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Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Hypermug - 2014-08-12
For our disablers, who did you all target last night?
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-08-12
I was going to target Kyra, but my PM didn't go through. I wasn't home so I sent it on my phone and I guess my phone wasn't very reliable.
But I got tentacle'd anyway so :?
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Words - 2014-08-12
LuvDWayULie Wrote:But on the other hand, I don't like Holypie's way of lying to us. I know he was trying to protect himself by fakeclaiming, but then, his claim as a cop is so convincing that I fell for it. So, he could be lying that he's a Voltorb revenge-killer.
He isn't lying. I got that in my PM too but I had no reason to reveal that. How do you get to the conclusion that he was trying to protect himself? To me it looks like he was trying to protect me and take someone down next night... shame he claimed on someone I had already investigated.
I don't know how Simple's claim is related to HolyPie's and now it looks like you're derailing to protect Kyra. And who did you target last night?
I'm curious about [MENTION=7423]TheBirds[/MENTION]; silence all the sudden too. Did he post at all yesterday? What about [MENTION=814]MasPan[/MENTION];?
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Holypie - 2014-08-12
LuvDWayULie Wrote:But on the other hand, I don't like Holypie's way of lying to us. I know he was trying to protect himself by fakeclaiming, but then, his claim as a cop is so convincing that I fell for it. So, he could be lying that he's a Voltorb revenge-killer.
I wasn't trying to save myself, I was trying to die...? I wanted to do that because VerrKol was sketchy, so that I divert attention from the doctor, and so I could kill another mafia during the night. That obviously didn't work, so yeah.
Also, does this mean that there are three protective roles? CJ, Polantaris, and meta? Combined with four role blockers? What the hell is this game.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Hypermug - 2014-08-12
Words Wrote:He isn't lying. I got that in my PM too but I had no reason to reveal that. How do you get to the conclusion that he was trying to protect himself? To me it looks like he was trying to protect me and take someone down next night... shame he claimed on someone I had already investigated.
I don't know how Simple's claim is related to HolyPie's and now it looks like you're derailing to protect Kyra. And who did you target last night?
I'm curious about TheBirds; silence all the sudden too. Did he post at all yesterday? What about MasPan;?
I'll save LuvD the hassle and answer that for you. He helped kill xBTAx, and going by his previous posts, you would have thought he actually cared about his death. His attack went through if I'm reading my PM correctly, although xBTAx did end up reflecting someone else's attack.
I'm revealing my power now and taking a huge risk, so I apologize everyone. I'd rather be targeted than Words.
The first night I watched Meow. She kissed Kyastri. The second night I watched Simple transform into Words. Last night I watched xBTAx get attacked.
So yeah, no more trusting LuvD.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - MasPan - 2014-08-12
Words Wrote:Ok, Niernen didn't answer my PM so I'm just going with what I got. No results because someone confused me, the second part of the PM I'm not sure of because it seems to be incomplete but it says that a doll appeared and it might distract others. I'd assume it's related to what Meta posted earlier.[COLOR="#cc8899"]
I can vouch for this - I used Leech Seed on you last night and found a small doll. It disappeared once the night ended, though.
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I was out fishing towards the end of Day 3.
[MENTION=22]Hypermug[/MENTION]; kindof a risk to come out - I think we'd mostly established that [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; was probably mafian if [MENTION=10411]Kyrastri[/MENTION]; is because of the Spore shenanigans.
[vote]Kyrastri;[/COLOR]
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-08-12
Mug what's your power though...?
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - CakesXD - 2014-08-12
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Mug what's your power though...?
Watcher.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-08-12
Ability. Pokemon move.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - TheBirds - 2014-08-12
Hypermug Wrote:This bloody sucks. I am very curious as to who killed Polantaris. Did TheBirds ever evolve?not yet
Holypie Wrote:Also, does this mean that there are three protective roles? CJ, Polantaris, and meta? Combined with four role blockers? What the hell is this game.well, with CJ i think he was the so called "poison doctor" since his PM talked about recovering HP and y0y0y0 talked about how he was supposed to take critical damage from poison
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - CakesXD - 2014-08-12
Flash/Minimize, maybe? Can't really find relevant moves for spying on people.
@Niernen; If it's not too much to ask, could you put the Role PMs of dead people in the first post of this thread?
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - VerrKol - 2014-08-12
Okay this shouldn't have any impact on today's votes since we have a more immediate target, but I'll throw this theory out there. I think MasPan is probably the god father.
He claimed his ability was leech seed and that it had a 50% chance of transferring status/move affects to himself. Yet, he can apparently verify that Meta used his power on Words even though it didn't activate since presumably Polantaris took the hit for him. Since everyone without a protective power should have expected Words to die in the night, why would he target him and risk taking damage or status ailments? Why didn't he also get confused when Words did?
His day 2 shenanigans were extremely suspicious. He firsts suggests that either Holy or myself are the god father. I think Holy and I are low enough on the radar now to make this look suspicious. Then tries to make Holy seem like a random or insane cop in order to protect Kyrastri. Then suggests that all 3 cops investigate him to "confirm" sanity despite no one having any suspicion of him at all.
Either MasPan has the most OP ability I've ever heard of or he's lying through his teeth. In any case, we should be able to confirm this quickly after Kyrastri's death. [Vote]: Kyrastri
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - LuvDWayULie - 2014-08-12
Words Wrote:He isn't lying. I got that in my PM too but I had no reason to reveal that. How do you get to the conclusion that he was trying to protect himself? To me it looks like he was trying to protect me and take someone down next night... shame he claimed on someone I had already investigated.
I don't know how Simple's claim is related to HolyPie's and now it looks like you're derailing to protect Kyra. And who did you target last night?
I'm curious about TheBirds; silence all the sudden too. Did he post at all yesterday? What about MasPan;?
Hypermug Wrote:I'll save LuvD the hassle and answer that for you. He helped kill xBTAx, and going by his previous posts, you would have thought he actually cared about his death. His attack went through if I'm reading my PM correctly, although xBTAx did end up reflecting someone else's attack.I believe I have to break this down into a few things:
I'm revealing my power now and taking a huge risk, so I apologize everyone. I'd rather be targeted than Words.
The first night I watched Meow. She kissed Kyastri. The second night I watched Simple transform into Words. Last night I watched xBTAx get attacked.
So yeah, no more trusting LuvD.
1. I don't believe Holypie doing so is ONLY protecting you, Words. He's protecting himself too, and that's killing two birds with one stone! Also, I'm not derailing from Kyra. Why would I wanna derail from someone who has suspected me and even blocked me? I'm only providing an alternative, as I had always been doing. Is that wrong?
2. I honestly believe that xBTAx was acting scummy by not posting actively, and being especially secretive about his type. So, I targeted him and it turned out that he died, not by me but by someone else. I have no idea who did it, but it's not me, Hyper. You must have been looking at the attacker, not the roleblocker, as you have said earlier.
3. No more trusting me? I have been one of the most transparent person in the game. I revealed everything I did at night, my role, my type. EVERYTHING. Wow, every single game I get this treatment even though I'm just a Townie. Every freaking time. I'm honestly fed up with you guys suspecting me and consequently lynching me. What did I do wrong? You told me not to do this, I didn't do this, you told me to do that, I did that. I feel really annoyed, seriously.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - CakesXD - 2014-08-12
Sorry Luv, I'm more inclined to believe Hypermug because:
1. Your reaction to xBTAx's death seemed a bit... overdone.
2. Oh, big surprise. You've claimed as an Electric-type with Thunder, and it seems that xBTAx was hit by a super-effective attack. You probably only Paralyzed Polantaris because of the Ground-typing (which should have made him immune, but that's another topic), but your Thunder is probably lethal to anyone who is weak to it (right now, I bet VerrKol and TheBirds would be severely injured if you targeted them, if their claims are in fact true).
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - MasPan - 2014-08-12
VerrKol Wrote:Okay this shouldn't have any impact on today's votes since we have a more immediate target, but I'll throw this theory out there. I think MasPan is probably the god father.[COLOR="#cc8899"]
He claimed his ability was leech seed and that it had a 50% chance of transferring status/move affects to himself. Yet, he can apparently verify that Meta used his power on Words even though it didn't activate since presumably Polantaris took the hit for him. Since everyone without a protective power should have expected Words to die in the night, why would he target him and risk taking damage or status ailments? Why didn't he also get confused when Words did?
His day 2 shenanigans were extremely suspicious. He firsts suggests that either Holy or myself are the god father. I think Holy and I are low enough on the radar now to make this look suspicious. Then tries to make Holy seem like a random or insane cop in order to protect Kyrastri. Then suggests that all 3 cops investigate him to "confirm" sanity despite no one having any suspicion of him at all.
Either MasPan has the most OP ability I've ever heard of or he's lying through his teeth. In any case, we should be able to confirm this quickly after Kyrastri's death. [Vote]: Kyrastri
I found a doll. Nothing about that says it was used or took a hit. I didn't get attacked either. Just because Words apparently was not attacked is not a reason I can't copy the sub, any more so than me getting "Healed" on Night 2. Substitute is a positive status, hell it can even be Baton Pass'd. Again you're stretching details to try to make a flawed argument.
As for why I targeted him, I (apparently correctly) assumed someone would try to protect him and was hoping to benefit from it.
Day 2 I suggested Holypie may be insane because there was at least one other cop/watcher type role that hadn't come public. Hell, he said YOU were mafia and you later reacted saying your death would prove he was insane. I suggested cops investigate me after [MENTION=2351]Simple[/MENTION]; threw a huge accusation my way - I didn't want that to become a bandwagon in the following days.
I don't know what personal vendetta you have against me but get the bug out of your arse and stop twisting facts / events to suit your accusations.[/COLOR]
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - VerrKol - 2014-08-12
To play devil's advocate for a moment, let us assume Holypie is the godfather or similarly protected mafioso.
He claims cop to try to push lynching me. Since I was acting fairly scummy, he can simply claim that he hadn't actually investigated me and it was all a big mistake.
His Voltorb claim works as the perfect explanation for this. His ability is one time only so it can't be disproven by any powers except something that detects even passive abilities which is pretty rare. It explains away why he falsely claimed cop and gives the town incentive for not killing him.
I don't actually think he's mafia based on the way he's playing, but it would be a masterful disguise if he were.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Hypermug - 2014-08-12
I specifically targeted xBTAx because I thought his lack of transparency was suspicious. My ability allows me to see what the target does and who targets them. He saw me and held up his mirror move. Your attack landed, but someone else's was reflected. I wasn't going to say anything, but instead of being 'transparent,' you asked why was he a target and acted surprised he died when you aided in his death to begin with.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - LuvDWayULie - 2014-08-12
CakesXD Wrote:Sorry Luv, I'm more inclined to believe Hypermug because:1. What overdone? Those reactions are my true emotions for god's sake. Ugh.
1. Your reaction to xBTAx's death seemed a bit... overdone.
2. Oh, big surprise. You've claimed as an Electric-type with Thunder, and it seems that xBTAx was hit by a super-effective attack. You probably only Paralyzed Polantaris because of the Ground-typing (which should have made him immune, but that's another topic), but your Thunder was probably lethal to anyone who was weak to it (right now, I bet VerrKol and TheBirds would be severely injured if you targeted them, if their claims are in fact true).
2. i have no comments on Hyper's ability, I believe his ability to be true, I just disagree with him seeing xBTAx being attacked = Me attacking xBTAx.
3. Oh, another big surprise, Voltorb is Electric too, and it's possible for that to have Thunder as well. And uh, Niernen has confirmed to me that type effectiveness does not apply in this game, so your theory is wrong.
HyperMug, obviously it landed. It's not like it's an active skill to kill. It's more of a status kill, I guess. I asked that question because I wanted to know who else targeted him.
Giving up, seriously. I've tried helping Town, but instead people blame me. Oh well.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Holypie - 2014-08-12
LuvDWayULie Wrote:I believe I have to break this down into a few things:
1. I don't believe Holypie doing so is ONLY protecting you, Words. He's protecting himself too, and that's killing two birds with one stone! Also, I'm not derailing from Kyra. Why would I wanna derail from someone who has suspected me and even blocked me? I'm only providing an alternative, as I had always been doing. Is that wrong?
2. I honestly believe that xBTAx was acting scummy by not posting actively, and being especially secretive about his type. So, I targeted him and it turned out that he died, not by me but by someone else. I have no idea who did it, but it's not me, Hyper. You must have been looking at the attacker, not the roleblocker, as you have said earlier.
3. No more trusting me? I have been one of the most transparent person in the game. I revealed everything I did at night, my role, my type. EVERYTHING. Wow, every single game I get this treatment even though I'm just a Townie. Every freaking time. I'm honestly fed up with you guys suspecting me and consequently lynching me. What did I do wrong? You told me not to do this, I didn't do this, you told me to do that, I did that. I feel really annoyed, seriously.
No, how many times do I have to say this, I was trying to die. It would be RIDICULOUSLY EASY for me to just never die just by claiming, which I did and now I'm never going to die. I'm also never going to kill a mafia, so that sucks. If I wanted to protect myself, I could have, easily.
[vote] Kyrastri anyway, because who the pineapple knows, maybe Simple wasn't lying after all.
Alternatively we could lynch me and I could blow up Kyrastri, just for funsies.
Edit: Also, if poison lasts 2 night's it is ENTIRELY possible that BTA died of poison. Why he never spoke up about it, that's beyond me. He didn't/doesn't post too often and it might have slipped his mind? I don't know. Also if the poisoner is mafia that's absurdly op, two mafia controlled kills? Even if one is delayed, that's still very powerful.
Hmmmmmm, damn. If Polantaris was still alive he could have shielded Words tonight and Meta could give yoshi a doll. Oh well.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - LuvDWayULie - 2014-08-12
Holypie Wrote:No, how many times do I have to say this, I was trying to die. It would be RIDICULOUSLY EASY for me to just never die just by claiming, which I did and now I'm never going to die. I'm also never going to kill a mafia, so that sucks. If I wanted to protect myself, I could have, easily.Oh great idea, I actually like that idea of blowing up someone! Seriously.
[vote] Kyrastri anyway, because who the pineapple knows, maybe Simple wasn't lying after all.
Alternatively we could lynch me and I could blow up Kyrastri, just for funsies.
[Vote] Holypie
[Edit]
No wonder I missed out something, yes you might say that, but pretending to say so usually yields an opposite reaction, so you didn't die.