Dark Link Wrote:I thought I'd never see it, but people are bitching about Annie being "OP" now. LOLWUT!?

Purplefire44 Wrote:When will they do what they did to kog's q to kass' w?

Kunagisa Wrote:Well damn. I tried Amumu and he's a pretty fun dude to play.

WillDaSnail Wrote:He is indeed one of the best tanks in the game, hands down. But do note that you will be the first into the line of fire; tanking is not something I would take lightly. It does require a lot of skill and know-how to use him correctly.

And also...he's a very good jungler. I jungle with him whenever I play him, and he levels betterjungling than laning, IMO.

KajitiSouls Wrote:Or you're playing with bad people. Not saying I know for sure, so I went ahead and did some sampling with Fraps at 30 fps.

Champion Ability	Radius	Cast event	Visual event	Damage event	Cast time	Visual time	Notes
Cho'Gath's Rupture	250	4.96s	5.50s	6.43s	0.50s	0.90s	Riot noted in a previous patch that Rupture has a 0.75s delay *shrugs*. Easily the least visible of the three skills.
Veigar's Dark Matter	250	11.35s	11.68s	13.08s	0.30s	1.40s	Unless your fps sucks and your effects settings is low, you mind as well erect a radio mast saying "I'ma bomb this spot lololol". Veigar does have a stun though.
Kog'Maw's Live Artillery	250	18.00s	18.30s	19.27s	0.30s	0.95s	A combination of Veigar's target visibility, cast time, and Cho's damage latency. Works well if you can land your Void Ooze on the target first.

Personally, I'm under the assumption that if you can land your shots with Cho and Kog perfectly, they're unavoidable. In practice, Cho's Rupture seems to be easier to land in spite of the cast time. It's partly because the other person is taking a little more time trying to identify the center of effect and take action accordingly, whereas with Dark Matter and Live Artillery, the center of effect is clearly marked with a fking streak in the sky.



Old news is old. Riot delivered a Mecha-riding Yordle as per community demands. That is all.

>Pineapple' Wrote:

Purplefire44 Wrote:When will they do what they did to kog's q to kass' w?

Kass is already amazing. Kog was lackluster compared to many carries.

Purplefire44 Wrote:Doesn't change the fact it's a virtually useless spell.
And I did fine as kog with the Q as it was, they didn't really change too much that would affect his carrying

>Pineapple' Wrote:Carrying with kog is only easy if you don't get shut down, and he's pretty damn easy to shut down. He had no way of harassing other than R and as we all know that's not always reliable.
Again, Kog's q have aspd and was a higher priority than E for the most part.

Kog was pretty lackluster compared to other carries, where as kass is already on the same level, and better than some ap carries. Doesn't matter if his W is garbage. If it was something actually usable it'd pretty much make him OP unless they reworked his other skills as well.

Purplefire44 Wrote:Hey, hey, kog's e is really good at harassing, and if it hits your next r lands without fail. His e is also his escape method, and chasing method. I ALWAYS max e first.
But whatever, different playstyles and all that.

 One game for today

>Pineapple' Wrote:You're building AP on him.

You're doing it wrong.

>Pineapple' Wrote:You're building AP on him.

You're doing it wrong.

WillDaSnail Wrote:(dunno what that enemy Annie is thinking, but OK whatever, that's her problem)