Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed)

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Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Bladester - 2012-04-17

woah, Arans actually suck more when their mastery is increased? Any reason why?

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Stereo - 2012-04-17

Bladester Wrote:woah, Arans actually suck more when their mastery is increased? Any reason why?

Basically it includes the chance of the character hitting less than max damage. So for a class with 90% mastery, their average damage is only 95% of the max - so the 'with mastery' becomes 95% of without.

You can compare directly between characters using their max range if you use those percents.

I believe Warriors have 70% (Hero), 90% (Aran/DrK) or 92% (Paladin), so the classes with higher base mastery see smaller changes. The Hero loses over 1000%/s while the Aran only drops 200%. Actually, that's partly cause the Hero starts with over 9000% and the Aran's only at 5000%. But still.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Bladester - 2012-04-17

So it's basically worthless to put points into Aran's improved weapon mastery skill at all?

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Stereo - 2012-04-17

You should never compare mastery to non-mastery tables for the same class. They're not measuring the same thing.

It adds 10% mastery, 15% crit damage and 30 attack, of course it's useful.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - ShinkuDragon - 2012-04-17

Bladester Wrote:So it's basically worthless to put points into Aran's improved weapon mastery skill at all?

if that thing improves mastery like the name implies, then no, quite the opposite in fact, you want that maxed, probably ASAP.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2012-04-17

HOW DO YOU FUNCTION IN LIFE

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Locked - 2012-04-17

JoeTang Wrote:HOW DO YOU FUNCTION IN LIFE

I ask myself this question a lot about a lot of people.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2012-04-19

KMST 1.2.428
Demon Slayer:

Spoiler

Sharp Eyes

Demon Explosion is still not beneficial other than its immense alpha strike IIRC.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - ShinkuDragon - 2012-04-19

Locked Wrote:I ask myself this question a lot about a lot of people.

thankfully, it mostly happens online for me.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Dark Link - 2012-04-26

*Is interested in how much DS were changed in the 1v1/2/3/4 department with the latest Demon Impact change*

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2012-04-26

Dark Link Wrote:*Is interested in how much DS were changed in the 1v1/2/3/4 department with the latest Demon Impact change*

OP still has current Justice stats. Latest table in my previous post is the KMST values.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Rains - 2012-04-26

JoeTang Wrote:OP still has current Justice stats. Latest table in my previous post is the KMST values.

I believe that impact hits 4 monsters now.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Arrol - 2012-04-26

Rains Wrote:I believe that impact hits 4 monsters now.

Moves a smidge faster too.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Dark Link - 2012-04-26

JoeTang Wrote:OP still has current Justice stats. Latest table in my previous post is the KMST values.

Nexon ninja'd some more changes to Demon Impact in the live KMS patch

Quote:Changed - Delay (demonImpact - 1470 ms --> demonImpact - 1200 ms)
Changed - mobCount (3 --> 4)

Everything else is still the same, damage wise, as was in KMST.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2012-04-26

Demon Slayer:

Spoiler

Sharp Eyes

Didn't actually notice the patch was out. Updated.

Justice

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Dark Link - 2012-04-26

Wow, I severely underestimated how much a delay reduction would do percentage wise.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Stereo - 2012-05-06

How is Demon Slayer regular damage even calculated?

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This is the highest regular attack I did in about 5 minutes. The weapon is clean with no potential/nebulite. Min damage I saw was 46600.

Range is 17166 ~ 22007.

Demon Thrash supposedly is 280% damage increase on a 100% hit.
Demon Impact, maybe, is 21% ignore def? Binding Darkness is 11%, Ambition is another 2%.

Putting those numbers together should result in 72,600 (22007 * 3.8 * (1-0.2*(0.66)))
Actually, it seems to be 210%: (22007 * 3.1 * (1-0.2*0.66)) = 46200 ~ 59200

Even if Demon Impact doesn't apply to ignoring pdr, Demon Thrash is giving more like 325% total (+225%) damage.

Switching to a weapon with 15% ignore PDR, range 15385 ~ 19725
Observed range 42935 ~ 54947
With 210%, it calculates to 42828 ~ 54910 which isn't high enough.
With 211%, it is 42967 ~ 55087 which is too high.
With 210.5%, it gets 42898 ~ 54999 which finally fits both limits. Actually, anywhere from 210.3% to 210.7% does.

Why is the regular attack doing 310.5% instead of 380%?

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2012-05-06

~~Demon Impact should be applying its PDR Ignore to every attack.~~ My bad, that's Binding Darkness that does that. Demon Impact shouldn't have a passive defense ignore, as far as I know.

I'll be testing what the effective damage increase is on KMS later and will use that instead of the value given on the skill information. The most consistent result I'm finding on KMS is ~2.79x.

I have no real clues to why this occurs, other than perhaps some weird combination with Concentration's bonus, though that still doesn't quite fit. I've also been working with a typo on Demon Slash's bonus, using 2.2 instead of 3.2 so it's been underrepresented.

Switching to 2.8x for now;
Demon Slayer:

Spoiler

Sharp Eyes

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - TagerBustah - 2012-06-23

Now that paladins are immune to elemental resistances at bosses (assuming this includes P-resist since fiels extractions list it under Elements), wouldn't that make paladins the strongest single target dps warrior at P-resist bosses such as Pink Bean, Empress Cygnus and Hillia. I'm not sure if there are any other P-resist bosses besides those.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Lugin - 2012-06-24

That would depend on whether Nexon included it in the resistant -> neutral sweep for Paladins.
Given the weird way P-resist is done, testing would be needed.