WillDaSnail Wrote:I'll take that statement with a grain of salt. Especially coming from a person that consistently has bad results and has very low number of wins. Nothing personal, sir. Just stating what I see.

GreyorGray Wrote:Thread on the LoL forum. Want you guys to give your opinions as well.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=785609&page=2

 Karma + Amumu (Me) carrying + assisting

Foopah Wrote:My low win number is due to a bad/crappy training regimen my first 12 levels, hence a huge handicap at level 20. It's been suggested that I start over with a smurf account until I get to level 20 before continuing on my main. I am seriously considering it as I don't want to keep playing and having a BAD win/loss ratio. Then again, I've been constantly told that there are even worse level 30's, so, I don't know. I just want to be a better player so I have way better games than not. Just give me time, I will become way better (as some of you have already noticed, I'm much improved from 2 months ago when I came back to the game from not being on for > 6 months).

Look at it this way, at least I'm not just going in on games for the mere hack'n'slash of it like I was in the beginning, in which I really didn't care to know/learn how this game is supposed to be played. I was on for being on because MS was down for whatever reason. Now I'm on it to really learn about the game and be more strategic and just not go in blind and die unnecessarily. The notion of being a "feeder" really started to bother me, that's why I decided to become a real and better player. At least I can admit to having a very bad start in this game. I'm sure most bad players would never cop to that nor would they even bother/care to learn how to be a better player.

WillDaSnail Wrote:One thing I see from you as a player is that you have to up your game way faster. Kaj once told me that this game has a huge-ass learning curve, and I'm sure you probably know this by now. I know you're improving and whatnot, but you gotta start kicking it up a notch starting now.

I think, Foopah, you should come and ask us on LoL-related things more often on this thread. We rarely see you here. We have a thriving LoL community here in Southperry, and you should be thankful that we have people here who play a huge variety of champs, and are willing to help you if you ask. My point is, if you don't seek the help you need, you will not improve. You probably asked for help from others, but its OK to ask for more help if you need it. I did that when I started playing, and it helped tremendously. Being exposed to a variety of strategies, item builds, play styles, etc do enrich your knowledge and gameplay experience in LoL, even though if you don't agree on one player's interpretation of a champ's item build and play style, for instance. (Example: Me using Wriggles on jungle Rammus and >Pineapple disagreeing with me on it. In the end, we still disagree, but I can see why >Pineapple doesn't like Wriggles on a jungle Rammus).

Also, people will know who you are. This turns into many perks for you.

At the very least, start learning how to play smart. I don't like making assumptions in the first place, but I'm saying this based on your match record.

Foopah Wrote:I didn't know that there was one until very recently, and I've been reading the back posts to see what I can learn from others playing as well. It is interesting to see what people are doing to gain experience in this game and I believe it will be helpful.

One thing, I have been playing more smart, and teaming up with people I know to train up and become a better player, not just on a champion. I'm slowly expanding out to other champions to learn the different methodology in playing this game, but as Kaj has pointed out, there is a huge learning curve, and I'm still on that curve.

As for my match record, that's what you get when you train wrong/badly in the beginning. 12 levels of that does that to you. My play record lately has been WAY better since I've started playing smarter/more aware.

I've gotten lots of great advice these past 2 months, mostly Jin helping me train and Josh pitching in when he can. Give me a few months, and my record will start reflecting the changes I've undergone.

GreyorGray Wrote:Thread on the LoL forum. Want you guys to give your opinions as well.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=785609&page=2

 Fun game with Derosis

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:stuff

>Pineapple' Wrote:Ping the location that the enemy is at when they're on your ward.

And how does an amumu ult not= a kill? Unless they have qss or cleanse and flash up

>Pineapple' Wrote:And how does an amumu ult not= a kill? Unless they have qss or cleanse and flash up

ElectricSix Wrote:Heh, don't worry too much. As Kaj can attest, when I started out, I too went the bot route, and was pretty horrible at playing with people. Now, while I can't say I'm anywhere near Kaj's level, I am far better than I was. Took me a lot of time and a lot of games to get here, but it's far from impossible. Probably my biggest issue now is skill shots. Though some of that is due to my internet. Anyway, lots of experience will help more than almost any advice can after a certain point, but it never hurts to queue up with some people and duo lane so you can get some critiques.