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Gollux - Tigeon - 2013-11-07
DavyJonesx Wrote:Which is pretty much impossible for 70% of the players...
I'm unfunded, and I'm able to duo with an unfunded lumi.
Sure it takes us 25 min but it's not impossible o.o
Protip: Lumi's are god here. Bring at least 1 lumi and you are almost garenteed not to fail due to mininion spawn. [all they need to do is hide in corner and spawn reflection, it hits..everything]
EDIT:Okay maybe unfunded was a bad term. Both of us have 100k range unbuffed. I'm a demon slayer, he is a luminous.
Gollux - DavyJonesx - 2013-11-07
Tigeon Wrote:I'm unfunded, and I'm able to duo with an unfunded lumi.Define unfunded
Sure it takes us 25 min but it's not impossible o.o
Protip: Lumi's are god here. Bring at least 1 lumi and you are almost garenteed not to fail due to mininion spawn. [all they need to do is hide in corner and spawn reflection, it hits..everything]
I'm a WA 250k range, went with another WA with 220k range. Which I think is moderately funded/above average.
It was pretty much impossible.
Also;
Mininion spawn wasn't even the problem.
We were doing like 1-2m lines with Sky's song and we totally failed >.>
Gollux - Tigeon - 2013-11-07
DavyJonesx Wrote:I'm a WA 250k range, went with another WA with 220k range. Which I think is moderately funded/above average.
It was pretty much impossible.
There's no reason why you should have failed o.o I edited my other post, both me and the other lumi had 100k ranges unbuffed. On what part did you fail at?
Gollux - DavyJonesx - 2013-11-07
Tigeon Wrote:There's no reason why you should have failed o.o I edited my other post, both me and the other lumi had 100k ranges unbuffed. On what part did you fail at?
Is 100k high for a DS/Lumi?
We could never finish in time with the dmg we were doing and getting 1hko'd every now and then didn't help either lol
Gollux - Tigeon - 2013-11-07
DavyJonesx Wrote:Is 100k high for a DS/Lumi?
We could never finish in time with the dmg we were doing and getting 1hko'd every now and then didn't help either lol
Not too sure if it's high, because well...most people don't like playing our classes in opt for more OP crap xD [Dam you dps charts!] But I'm pretty sure it's not high since both of us have less than 100% potential [not sure of amount] Also we do 1-2 mil per lines as well.
All me and the other lumi do is kill the right hand, then stay in that area. My demon impact has just enough range to stay out of his status effect zone. My lumi friend can stand behind the monster spawn portal so he never get kbed. Also he spams reflection so it kills both sides minions. We don't get hit by anything o.o It's just basically just stand there and hit it till it dies.
EDIT: Well tbh the lumi does 1.6 mils with the first half hits of relfect then 800ks second half, while I do 1.1-1.3 mils per line on demon impact.
Gollux - DavyJonesx - 2013-11-07
Tigeon Wrote:Not too sure if it's high, because well...most people don't like playing our classes in opt for more OP crap xD [Dam you dps charts!] But I'm pretty sure it's not high since both of us have less than 100% potential [not sure of amount] Also we do 1-2 mil per lines as well.
All me and the other lumi do is kill the right hand, then stay in that area. My demon impact has just enough range to stay out of his status effect zone. My lumi friend can stand behind the monster spawn portal so he never get kbed. Also he spams reflection so it kills both sides minions. We don't get hit by anything o.o It's just basically just stand there and hit it till it dies.
Well I mean dieing wasn't even THAT much of a problem.
Our dmg was just too low to finish in time.
Is it that lumi/ds skills have a higher hits p/s rate than sky's song?
Idk man, you sure you did hard mode? lol
Gollux - Takebacker - 2013-11-07
Tigeon Wrote:Not too sure if it's high, because well...most people don't like playing our classes in opt for more OP crap xD [Dam you dps charts!] But I'm pretty sure it's not high since both of us have less than 100% potential [not sure of amount] Also we do 1-2 mil per lines as well.
All me and the other lumi do is kill the right hand, then stay in that area. My demon impact has just enough range to stay out of his status effect zone. My lumi friend can stand behind the monster spawn portal so he never get kbed. Also he spams reflection so it kills both sides minions. We don't get hit by anything o.o It's just basically just stand there and hit it till it dies.
EDIT: Well tbh the lumi does 1.6 mils with the first half hits of relfect then 800ks second half, while I do 1.1-1.3 mils per line on demon impact.
It doesn't sound like hard mode you did.
Gollux - Tigeon - 2013-11-07
DavyJonesx Wrote:Well I mean dieing wasn't even THAT much of a problem.
Our dmg was just too low to finish in time.
Is it that lumi/ds skills have a higher hits p/s rate than sky's song?
Idk man, you sure you did hard mode? lol
Are you sure your not confusing hard mode with hell mode lol? Hard mode is when we kill one body part, hell is when you kill none.
We can't kill hell mode xD Never said we could.
But we kill hard mode every day. And it makes me sad that we havent found A SINGLE REINFORCED ITEM ADLKFJA;SDJKF.
Mayb it has somethign to do with hits. My demon impact hits like 7 hits in 1 sec with a green pot, 14 hits if i have my blue blood hyper on [60 sec timer 120 sec cd] Lumi though...hits fast, I want to say a lot faster than my hits. He can do like 2 reflects in the time of 1 of my demon impacts.
People saying Lumi's arent good at bossing...IDK but if you give them decent funding they can handle a lot of things pretty well. Even if they are ranked lowest on dps charts....
Gollux - Razmos - 2013-11-07
They really need to increase the hitbox size on Gollux's eyes. I can't hit it with Vanquishers Charm
Gollux - Tigeon - 2013-11-07
Razmos Wrote:They really need to increase the hitbox size on Gollux's eyes. I can't hit it with Vanquishers Charm
Oh what seriously? I wanted to duo it on my kanna next...
Does that mean vanq charm can't even reach the head in the safe zone? =/ If it can't...bb kanna duos F4 Guess I'll just use bellflower to power up my othe rmember...
Gollux - Onion Knight - 2013-11-07
Tigeon Wrote:Oh what seriously? I wanted to duo it on my kanna next...You can still do the "get a few pixels behind Gollux to avoid his attacks" technique if you kill the abs instead of a shoulder, using Falling Sakura to heal if Haku's Gift and pots are on cooldown and you get caught by an attack. Managed to get through the entire hard mode jaw that way, only to be mercilessly slaughtered repeatedly by the flailing hands at the eye stage. Are the hands at the eye stage avoidable at all without straying into the 1hko cry zone? At the jaw stage it seems like you can just walk out of the way of any arm attacks if you're in the centre, but at the eyes stage the "safe" area is tiny and the hands always seem to go for it.
Does that mean vanq charm can't even reach the head in the safe zone? =/ If it can't...bb kanna duos F4 Guess I'll just use bellflower to power up my othe rmember...
Also to add insult to injury, Shikigami Haunting can only reach the eyes if Gollux is facing you, if someone's attacking from the other side and Gollux faces them, Shikigami can't reach the eyes unless you stray into the 1hko cry zone. Not sure what to do at that point, find a way to the other side or Tengu them to death I guess.
Gollux - Tigeon - 2013-11-07
Onion Knight Wrote:You can still do the "get a few pixels behind Gollux to avoid his attacks" technique if you kill the abs instead of a shoulder, using Falling Sakura to heal if Haku's Gift and pots are on cooldown and you get caught by an attack. Managed to get through the entire hard mode jaw that way, only to be mercilessly slaughtered repeatedly by the flailing hands at the eye stage. Are the hands at the eye stage avoidable at all without straying into the 1hko cry zone? At the jaw stage it seems like you can just walk out of the way of any arm attacks if you're in the centre, but at the eyes stage the "safe" area is tiny and the hands always seem to go for it.
Also to add insult to injury, Shikigami Haunting can only reach the eyes if Gollux is facing you, if someone's attacking from the other side and Gollux faces them, Shikigami can't reach the eyes unless you stray into the 1hko cry zone. Not sure what to do at that point, find a way to the other side or Tengu them to death I guess.
Main issue is that my partner is a lumi. We need to kill a shoulder so he can just stay in one spot to cast reflect to kill both mobs. Once he casts reflect he's stuckin that animation, he can't jump cast.
Also we like to kill a shoulder because it makes so much easier at the eye stage.
Gollux - dalai008 - 2013-11-07
Quick question on Gollux. I am a WA with about 300k range (buffed) and 140% boss. I can kill normal mode in less than five minutes thanks to puppet/flower thing. I tried hard mode last night and placed puppet and started wailing away with sky song and was doing reasonable damage to him. Then I died. When I started up sky song again my damage numbers went way down. I hit 1.5 - 2 mil per arrow pefore death and the 800k-1 mil after death. Does he change once you die? Confused. Also is there a difference for hard mode if you kill one shoulder vs. killing abdomen?
thanks
Gollux - Tigeon - 2013-11-07
dalai008 Wrote:Quick question on Gollux. I am a WA with about 300k range (buffed) and 140% boss. I can kill normal mode in less than five minutes thanks to puppet/flower thing. I tried hard mode last night and placed puppet and started wailing away with sky song and was doing reasonable damage to him. Then I died. When I started up sky song again my damage numbers went way down. I hit 1.5 - 2 mil per arrow pefore death and the 800k-1 mil after death. Does he change once you die? Confused. Also is there a difference for hard mode if you kill one shoulder vs. killing abdomen?
thanks
Only changes ive noticed is what he does. Killing the shoulder will make the hand not come up and do his 1hko attack. Killing abdomin make it so he doesnt cast status effects on you [like queen's seduce walk]
IDK why you lost so much damage thoughafte ryou died.
Gollux - Onion Knight - 2013-11-08
[MENTION=1850]Tigeon[/MENTION]; Thanks for the tip. Killed a shoulder instead of the abs and as a result managed a successful hard mode solo (took like 20 minutes though) with clear difficulty 3, 1 death. Only 2 Cracked items and a Solid item dropped, no Reinforced stuff.
Turns out even killing 1 arm completely removes the 1hkoing hands from the eyes stage and the seduce attack is basically the same as the avoidable 50%HP attack, but with an added seduce effect which Foxfire nullifies (you still take 50%HP damage though), so in the case of Kanna killing a shoulder seems like a smarter choice if you're going for hard mode.
Gollux - Tigeon - 2013-11-08
Onion Knight Wrote:[MENTION=1850]Tigeon[/MENTION]; Thanks for the tip. Killed a shoulder instead of the abs and as a result managed a successful hard mode solo (took like 20 minutes though) with clear difficulty 3, 1 death. Only 2 Cracked items and a Solid item dropped, no Reinforced stuff.
Turns out even killing 1 arm completely removes the 1hkoing hands from the eyes stage and the seduce attack is basically the same as the avoidable 50%HP attack, but with an added seduce effect which Foxfire nullifies (you still take 50%HP damage though), so in the case of Kanna killing a shoulder seems like a smarter choice if you're going for hard mode.
NP glad I can help^^
BTW if you don't mindme asking what stats does your kanna have? =0 And how do you manage the other side spawn? Do you just set your summon there?
Gollux - Onion Knight - 2013-11-08
Tigeon Wrote:NP glad I can help^^
BTW if you don't mindme asking what stats does your kanna have? =0 And how do you manage the other side spawn? Do you just set your summon there?
492k buffed range (236k clean, just to show how inflated buffed Kanna ranges get compared to other classes), 186% boss (231% with bellflower). Since Kanna can't actually hit Gollux with any reasonable skill outside the far range of the seduce attack I killed the jaw from the centre, walking behind Gollux whenever he faced me since Kanna's tele is too slow to avoid the attacks most of the time. Kishin summoned directly on the centre was 3hkoing the summons that weren't being caught by Charm/Spirits, so both sides were managed at the same time.
Gollux - Dodoch - 2013-11-08
if only I had that kind of range on my kanna, the 2 months of my kanna being unplayable when I actually got myself around funding it, made me waste my money on other stuff, so I never got around funding it aside from getting a terminus fan.
Gollux - Green4Ever - 2013-11-08
Wasn't sure where to post this, but this thread just went up on basil (it's a live chat about the shop not resetting).
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2749793
Gollux - SaptaZapta - 2013-11-08
Green4Ever Wrote:Wasn't sure where to post this, but this thread just went up on basil (it's a live chat about the shop not resetting).
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2749793
Huh.
What's the point of a shop where everything can only be purchased once?
Why not just give the items as quest rewards?
I suppose there's the advantage of having the items there instead of clogging up your inventory, in case you don't have use for them right now, but really... Seems like a very odd design. Or the GM just wanted the asker off his back.