Zerard Wrote:Clicked on page 18 for you

Stereo Wrote:What's the primary demographic for CoD:BLOps2, Madden NFL, Halo 4, Assassin's Creed 3, Just Dance 4, NBA, Borderlands 2, CoD:MW3, Lego Batman 2, FIFA 12? Altogether it's not unreasonable to notice that 8 of the top 10 selling videogames last year are about violence and all-male sports


And in the style of the video, p.s.
where's the proof that all 70 grand is from pro-#gamergate sources
and what about Zoe Quinn making a pro-TFYC tweet that slashdotted (or in modern internet terms, ddos'd) their page makes donating to them a take-that to "the corruption in vidyas reporting" anyway[/color]

Stereo Wrote:Oh I see what the problem is, I'm not using the standard number of posts per page so "a few pages ago" was like, right over there. Anyway I skipped past that one because it sums up to what I said in my post above - all that's been accomplished is getting Intel to drop ads on gamasutra and also harrassing some women in gaming.

Stereo Wrote:('reforming journalism' = blindly accepting 'they were rude to you, shun them' and trolling Intel's inbox to make them cancel an ad campaign?)
It treads over the same he-said, kotaku-said ground at the beginning, which I'm not sure why anyone thinks is credible given that one side's evidence consists of "but Zoe's boyfriend said she knows a journalist" and the other's is "but the journalist's publisher says none of the journalist's articles are about her games".

Stereo Wrote:obtuse fruitslingers, wailing hyperconsumers, and childish internet-arguers:
it doesn't insult me cause I'm none of these things bro

Stereo Wrote:What's the primary demographic for CoD:BLOps2, Madden NFL, Halo 4, Assassin's Creed 3, Just Dance 4, NBA, Borderlands 2, CoD:MW3, Lego Batman 2, FIFA 12? Altogether it's not unreasonable to notice that 8 of the top 10 selling videogames last year are about violence and all-male sports

Stereo Wrote:And in the style of the video, p.s.
where's the proof that all 70 grand is from pro-#gamergate sources
and what about Zoe Quinn making a pro-TFYC tweet that slashdotted (or in modern internet terms, ddos'd) their page makes donating to them a take-that to "the corruption in vidyas reporting" anyway

ShinkuDragon Wrote:man, really, do you think those games are made for angry people? i'm sorry i enjoyed halo and assassin's creed. also, for your information, i was watching the fifa's women soccer games back then too. new zealand had some mean kicks.

look at the games you play, are you seriously going to say everything in your library is 100% "angry-free"? are you seriously implying that everyone in gamergate has thoughts of beating women up? because i'm part of the movement, and i want you to tell me straight to the face that i'm a mysogynist, ISIS-supporting, nazi angry young kid and mean it. because if you can't, if you can't call me that, you can't call the whole gamergate that. why? because the amount of actual retards that are is infinitesimal, and i know you're smart enough to realize that.

Quote:The world governing body for American football associations, the International Federation of American Football (IFAF), held the first ever Women's World Cup in Stockholm, Sweden, in 2010. Six nations participated in the inaugural event: Austria, Canada, Finland, Germany, Sweden, and the United States. The United States won the gold by beating Canada, 66-0. The 2013 World Championship, in Finland, was held from 30 June 2013 to 7 July 2013. The USA won gold again, beating Sweden 84-0 and Germany 107-7 in order to make it to the gold medal match with Canada, whom they beat 64-0.

ShinkuDragon Wrote:man, really, do you think those games are made for angry people? i'm sorry i enjoyed halo and assassin's creed. also, for your information, i was watching the fifa's women soccer games back then too. new zealand had some mean kicks.

look at the games you play, are you seriously going to say everything in your library is 100% "angry-free"?

ShinkDragon Wrote:are you seriously implying that everyone in gamergate has thoughts of beating women up? because i'm part of the movement, and i want you to tell me straight to the face that i'm a mysogynist, ISIS-supporting, nazi angry young kid and mean it. because if you can't, if you can't call me that, you can't call the whole gamergate that. why? because the amount of actual retards that are is infinitesimal, and i know you're smart enough to realize that.

Stereo Wrote:You're right, Secret of the Magic Crystal has some built in anger about unicorns not existing

Of course you're not most of those things, probably a bit misogynist. I'd suggest you examine your privilege but it's clear that it's too late to say that politely.


@KhainiWest the bad news is, if I take harrassment and death threats as a reason to stop being anti-GG then I'm certainly not going to become pro-GG. If I'm not part of the movement but hold the same opinions as one side on most issues, where does that leave me?


This premise is so far off it feels like you're copying from a list of talking points somewhere, idek. What does sex have to do with being anti-GG?

I know girls play Borderlands, try answering my question

Phoenix Wright Wrote:You assume that the hatred for Anita and Zoe and whoever the pineapple else stems from ~misogyny~ and not the awful pomegranate they've done or the 16 metric tons of garbage they spew on a daily basis. Give me a fucking break. If not putting women on a pedestal because they're women = misogyny then wow amazing I'm the biggest fucking misogynist there ever was.

Justin Wrote:Just stop responding to him guys, if he wants to be as badly brainwashed as yoshi and not even actually read anything outside of the one-sided garbage the SJWs throw his way then so be it. He's not worth the time. It's just funny because his posts are completely riddled with strawman fallacies and he wont even respond to half of the counter arguments and facts presented before him. Not worth it.

Zerard Wrote:That, and I think it's clear that at this point he just wants to make a scene

Stereo Wrote:It'd be nice to turn this thread back into a discussion from a circlejerk tho.

Stereo Wrote:It'd be nice to turn this thread back into a discussion from a circlejerk tho.


@ShinkuDragon was bored; googled Panama. Doesn't look like it's really better than the US on gendered pay. (gonna continue to ignore the race thing if you guys are ok with that, I haven't said anything about what any race should think)
http://www.wikigender.org/index.php/wikigender.org:Variables_Global_Gender_Gap_Index

Quote:Gender equality vs. women’s empowerment
The third distinguishing feature of the Global Gender Gap
Index is that it ranks countries according to their proximity
to gender equality rather than to women’s empowerment.
Our aim is to focus on whether the gap between women
and men in the chosen indicators has declined, rather than
whether women are “winning” the “battle of the sexes”.
Hence, the Index rewards countries that reach the point
where outcomes for women equal those for men, but it
neither rewards nor penalizes cases in which women are
outperforming men in particular indicators

Quote: Truncating the
data at the equality benchmarks for each variable assigns
the same score to a country that has reached parity
between women and men and one where women have
surpassed men

Flonne Wrote:Differing opinions isn't the only important part of a good debate, those opinions also need to be well thought out or at least taken from someone intelligent enough to make decent arguments that aren't completely full of holes.

I could almost swear he made this strip just for me.

KhainiWest Wrote:[video=youtube;1FnrHhUJMxc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FnrHhUJMxc[/video]

boogie ;-;

IllegallySane Wrote:Unfortunately, I kinda felt that he bought it upon himself when he tried to stand that middle ground. His tone of voice and his appearance probably didn't help either. He tried to appease both sides, and therefore pissed off both sides as a consequence. For me, I felt around 5:40 when he was "no shi't corruption is everywhere, don't fully trust anything" is where his Diplomacy attempt rolled a 1 and my opinion of him suddenly crashed. Perhaps if that transition was a bit smoother it'd go more smoothly. I understand the intent of his initial Gamegate video, but the delivery overall was a bit too rough.