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Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Kyrastri - 2014-07-15
meowmixx Wrote:rip
anyone get any nightly PMs or visits?
I didn't get anything.
CakesXD Wrote:I guess Meta got roleblocked like HolyPie did on Night 1.
Not necessarily. We have the roleblocked word from when Holypie was blocked, but she didn't quote it.
meowmixx Wrote:oh yea soo this morning i was bored so i put this whole game on my bedroom wall like some creepy stalker. anyway i decided to compare this game to the last, just to get a feel of yall. faonkarino; you in both this and last game are chock full of knowledge. and u were on the baddie side that time. maybe u are this time too. i gotz my stink eye on u
I keep a notebook for mafia games :3
As for referring to the previous game, haven't we already condemned meta-gaming? Faon shouldn't be condemned on the basis that he was helpful and mafia last game unless you have more conclusive evidence. I've referred to the past game in my theory crafting but I refer to the tactics only, not the people who did them and you should do likewise.
Niernen Wrote:That's a good point, has he done anything scummy that has stoop out to you particularly? Then again, it would have probably be equally suspicious if he didn't do anything instead or made worthless posts. Seems to be more of his playstyle just like Luv has his own. Guess we have to be careful, suspecting people for posting knowledge could be a road to go down but it could be dangerous if we suspect everyone that posts well... Kyrastri has also made some really great and detailed posts, but I'm pretty sure she is a townie since we know her power and it doesn't seem too bad yet. Guess its something to keep in mind if we don't have something else to go one. But remember, as TheBirds said, we probably should not be playing a meta-game. He posted similarly to last game too but he had an explanation somewhere why meta-game was bad.
Polantaris made the explanation why meta-gaming was bad.
Olsi Wrote:This is why Im split. If the mafia killed maspan despite his restriction they either:
A. Have a mafia cop
B. Just guessed he had a restriction because he had a good power, therefore a reasonable threat despite the restriction
Option A is by far the least likely so lets go from there. Option B means the the mafia just killed him assuming he had a power that needed a restriction. This means that they probably think the same thing about meta, and therefore used an ability on him (potentially a role block)
However Meta has a history of making really high risk high reward plays and this would definitely be one of them, show to have a restriction then pretend to get role blocked to prove innocence and not have to post much and incriminate herself. It would be a very classic high risk high reward move.
Thoughts?
The Shidoshi theories still apply to MasPan, though the likelihood of a more specific role cop (as traditionally role cops only give town/not town alignment information and are more useful in identifying neutrals) is much higher now that we have the second critical role killed. It is likely that the role identifier is a day action if Shidoshi had a shifty death rather than a more random one.
Niernen Wrote:I feel like Meta is lying about having no power, from what we have seen so far pretty much everyone has a power. The only reasons she would keep quiet about it is she can not reveal her power, weather because it would get her killed by the mafia or because it would reveal she is mafia I don't know.
As TheBirds pointed out, she could simply have a day action.
Day action or not, Meta should still be considered somewhat suspicious (but not a priority) until we can find a way to get her to talk a little more normally, since revealing results would be difficult if she had a day action even if she wanted to reveal. It's possible that our entire chance of helping her was ruined when Shidoshi died.
We have no confirmation of whether day actions all do good, either.
LuvDWayULie Wrote:I meant I kinda knew what his PM gonna say.
For someone who was trying not to say anything about their actions that wasn't very subtle.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-15
I don't even know at this point... [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION];, what are you even doing?
You say you wont reveal till needed. You call out Verrkol. You hint that you used your power on Verrkol. [URL="http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=74246&page=24&p=1265663&viewfull=1#post1265663"]You just come out and admit it (why did you wait and make the previous post useless?)
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[MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; Thank you. I don't get what Luv is doing, saying he will wait then making multiple posts just to say that he used his power on Verrkol, it just looks odd. And my bad about the meta-game post, thought Thebirds had also mentioned it, but that may have been in defense.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-15
It wasn't meant to be subtle
I have nothing to lose, so I'm gonna be as open as I can, even though I will get lynched
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Polantaris - 2014-07-15
LuvDWayULie Wrote:I'm a worm, which can infect people at night time. During the day time, I can choose to vote on one day, and who got infected will be following my vote. (Yeah, a vote-altering kind of role). BUT, I will die soon after.
This is going to sound like a very weird question. What is your tag when you decide to do this action? IE: Something like [Tag] Player, when you select a player? Probably too straight forward about this but I can't think of any way to edge this in a less obvious way.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - VerrKol - 2014-07-15
LuvDWayULie Wrote:I meant I kinda knew what his PM gonna say.
Because you infected me.
HOWEVER, my PM makes me extremely wary of you and your supposed pro Town intentions. I am required to spread your plague or die each and every night. This means an exponential increase in the rate of infection. This to me smells of you lying about your win condition to gain the towns confidence and alliance. I strongly suspect your real win condition is to infect everyone, regardless of alliance. Your ability is far to powerful to merely autowin by surviving.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-15
Polantaris Wrote:This is going to sound like a very weird question. What is your tag when you decide to do this action? IE: Something like [Tag] Player, when you select a player? Probably too straight forward about this but I can't think of any way to edge this in a less obvious way.
[Infect] Player. It's okay, I can be as transparent as you all want.
Haha, VerrKol, if you have not voted, I would not have thought of activating my abilities today. But since you have, I'm going to use it today, unless the others oppose.. (Your choice, people. Tell me what do you want me to do today)
Because I changed my mind, Niernen. I can't afford to keep a mafia at bay another day. And I believe VerrKol is a mafia.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-15
LuvDWayULie Wrote:[Infect] Player. It's okay, I can be as transparent as you all want.
Haha, VerrKol, if you have not voted, I would not have thought of activating my abilities today. But since you have, I'm going to use it today, unless the others oppose.. (Your choice, people. Tell me what do you want me to do today)
Well, you did admit that your power was a worm that spreads earlier, but if Verrkol is telling the truth, it looks more likely your win condition is infecting the town and not simply surviving. We don't know enough at this point or if you were originally telling the truth about your vote manipulation. Seems difficult to have multiple vote manipulators because their powers may conflict. I would rather you don't use your powers until we know more.
Why do you always seem so eager to by lynched?
Also, I'm going to guess that there is probably a counter roll to try and slow the infection. If we contain one a day, the mafia contains another, we lose 2 a day. If Luv needs to infect everyone, it becomes much easier as time passes. First night is one infection, second night is 2, and we lose 1-2 more townies.... he really does not need too much time.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-15
Niernen Wrote:Well, you did admit that your power was a worm that spreads earlier, but if Verrkol is telling the truth, it looks more likely your win condition is infecting the town and not simply surviving. We don't know enough at this point or if you were originally telling the truth about your vote manipulation. Seems difficult to have multiple vote manipulators because their powers may conflict.Err, don't waste a lynch on me. I will automatically die if I vote.
Why do you always seem so eager to by lynched?
I have chosen my side as a Neutral in helping Town to win.
Do check on my edited post.
Good idea on the mafia version. I dunno whether it's true or not, but I guess it's possible. I did not know VerrKol has to spread to someone else until today. Don't forget I infected Shidoshi at the first day but then he died, so I didn't know what's gonna happen until now.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-15
LuvDWayULie Wrote:Err, don't waste a lynch on me. I will automatically die if I vote.
I have chosen my side as a Neutral in helping Town to win.
Do check on my edited post.
"I have nothing to lose, so I'm gonna be as open as I can, even though I will get lynched "
You used will, not something like may. And could you link me to your edited post? Not sure what post you are referring to.
Wait, are you saying you can control the infected votes also? That seems OP, because at a certain point you can just vote off who ever you want and infect the rest (but you die if you do so?).
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-15
Niernen Wrote:"I have nothing to lose, so I'm gonna be as open as I can, even though I will get lynched "
You used will, not something like may. And could you link me to your edited post? Not sure what post you are referring to.
Dang it, wrong word. Replace lynch with die. I slipped up a word.
The one I posted before you posted. I gave a reason why I changed my mind.
That's the point of my post. I infect someone, and by doing that, I can control their votesand choose one day to vote, then I'll die.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Polantaris - 2014-07-15
So here's why I don't believe you, [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION];
1) Two vote influencing powers?
2) Why would your vote influencing power make you die while Chaz had no negative effect at all?
3) In fact, his had a doubly positive effect of making them use their ability, if they had one, on a specific target as well.
4) VerrKol's point towards you and what they have to do fits your role way more. Infect in a digital scenario usually includes infecting as many others as possible.
I think you're either:
A) Full of pomegranate.
B) Leaving out way too many details to be trustworthy.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-15
Wait what? Leaving too much details? I friggin posted my entire rephrased PM, and I decided to use my powers today. Oh well, Iccan't defend myself as I have an exam today. So be it.
You're wasting your votes on me. I'll activate my powers and die at the end of the day if no one opposes.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-15
LuvDWayULie Wrote:That's the point of my post. I infect someone, and by doing that, I can control their votesand choose one day to vote, then I'll die.
So you are going to make Verrkol change his vote to himself and hopefully take him with you? Seems like a waste of your power so early, especially since even if you are right and he is mafia, the town loses you and you have no idea if he will even get contained. And I saw the edit, thanks, that makes much more sense now, as well as the typo.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-15
Niernen Wrote:So you are going to make Verrkol change his vote to himself and hopefully take him with you? Seems like a waste of your power so early, especially since even if you are right and he is mafia, the town loses you and you have no idea if he will even get contained. And I saw the edit, thanks, that makes much more sense now, as well as the typo.
Yes, Niernen. I have no choice. My role has been exposed. I'll die either by myself or the mafia killing me..
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - Niernen - 2014-07-15
LuvDWayULie Wrote:My role has been exposed.
I wonder how that happened
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-15
Niernen Wrote:I wonder how that happened
Well, it's quite inevitable in Day 2... You all voted against me, so I had to expose myself to keep myself alive.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - VerrKol - 2014-07-15
LuvDWayULie Wrote:Well, it's quite inevitable in Day 2... You all voted against me, so I had to expose myself to keep myself alive.
I really was actually trying to help you lol even if it did come out the wrong way.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-15
VerrKol Wrote:I really was actually trying to help you lol even if it did come out the wrong way.
Hmm, we'll see..
It's actually up to you all lol. Tell me who do you want to be voted out.
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - meowmixx - 2014-07-15
[MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; are u like 100% sure u wanna use ur ability? like how r u sure u know whos a baddie and who isnt. we dont want any unnecessary boo boos. at least think it through a bit
Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS - LuvDWayULie - 2014-07-15
meowmixx Wrote:LuvDWayULie; are u like 100% sure u wanna use ur ability? like how r u sure u know whos a baddie and who isnt. we dont want any unnecessary boo boos. at least think it through a bit
Yes meow. As I said earlier, I will die no matter what.