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#Gamergate - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-10-14
KhainiWest Wrote:What the f`uck are you talking aboutYou're saying stereo supports rapists and Nazis because their sole intent is to have sex. How exactly is any of that relevant? And where exactly are the logical jumps here, because I'm ignorant and I'm missing something here.
#Gamergate - KhainiWest - 2014-10-14
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:You're saying stereo supports rapists and Nazis because their sole intent is to have sex. How exactly is any of that relevant? And where exactly are the logical jumps here, because I'm ignorant and I'm missing something here.
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y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:You're saying stereo supports rapists and Nazis because their sole intent is to have sex.
..No. I mocked that 'generalization' since he was the first to pull the MAHHHSONOGYYY card.
Nazi: Ian Miles Cheong
Literally a skin head in an asian body. I'm not exagerating, he had plans to purge China.
Rapist: Zoe Quinn
If you actually read the chat logs, Zoe Quinn was a divorcee, and has said in previous interviews that when infidelity is a factor in a relationship, if that person willingly sleeps with another partner, then go to f`ucking their spouse without letting them know, then they are a rapist. It makes sense, I mean, I wouldn't sleep with my wife all willy nilly if she slept with another guy, and it certaintly wouldn't be consensual if I knew about it.
Well Zoe Quinn, that darling evidently, raped at least 5 times. By her own wisdom, so you can take that moral high ground to her I suppose.
#Gamergate - Eliseo - 2014-10-14
Stereo Wrote:[color=#a000e0]Because the movement is about a group of people who can't accept when reporting is unbiased.
Obviously not the sexism. Never the sexism.
??irony?????????????[b][b]
By this, are you saying I should accept that all gaming reporting is biased and I must live with it?
Gamergate is about changing the journalism in the gaming world, to improve, and to remove certain toxic people within the community.
NO ONE is denying that there is sexism. There is sexism everywhere.
If you want a movement that deals with the sexism in the world, become a feminist.
Many true feminist have already sided with gamergate, and the lies and deceit a lot of the "journalists" are typing up are just to cover their scandals.
#Gamergate - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-10-14
I thought nobody cared about Zoe Quinn anymore though.
So how does being anti-GamerGate suddenly mean you're supporting her? I don't agree with the insanity of this thread? I guess Anita and Zoe are my girlfriends now!
Because here I'm reading two different things. Here I'm reading that GamerGate is both about journalism and about apparently showing people that they are "ass backwards"
#Gamergate - Chew - 2014-10-14
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#Gamergate - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-10-14
I don't know, Chew. I thought this, as a forum, was about facilitating discussion, not attacking people and making a mockery of them.
I could give less of a pineapple if you think I'm stupid. I know I am. But attacking Stereo because their views don't align with your own? THAT'S ignorance to me.
And if you don't see that type of behavior as a campaign founded on hate, there's something fundamentally wrong.
#Gamergate - KhainiWest - 2014-10-14
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:I thought nobody cared about Zoe Quinn anymore though.
Gamergate doesn't care about Zoe Quinn anymore, Anti GG still does and use her as a scapegoat.
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:So how does being anti-GamerGate suddenly mean you're supporting her? I don't agree with the insanity of this thread? I guess Anita and Zoe are my girlfriends now!
'GAMERGATE IS A HATE MOVEMENT AGAINST ZOE BECAUSE OF HER GENDER, SAME WITH THESE TWO OTHER GIRLS, THEY WANT WOMEN OUT OF GAMING'.
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Because here I'm reading two different things. Here I'm reading that GamerGate is both about journalism and about apparently showing people that they are "ass backwards"
Uh, you have anti gamergate harassing boogie, Gaymerx, intel, and anyone who doesn't agree with their ideology. They justify this crusade by the points stereo makes which is "gamergate is a hate movement, look at poor zoe Quinn!"
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:I don't know, Chew. I thought this, as a forum, was about facilitating discussion, not attacking people and making a mockery of them.
I could give less of a pineapple if you think I'm stupid. I know I am. But attacking Stereo because their views don't align with your own? THAT'S ignorance to me.
And if you don't see that type of behavior as a campaign founded on hate, there's something fundamentally wrong.
How do you function? Go read stereo's first few posts, they were antagonistic and not for discussion, they were for belittlement, based on a planet size amount of fallacies. Asking why he supports morally bankrupt people is a very valid question, with a very disappointing answer unfortunately.
#Gamergate - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-10-14
And have I said...any of those things?
Go read any other post in this entire thread. The entire thread has been antagonistic and not for discussion. I can kind of see why someone would respond to it in that manner, yeah.
#Gamergate - KhainiWest - 2014-10-14
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:And have I said...any of those things?
Go read any other post in this entire thread. The entire thread has been antagonistic and not for discussion. I can kind of see why someone would respond to it in that manner, yeah.
...Yes you actually have, in fact that was the whole reason we essentially asked you to leave because you came in saying "This isn't worth the harassment zoe Quinn got!". There have been 3 users who have came into this thread, including you, who have agreed that gamergate is just a hate movement, which is disrespectful, ignorant and frankly asinine.
#Gamergate - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-10-14
That was at the start of the entire debacle where zoe quinn was literally the only topic. It's kind of hard not to include her in the discussion when she IS the discussion. But I guess a thread titled "Five Guys Burgers and wait what-" about how a girl had sex with five guys has NOTHING to do with her and I shouldn't have mentioned her. My bad.
And no, it's still not worth any of it. But having that opinion should still apparently be expelled from the discussion.
And no, saying that it's pointless is not defending/supporting it.
#Gamergate - KhainiWest - 2014-10-14
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:That was at the start of the entire debacle where zoe quinn was literally the only topic.
You do realize that the entire topic changed four days after this thread was made right? I'm too lazy to check but you're welcome to see when you actually did your first contribution, I can almost guarantee it was after this whole Zoe thing.
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:It's kind of hard not to include her in the discussion when she IS the discussion. But I guess a thread titled "Five Guys Burgers and wait what-" about how a girl had sex with five guys has NOTHING to do with her and I shouldn't have mentioned her. My bad.
Further proof you don't read. Zoe Quinn hasn't been the topic since Stereo started posting, well topic is the wrong word, even mentioned. If she was mentioned it was to stress how anti GG use her as a meat shield or justification to send people syringes in the mail.
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:And no, it's still not worth any of it. But having that opinion should still apparently be expelled from the discussion.
And no, saying that it's pointless is not defending/supporting it.
Yes, in my thread, an ignorant opinion has no place here and will be criticized, that's your choice when stating your opinion. But I love how you have completely ignored every single retort and open up with "LOOK IM NOT SMART BUT THIS DOESNT MAKE SENSE", it's like dealing with a child in his/her stage where she constantly asks WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY.
#Gamergate - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-10-14
Thread was made on the 19th. I posted on the 20th. ??????
And again, Stereo bringing it up literally has nothing to do with me here. "Did I say any of those things?" "STEREO MENTIONED IT!"
#Gamergate - KhainiWest - 2014-10-14
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Thread was made on the 19th. I posted on the 20th. ??????
And again, Stereo bringing it up literally has nothing to do with me here. "Did I say any of those things?" "STEREO MENTIONED IT!"
It's funny because I made you go back and look so you would re-read the posts, and you couldn't even do that right. LOL. Nearly every response explained that Zoe Quinn should be held accountable for using her unethical actions to sway the opinion people had of her.
You were even the one who mentioned Zoe was an asswipe to begin with, which means gamergate hasn't been harassing people have been.
I mean are you this scatterbrained? I mean I know you're upset for calling you out for being a virgin (I don't know why?) but jesus you're trying too hard. You attempted to make the allegation that Zoe Quinn is the topic, and that I was contradicting, when the reality is, Stereo was using her, as does anti GG as a meat shield to justify their stance, even though gamergate has named her "the girl who shall not be named". I mean seriously how much clearer does it need to be
#Gamergate - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-10-14
What? Is everything really that black and white to you? Yes, Zoe should've been held accountable for her actions. Yes, she's an asswipe. Was the backlash for it necessary? No, not in the slightest. Was it necessary for the entirety of the internet to put her in the spotlight? No, not in the slightest. How are these things contradictory?
I never said Zoe is the topic. I said Zoe WAS the topic at the time of thread's creation - when you said I was talking about her.
#Gamergate - KhainiWest - 2014-10-14
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:What? Is everything really that black and white to you? Yes, Zoe should've been held accountable for her actions. Yes, she's an asswipe. Was the backlash for it necessary? No, not in the slightest. Was it necessary for the entirety of the internet to put her in the spotlight? No, not in the slightest. How are these things contradictory?
I never said Zoe is the topic. I said Zoe WAS the topic at the time of thread's creation - when you said I was talking about her.
I don't even think you know what you're talking about anymore.
1) Zoe is deemed an awful person and eventually was treated like an awful person, this is not currently and has been a mere blip in gamergates history. It is currently not affiliated with gamergate, gamergate doesn't deal with zoe or anita. Anti gg does.
2) You were asking why we were talking about Zoe, I explained stereo brought her up. That anti GG has brought her up as they believe this is a gender issue.
It is not, it has never been and never will be a gender issue. Thus all anti GG falls flat on their face because that is their only stance and only slander that is a complete façade.
#Gamergate - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-10-14
KhainiWest Wrote:1) Zoe is deemed an awful person and eventually was treated like an awful person, this is not currently and has been a mere blip in gamergates history. It is currently not affiliated with gamergate, gamergate doesn't deal with zoe or anita. Anti gg does.Yes, and I've agreed with this about 3 times now.
Quote:2) You were asking why we were talking about Zoe, I explained stereo brought her up. That anti GG has brought her up as they believe this is a gender issue.And also about 3 times now I've clarified that I was asking about why you were referring to Zoe with regards to me and my "two crushes" when I didn't bring them up in the first place.
Quote:It is not, it has never been and never will be a gender issue. Thus all anti GG falls flat on their face because that is their only stance and only slander that is a complete façade.And I still mentioned none of this. Literally, none of this was mentioned in any of my recent posts here.
Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now?
#Gamergate - Words - 2014-10-14
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:I don't know, Chew. I thought this, as a forum, was about facilitating discussion, not attacking people and making a mockery of them.
I could give less of a pineapple if you think I'm stupid. I know I am. But attacking Stereo because their views don't align with your own? THAT'S ignorance to me.
And if you don't see that type of behavior as a campaign founded on hate, there's something fundamentally wrong.
I don't think anyone attacked Stereo but his posts/ideas. Mocking his ideas by presenting an adequate analogy isn't ignorant or an attack on his character; it's discussion. Pointing out double standards, questioning support of "shady" people isn't an attack on him. On the other hand he was trying to discredit our point by calling us names and saying things about our character: either we hate woman and are filled with hate or we are ignorant morons who follow people who do hate woman. Or comparing us to mass murders, terrorists, etc.
Anyway, there's only one post that attacks Stero and it didn't come from a #GamerGate supporter. But you won't call that one out, instead we're supporters of a campaign founded on hate.
#Gamergate - KhainiWest - 2014-10-14
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Yes, and I've agreed with this about 3 times now.
And also about 3 times now I've clarified that I was asking about why you were referring to Zoe with regards to me and my "two crushes" when I didn't bring them up in the first place.
And I still mentioned none of this. Literally, none of this was mentioned in any of my recent posts here.
Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now?
So what you're trying to say is, you're anti GG but do not support either anita nor Zoe but also don't agree about their harassment?
#Gamergate - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-10-14
KhainiWest Wrote:So what you're trying to say is, you're anti GG but do not support either anita nor Zoe but also don't agree about their harassment?Is this an impossible stance to take?
Minus the anita part, I suppose. If I didn't like her because she was a radical on the internet I would hate the majority of the internet.
And Words:
When I see people compare SJW to mass murderers, terrorists, etc I don't exactly see your point.
#Gamergate - KhainiWest - 2014-10-14
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Is this an impossible stance to take?
What does that have to do with Gamergate?