Tay - 2011-04-21
lol male SF
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Piggy 2.0 - 2011-04-21
Removed Slow heal, and added phys crit.
Tiem to get him to 18!
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Mark - 2011-04-21
You don't need level 5 Smasher for the cancel. Also, is there a reason why you maxed Slow Heal over Physical Critical hit?
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Capricorn - 2011-04-21
Dyxanije Wrote:Do you have the cancel? I'd imagine that x -> Phoenix Hammer would be pretty safe.
Cancels are definitely a PvP thing more than anything, because you're still vulnerable as you jump anyways. Then comes the lingering enemy AoEs and flying bullets straight up along the z axis outta nowhar. And of course even though I have it, I really use it for the AoE rather than anything sadly....
DualReaver Wrote:[COLOR="green"]Personally, I'd still recommend max. It's still a nice room clearer, despite the fact it becomes horrible at bossing.
Phoenix Hammer is pretty awesome at max, but it's still nowhere as powerful as SitS gets.[/COLOR]
Errythang Mark said. Except Strike, because I can have sadars do that for me :3c
It's not that I hate strike or anything, I just feel like it's wasted when you can't even cap it like sadars....
Mark Wrote:You don't need level 5 Smasher for the cancel. Also, is there a reason why you maxed Slow Heal over Physical Critical hit?
Physical crit only amounts to 5% total damage increase overall, how much you value that over slow heal is rather subjective isn't it?
If I had to revise my build again, I'd take out my phoenix hammer and SitS and try LSP and smasher olololol, and probably opt for slow heal (sinceyoucanmax) as well instead of crit.
Edit: the more I revise, I might as well go for pvp hybrid and pvp only all dayyyyyy
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - MasPan - 2011-04-22
Capricorn Wrote:Cancels are definitely a PvP thing more than anything, because you're still vulnerable as you jump anyways. Then comes the lingering enemy AoEs and flying bullets straight up along the z axis outta nowhar. And of course even though I have it, I really use it for the AoE rather than anything sadly....
Errythang Mark said. Except Strike, because I can have sadars do that for me :3c
It's not that I hate strike or anything, I just feel like it's wasted when you can't even cap it like sadars....
Physical crit only amounts to 5% total damage increase overall, how much you value that over slow heal is rather subjective isn't it?
If I had to revise my build again, I'd take out my phoenix hammer and SitS and try LSP and smasher olololol, and probably opt for slow heal (sinceyoucanmax) as well instead of crit.
Edit: the more I revise, I might as well go for pvp hybrid and pvp only all dayyyyyy
Not really, no - Slow Heal is a luxury, PCrit is damage.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Capricorn - 2011-04-22
Even if it's damage, I myself prefer a luxury I instead can share. Yeah, I know pots work but these are nifty 900 heals x 16 uses.
But then again you could use sharp/eagle eyes since physical and all too. But since this is SP we're working with though, I guess it's not as expendable.
Piggy 2.0 Wrote:Removed Slow heal, and added phys crit.
Drop Phoenix/Chaos Hammer cancels useless as hell for anything since you could instead cancel into grabs. This gives you enough SP to do whatever.
Edit: I realized without those cancels this looks mighty familiar to Mark's previous pexo build loooooooooool. Minus SitS, of course.
Editedit: BECOME OUR HERO AND INSTEAD OF DOING THE OLD GALE SMASH ROUTINE OPT FOR A MAXED SMASHER AND LSP BUILD PLEASE.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Anihpares - 2011-04-22
![[Image: Dollmaker.png]](http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/Mushie_/DFO/Dollmaker.png)
Dollmaking? Yeah, I know a thing or two about it.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - FelixTM - 2011-04-22
omg I missed it. ;_;
Congrats Sera! Awesome work.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - IllegallySane - 2011-04-22
Awww yeah. Gonna mass send you mats for Pocket Hugos, Sera!
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Dual - 2011-04-22
What happens if I make Hugo buff a FS Crusader. where is your god now
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - IllegallySane - 2011-04-22
DualReaver Wrote:What happens if I make Hugo buff a FS Crusader. where is your god now
Then brace for incoming oil flasks and bombs from the party.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Raph589 - 2011-04-22
I just realized my awakening is in 2 levels. Considering I'm a pve build and only have 125 vp, I need them suuuuper fast. What would be the best way to get them. I totally fail at pvp and I'm not really good in ToD. The best thing I'm seeing right now is farming ToI to the death but it only gives me 21 vp/run...
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Mark - 2011-04-22
Whenever I'm not busy I have a character you can beat on in PvP for the VP.
Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Tay - 2011-04-22
New PvP system in kDnF aghhhh@@@@@@@@