VerrKol Wrote:I think we finally found someone loonier than LuvDWayULie;

Simple Wrote:I hope you aren't referring to me. Especially after that horrible claim at the end of Digital Mafia, and the fact that you tend to slip up a ton and make yourself look scummy. And at least I am not voting for you to save my own ass and actually doing something productive. Do you even realize how badly you look scummy doing stuff like that? But of course just because you look scummy doesn't mean you are scummy, since I am not getting any scum vibes from you.

Simple Wrote:I hope you aren't referring to me. Especially after that horrible claim at the end of Digital Mafia, and the fact that you tend to slip up a ton and make yourself look scummy. And at least I am not voting for you to save my own ass and actually doing something productive. Do you even realize how badly you look scummy doing stuff like that? But of course just because you look scummy doesn't mean you are scummy, since I am not getting any scum vibes from you.

Holypie Wrote:What do you mean by fishing for information? I don't think I've been fishing for information, I don't even like fish! (In all seriousness, if I've been giving off that vibe can you explain why?)

Hypermug Wrote:-snip-

VerrKol Wrote:Polantaris blocked my ability (using reflect?) on Night 2. I picked him because he was an admitted Rock type and I was just hoping to find out what my ability does.

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]-Edit-
We also haven't seen or had hints towards a Dragon type, but there were only the Dratini family in Gen 1, so that's kindof understandable.[/COLOR]

Holypie Wrote:Assuming I do survive, who should I investigate tonight? I was thinking Words because of the weirdness earlier, and his being dead set on killing Luv regardless of whether or not he's scum.

meowmixx Wrote:if u do investigate should i even try to roleblock cuz mr tentacles would try to make me roleblock u. i dont want to set back the town

Simple Wrote:-snip-

Simple Wrote:Because I've been trying to keep quiet and find mafiaso since even the littlest mistake can get an innocent lynched. Look at Olsi. And you're next on my list if I live mister throw out random useless fluff information to look like you're a decent active townie.

Polantaris Wrote:And now I get to call bullpomegranate. I was specifically told that nothing happened to me last night. In a PM.

I don't see the point in hiding my ability anymore, as I've given too much information about it to be conspicuous about it. I am Golem, and my ability is Defense Curl. I can defend myself at night and take no damage, but I'm apparently not immune to status effects, just damage (because Luv Paralyzed me even though I was defending on Night 1). I guess I'm the Bulletproof character, but as most people my PM was pretty vague and I can't think of every question for every situation since I don't know what kinds of other roles exist.

Last night, I specifically got a PM that said I curled up, and then nothing happened at all. I have to imagine Water Gun hitting me would have stirred me, especially since I am weak to Water in the games.

Polantaris Wrote:Kyra and you have revealed to be roleblockers. If this is true, try to roleblock each other. One of the two of you should succeed, I doubt we have four roleblockers.

Polantaris Wrote:YEAH I'm not so sure I believe you. Simply because that's an identical ability to what I had last game. I'm not so sure that Niernen would steal it for this game, it was pretty unique (from what I understand).

Simple Wrote:Not nearly as unique as you might think. And it wouldn't really be stealing either, you're making a Pokemon mafia and you pass up the chance to have a Ditto in it? Come on. I am not gonna bother voting for VerrKol just to save myself since I completely despise that type of move, so if I end up dying today and me being town, Ditto and my power is true I hope the town will remember what I've said.

Polantaris Wrote:It's just that I saw a lot of posts asking for specific details a lot. If you roleclaim is true, I can't say I'm surprised all that much.

Holypie Wrote:Oh I actually did that because I like trying to figure out mechanics. I'm not fantastic at scum-hunting but I like trying to figure out role interactions and whatnot. I don't remember if I actually posted this but I at least planned on asking something about the priority of all of the roleblockers, and what would happen if they were to target eachother in a loop, or some other configuration.

Words Wrote:EDIT: Or maybe Polantaris instead of one of those 3... I also forgot to mention that I saw someone attack Verrkol when I investigated him but that whoever attacked was attacking him/herslef instead. If someone confused someone night 1 it might also give us a clue.

1. Simple's ability wouldn't be identical to Polantaris' from last game, as Polantaris didn't get role information and it seems like Simple does.
   
2. Simple's role claim can be true even if Kyrastri is town (and the opposite is also true; my point is that there's no tie between their role and that accusation).
   
3. I did forget to unbold my first vote; doing so now.
   
4. ...I think at some point we also might want to consider that we can vote for people other than Simple and VerrKol.
   
5. There's not much reason to trust the disabler claims. In fact, someone who's better at taking notes (and is less lazy) than I am should really make a list of what people have claimed, and more importantly, who they've claimed to act on, who claims to have been hit by their actions, and what order these claims were made in relative to each other. Catching someone in a lie (or seeing where things match up) could help determine who's faking and who might be faking together.
   
6. Squirtle's action reacting differently to different types could be some kind of type-cop but if Words isn't lying I think that's probably just a side-effect rather than the intent of the role.
   

LuvDWayULie Wrote:Just finished reading about 2 pages of new info. I might not have read properly, but here's what I gathered so far, focusing on Simple and VerrKol:

- Simple claimed to be Ditto, a role-copier.
- VerrKol claimed to be Squirtle, with Water Gun as his power name.
- Both claimed to be Townies.

After reading this, I believe that Simple isn't lying, simply because he has become quite transparent with his role. His defense is much stronger IMO, whereas VerrKol, on the other hand, is still quite fuzzy/blurry with his roleclaim. I don't know what does his Water Gun do (If you did, I'm sorry but it's not obvious to me tbh)

I don't think Simple would be taking such a huge risk copying the Digital Mafia's role PM word-for-word into this game as Ditto's role. I believe Niernen simply incorporated that role into PokeMafia. Hence, I really don't think it's a fakeclaim by Simple. It's a huge risk IMO.

So, I believe VerrKol would be a better choice as it would be a good time to find out the cop's (Holypie's) sanity, so I support that. If we mislynch another Townie, I know it would be bad, but I feel it's better to remove a suspicious person from the game, especially when the cop has already proved VerrKol is mafia. Holypie checked on me too, and found out to be Townie. So, if VerrKol is lynched today, I have nothing to lose, since I'm Townie anyway, and Holypie is right.

[Vote] VerrKol

Holypie Wrote:Simple, I believe you, but don't vote for Kyrastri today, she has no chance of being lynched. Vote for VerrKol not to save yourself, but because I need you to trust me right now. I know how scummy that sounds but seriously, believe me and everything will work out fine.

Words Wrote:Okay, I think it's not that hard to figure out and yoshi0 was already close to it so I might as well just do it and save a townie and make something more productive today because it probably nets us 2 mafia. I'm Arcanine and I can smell people to find their alignment. I know Verrkol and HolyPie are innocent. Verrkol is telling the truth about water guning me but I didn't say anything because I thought it was because of my visit not because of him visiting me. Simple says he stole my ability which would confirm me... unless he stole it from someone else, which I doubt but would make things much more complicated than they seem to me right now.

Anyway, HolyPie is insane/random and his results are backwards, Verrkol is town and Luv must be mafia. If Simple got his result from my power Kyra must be mafia too. We vote either. Finding the last one(s) shouldn't be that hard if things turn up right after today. I say we go for Luv and confirm my story, everyone's suspicion and that HolyPie is insane. As for who we investigate tonight I suggest MasPan, Meta and TheBirds... yoshi0 might die so there's no point checking on him if he does die.

EDIT: Or maybe Polantaris instead of one of those 3... I also forgot to mention that I saw someone attack Verrkol when I investigated him but that whoever attacked was attacking him/herslef instead. If someone confused someone night 1 it might also give us a clue.

EDIT2: I was counting votes and the bandwagon on Verrkol makes me think that I'm the sane one and HolyPie the insane one. Also xBTAx; has two bolded votes. Does it mean anything or did you just forget?

VerrKol Wrote:Well if it wasn't you, then someone else shielded you with a "mirror". If my memory of Pokemon is correct, that screams someone can use reflect and I think I know who would have such an ability... If you're truthful about your ability, then we can assume that the person using reflect is NOT coordinating with you. This pretty much confirms the reflect user is town.