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Ask a Magician Thread. - sw2009 - 2011-12-27

just a question on mathematics,

What is the range needed to hit dmg cap uncrit with

1) evan (illusion, flamewheel, blaze)
2) f/p (paralyze)
3) i/l (chain lightning, glacier?)
4) bs ( angel rays)


Ask a Magician Thread. - happylight - 2011-12-27

Angel Ray is 450%x2.
So 999,999 / 4.5 = 222,222.

You need 222,222 range for AR to hit damage cap uncrit without arcane aim nor infinity on 0 pdr neutral mob.


Ask a Magician Thread. - DeanNim - 2011-12-28

happylight Wrote:Angel Ray is 450%x2.
So 999,999 / 4.5 = 222,222.

You need 222,222 range for AR to hit damage cap uncrit without arcane aim nor infinity on 0 pdr neutral mob.

but arcane aim is not a choice anyway. subtract 8% off of 222,222 to get the range before arcane aim. also, extreme magic.


Ask a Magician Thread. - happylight - 2011-12-28

DeanNim Wrote:but arcane aim is not a choice anyway. subtract 8% off of 222,222 to get the range before arcane aim. also, extreme magic.

What you mean arcane aim is not a choice? First shot you fire is always without arcane aim. And what is extreme magic? Bishops have no such skill.


Ask a Magician Thread. - DeanNim - 2011-12-31

happylight Wrote:What you mean arcane aim is not a choice? First shot you fire is always without arcane aim. And what is extreme magic? Bishops have no such skill.

because he only asked for bishops. and yes, because you are going to hit something only once.


Ask a Magician Thread. - Abysseon - 2011-12-31

sw2009 Wrote:just a question on mathematics,

What is the range needed to hit dmg cap uncrit with

1) evan (illusion, flamewheel, blaze)
2) f/p (paralyze)
3) i/l (chain lightning, glacier?)
4) bs ( angel rays)

Guess I'll aim lower and ask what is the range needed to hit 100k minimum uncrit with:

I/L - Chain Lightning


Ask a Magician Thread. - Kalemora - 2011-12-31

Abysseon Wrote:Guess I'll aim lower and ask what is the range needed to hit 100k minimum uncrit with:

I/L - Chain Lightning
No Infinity, Storm Magic, or Arcane Aim active? On like, a snail? No extra PDR ignore aside from what's given by skills? No Elemental Weapon?
(100,000/((1-.1+.1*.2)*2.14*1.45))/.75
So about 46,706 if I didn't pineapple up my math?


Ask a Magician Thread. - Abysseon - 2011-12-31

Kalemora Wrote:No Infinity, Storm Magic, or Arcane Aim active? On like, a snail? No extra PDR ignore aside from what's given by skills? No Elemental Weapon?
(100,000/((1-.1+.1*.2)*2.14*1.45))/.75
So about 46,706 if I didn't pineapple up my math?

46k?... =(

Guess I'll settle for less then.


Ask a Magician Thread. - DeanNim - 2012-01-03

So my pre-ascension goal is 125 and that means 15points.

10 to paralyze
1 to Mist explosion

What should I add next with the extra 4 and the rest of my levels ?


Ask a Magician Thread. - Shidoshi - 2012-01-03

DeanNim Wrote:So my pre-ascension goal is 125 and that means 15points.

10 to paralyze
1 to Mist explosion

What should I add next with the extra 4 and the rest of my levels ?

Buff Mastery increases your damage by a LOT, 30 matk for 10 points is likely to be a 15% increase in your damage (depending how much matk you already have) and it's also quite nice not having to rebuff that often =D
I would say it's probably even better than getting more levels on paralyze in terms of damage.

I'd also get 1 point in Big Bang and Meteor Shower because they are pretty strong and useful in certain situations.
Getting a point in Ifrit can be nice for that 11% elemental resistance, but it's not essential.


Ask a Magician Thread. - DeanNim - 2012-01-04

Shidoshi Wrote:Buff Mastery increases your damage by a LOT, 30 matk for 10 points is likely to be a 15% increase in your damage (depending how much matk you already have) and it's also quite nice not having to rebuff that often =D
I would say it's probably even better than getting more levels on paralyze in terms of damage.

I'd also get 1 point in Big Bang and Meteor Shower because they are pretty strong and useful in certain situations.
Getting a point in Ifrit can be nice for that 11% elemental resistance, but it's not essential.

So the plan is, 1 big bang, 1 ifrit, 1 meteor. then max buff mastery while im doing the 5 level quest to 130. What about arcane aim ? is one point in it even remotely useful ?


Ask a Magician Thread. - ¬Rob - 2012-01-04

DeanNim Wrote:So the plan is, 1 big bang, 1 ifrit, 1 meteor. then max buff mastery while im doing the 5 level quest to 130. What about arcane aim ? is one point in it even remotely useful ?
I did
1para/1BB/1meteo/1erupt/max buff mastery then maxed Arcane Aim with the free 100% book for it.
AA is a must before attacks, at least imo. After that, Para/erupt got maxed for me, then infinity.

AA was the more expensive book for a while in Scania when Ascension hit, so I recommend it as your free 100% if you get the event, depending on prices there.


Ask a Magician Thread. - DeanNim - 2012-01-04

¬Rob Wrote:I did
1para/1BB/1meteo/1erupt/max buff mastery then maxed Arcane Aim with the free 100% book for it.
AA is a must before attacks, at least imo. After that, Para/erupt got maxed for me, then infinity.

AA was the more expensive book for a while in Scania when Ascension hit, so I recommend it as your free 100% if you get the event, depending on prices there.

Really ? well, there goes my plans. ill think this through. Is arcane aim really THAT good ?


Ask a Magician Thread. - DeanNim - 2012-01-04

¬Rob Wrote:I did
1para/1BB/1meteo/1erupt/max buff mastery then maxed Arcane Aim with the free 100% book for it.
AA is a must before attacks, at least imo. After that, Para/erupt got maxed for me, then infinity.

AA was the more expensive book for a while in Scania when Ascension hit, so I recommend it as your free 100% if you get the event, depending on prices there.

Really ? well, there goes my plans. ill think this through. Is arcane aim really THAT good ?


Ask a Magician Thread. - Shidoshi - 2012-01-04

Arcane Aim is really good if you are bossing or training at LHC (read high HP monsters), if you are training somewhere where you kill monsters in 2 hits it's not that important.

I support the notion of getting 10 buff mastery before putting a second point in paralyze or ME, unless you have way more than 300 total matk.


Ask a Magician Thread. - DeanNim - 2012-01-04

Shidoshi Wrote:Arcane Aim is really good if you are bossing or training at LHC (read high HP monsters), if you are training somewhere where you kill monsters in 2 hits it's not that important.

I support the notion of getting 10 buff mastery before putting a second point in paralyze or ME, unless you have way more than 300 total matk.

Ic, ok then! its max buff mastery then arcane aim and then paralyze.


Ask a Magician Thread. - Satan - 2012-07-23

Hi. Quantact/Derimed here, I doubt any of you remember me, but I was hoping for some help if you have a moment.

I am in a very very weird position. I have a lvl 200 Bishop that I haven't played in ages. I left the game shortly after Big Bang, when a free universal SP reset enabled me to reset my Bishop fully. Now, I've come back and there are a lot of skills that I've never seen before. A couple skills seem to be gone altogether. There is a promotion going on where for slightly less than 10k nx I can reset my skills, I did so. I was hoping to get told what the ideal SP allocation is for a lvl 200 Bishop these days. As in, what SP should be everywhere, which skills to ignore, etc. I have every book in 4th job unlocked except for MW30 -- I have MW20. As a lvl200, I also have all the SP I ever am going to have. Thank you very much in advance for your help.


Ask a Magician Thread. - Eliseo - 2012-07-23

[MENTION=5093]Satan[/MENTION]; 1st Job Max Magic Guard, Magic Armor, Magic Claw, MP Boost, and don't max Energy Bolt. 2nd Job Max EVERYTHING except Holy Arrow, I think you only put 1 SP to HA.
3rd Job Max EVERYTHING except Doom. You'll find some of the new skills like Holy Focus great. And 4th Job Max Everything except Big Bang. Avoid Big Bang. Look it like it's a sickness.


Ask a Magician Thread. - Tristan - 2012-07-23

Eliseo Wrote:[MENTION=5093]Satan[/MENTION]; 1st Job Max Magic Guard, Magic Armor, Magic Claw, MP Boost, and don't max Energy Bolt. 2nd Job Max EVERYTHING except Holy Arrow, I think you only put 1 SP to HA.
3rd Job Max EVERYTHING except Doom. You'll find some of the new skills like Holy Focus great. And 4th Job Max Everything except Big Bang. Avoid Big Bang. Look it like it's a sickness.

Isn't big bang your only attack really, besides Angel Ray? I guess the other buffs are better... but... whatever I haven't played my Bishop in a few months. :3


Ask a Magician Thread. - RedRaven16 - 2012-07-23

Eliseo Wrote:[MENTION=5093]Satan[/MENTION]; 1st Job Max Magic Guard, Magic Armor, Magic Claw, MP Boost, and don't max Energy Bolt. 2nd Job Max EVERYTHING except Holy Arrow, I think you only put 1 SP to HA.
3rd Job Max EVERYTHING except Doom. You'll find some of the new skills like Holy Focus great. And 4th Job Max Everything except Big Bang. Avoid Big Bang. Look it like it's a sickness.

Or in 4th you could skip gen seeing as ultis are really lackluster now for mages.