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Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Dudewitbow - 2013-02-16

maplefreak26 Wrote:I really like all the parts so I don't really want to sacrifice any further.
I'll follow the above build and keep the GPU out until I get enough money to be able to afford it.

-drumroll-

Grand Total: 849.48

And holy crap, I hate this $60 tax. My coupons saved me from sacrificing even further.

living in california is a bummer for computer builders(myself included). the only big computer store that DOESN'T have sales tax in california is Tigerdirect, as they do not own a factory in california(most of their stuff ships from illinois i think)

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Chew - 2013-03-11

First try to set up a gaming PC by myself.
So far I've gathered these components:
Proccesor: AMD FX 6-Core
Motherboard: ECS A960M-M3
Ram: Kingston DDR 3 8Gbs
HDD: Hitachi 1 Terabyte
Video: ECS Elite Group GeForce G210 1Gb DDR 3 64bit
PowerSupply: 500 Watts Edge Blazer

Is there anything else I can upgrade without throwing extras $100+ USD? I'm running low on my budget and I'm not having extra money in a long time.
My common use will be multi tasking, gaming obviously and industrial 3D modeling (college subject).

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Dudewitbow - 2013-03-11

please tell me you didnt buy those parts already. the G210 is a horribly old and low end card, enough that integrated graphics these days will surpass it, unless they are free parts and or what you already had for awhile.

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Chew - 2013-03-12

I know that card isn't the best, but that's the best i could come up with at the moment, also i wanna clarify that being a ddr 3 instead of ddr 2 like its predecessors , and with that processor and a 64 bit OS, I have hope to get the the best of it to run at least the games with medium settings, before I jump to a gtx 480 but.that's gonna wait

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Dudewitbow - 2013-03-12

for reference, a G210 is approximately as good as a gen 1, core i3 igpu. (!low on Starcraft 2 at 1024x768, and basically any modern game has to be at the lowest)

i would definitely hold the wait card if you can stretch out time. As a personal opinion, the absolute minimum gpu to beat for $/perf is a DDR3 6670(~gt240 performance medium on ~1336x### resolution). even then, its pushing the quality of game level. then again, its all dependent on what kind of games you play.

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Chicocl - 2013-03-19

Okay, I don't know where to post this but I think it'll work here. I'm getting my 10mb/s internet connection in 3 days.

So, I need a new router (it's a new apartment and my family will keep the old one, living the single man life) and I don't know what to buy. My cousin, who is studying Telecommunications engineering, tells me that the best is a N one for it's theoretical maximum 600mb/s but they are a lot more expensive here in Venezuela than for example G ones that have a max of 300mb/s. He is pretty much forcing me to buy a N one from linksys (He is taking a course with them about internet connections but I always had the impression that it was kind of being more a sell the image of our company to you than an educational course). I really think that a G one will do the work well, even a less powerful one could.

If you need to know what equips will be connected most of the time here is the list:
4 Computers, 3 Ipods and 1 Wii U & Xbox 360.

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Dudewitbow - 2013-03-19

N is a growing trend for routers that has increased range and max speed. The advantage g has that about all wireless dongles or devices support g, and many support n but not all. N also recives less interference with other wireless devices such as wireless phones and will likely not recieve strage speeds or interference patterns... at the cost that is.

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Imitazion - 2013-04-02

I didn't want to start a thread, so here goes.

I am kind of on my way to buy a new computer. I had help building it, and I think I am done.

here it is(in Danish):
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Mobo: MSI Z77 Mpower
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570 3.4GHz
RAM: 2x4 DDR3 1600mhz vengeance
SSD: Crucial 256GB
GPU: MSI HD7870 2GB DDR5
Cooler: Cooler Master 212 Evo
Case: Antec Performance P280 midi
PSU: Corsair TX650 V2.

The total price is 1366 american dollars, free shipping.

is there anything, at all, I can get for the same price/a bit more, with a better bang4buck?
I think the GPU could be switched with something a bit better(I hear 7870 is much worse than 7970).

thanks in advance!

edit: I have 5TB of slave/external storage, if you're wondering about space.

EDIT2:
speculation build:

Spoiler

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - emailbox - 2013-04-03

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these;
- Your mobo was apparently made for overclocking but your processor isn't the K version (3570k); you can either downgrade the mobo to a simpler one, or should upgrade your CPU to the 3570k.
- I don't know if you really need an SSD that massive; the price range jacks up massively once you pass the 120GB mark (like $100 more for ~50GB or so), so I'd either downgrade it (you've got tons of external space) or swap it out for a 7.2k+ RPM HDD (1 TB is like ~$70 tops)
-I feel like you could cut down on a lot of your costs, as $1400 for an i5 build seems kind of expensive. Could you list the USD prices on each part? (rough estimate)

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Imitazion - 2013-04-03

emailbox Wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these;
- Your mobo was apparently made for overclocking but your processor isn't the K version (3570k); you can either downgrade the mobo to a simpler one, or should upgrade your CPU to the 3570k.
- I don't know if you really need an SSD that massive; the price range jacks up massively once you pass the 120GB mark (like $100 more for ~50GB or so), so I'd either downgrade it (you've got tons of external space) or swap it out for a 7.2k+ RPM HDD (1 TB is like ~$70 tops)
-I feel like you could cut down on a lot of your costs, as $1400 for an i5 build seems kind of expensive. Could you list the USD prices on each part? (rough estimate)

Thanks for the response.
I had no idea about the connection between the mobo and the CPU.
As for the SSD - you might be right. I'll look into my actual C drive usage, I just like the idea of having room enough.

Do you know of any equal or better parts, that could save me money?
Did you see the i7 build?

Here are prices for both:

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - emailbox - 2013-04-03

From what I can see everything from wherever you're buying it from is slightly more expensive than the prices I'm used to seeing. I'm assuming you don't live in the states, but here's a build from newegg.com, in USD running off the Radeon 7870 and i5

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19565291

About $500 cheaper than your current list. I accidentally put in the 3570k i5 in there, should really be a 3570, but it's not a massive deal (like $15 more). If you don't include the sales, closer to $350-400 cheaper, but still a large saving. I don't know how much the International fees and such will alter this though... imports may be jacking up the price. It's definitely pulling up the cost of the CPU, RAM, and PSU (by about $20-$30 each)

Several things:

-Your case seems really expensive; great cases can be bought for as low as $60, but if you're going for looks then this is in the air and it's personal preference.

-Mobo is also pretty overpriced, if you're not planning to do much OCing then there's no point to getting an OC-centered mobo.

-Used a smaller SSD, as I'm assuming you're going to be using it for the OS and some other programs that need the quick response time. I was wrong about the prices though, 256 is only about $100 or so more than the 120, so it's up to you if you think you need the extra space. To note though, Newegg had a sale on them and one was super cheap but it's sold out Sad

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164

-RAM cost being higher than usual I'm going to probably blame on international shipping fees and stuff being built into the price.

-PSU also seems somewhat expensive (like $20-ish), but like the RAM, it may be due to the international fees. My PSU I got on sale for about $120 and it's a TX750M from Corsair.

Also, unless you're really really into Intel, the AMD FX-8350 is probably going to give you better performance at around the same price as an i5. I switched my own build to take advantage of this, but it's up to you. Note you'll have to get a different mobo if you go AMD.

Personal build: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=21880732
Kinda on the fence for what GPU to get.

EDIT: Also, I wouldn't recommend going i7 unless you're into major rendering and artsy stuff like that (ie, super CPU heavy programs). The i5 is more than enough for most high-end gaming, since gaming tends to weigh heavier on your GPU than your CPU.

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Imitazion - 2013-04-03

emailbox Wrote:From what I can see everything from wherever you're buying it from is slightly more expensive than the prices I'm used to seeing. I'm assuming you don't live in the states, but here's a build from newegg.com, in USD running off the Radeon 7870 and i5

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19565291

About $500 cheaper than your current list. I accidentally put in the 3570k i5 in there, should really be a 3570, but it's not a massive deal (like $15 more). If you don't include the sales, closer to $350-400 cheaper, but still a large saving. I don't know how much the International fees and such will alter this though... imports may be jacking up the price. It's definitely pulling up the cost of the CPU, RAM, and PSU (by about $20-$30 each)

Several things:

-Your case seems really expensive; great cases can be bought for as low as $60, but if you're going for looks then this is in the air and it's personal preference.

-Mobo is also pretty overpriced, if you're not planning to do much OCing then there's no point to getting an OC-centered mobo.

-Used a smaller SSD, as I'm assuming you're going to be using it for the OS and some other programs that need the quick response time. I was wrong about the prices though, 256 is only about $100 or so more than the 120, so it's up to you if you think you need the extra space. To note though, Newegg had a sale on them and one was super cheap but it's sold out http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164

-RAM cost being higher than usual I'm going to probably blame on international shipping fees and stuff being built into the price.

-PSU also seems somewhat expensive (like $20-ish), but like the RAM, it may be due to the international fees. My PSU I got on sale for about $120 and it's a TX750M from Corsair.

Also, unless you're really really into Intel, the AMD FX-8350 is probably going to give you better performance at around the same price as an i5. I switched my own build to take advantage of this, but it's up to you. Note you'll have to get a different mobo if you go AMD.

Personal build: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=21880732
Kinda on the fence for what GPU to get.

EDIT: Also, I wouldn't recommend going i7 unless you're into major rendering and artsy stuff like that (ie, super CPU heavy programs). The i5 is more than enough for most high-end gaming, since gaming tends to weigh heavier on your GPU than your CPU.

Hardware in Denmark is more pricey than it is in America, and shipping will make it equally expensive.
I want something that will make sure that I can run games and programs that will be released in the future.

I don't know about the case. I've thought about Antec 900 II, because of airflow and looks, but I am uncertain. this build is still only in the speculation phase, I still have a few months before I actually buy it.

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Dudewitbow - 2013-04-03

to clarify things on the build in question now:

above already mentioned processor to motherboard. overclocking intel chipos will be denoted with a k at the end of their name.

as for build 2, the i7-3820 is a sandy bridge-e processor(LGA 2011). it requires a X79 motherboard and will not work with a Z77 motherboard(for LGA 1155)

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - FrozNlite - 2013-05-26

Okay so you'll probably all f3/f6 me off this island, but I love my Macbooks, so this is a question related to them, though kind of not.

My four year old Macbook's backlight is essentially dead, rendering the perfectly fine computer useless without dropping $310 for the repair, which I refuse to do as I was planning on buying a Macbook Pro this summer anyways. Seeing as that time would be now, I'm hesitating on actually making the purchase as the latest Macbooks should be out within the next month, given an expected announcement at Apple's WWDC starting June 10.

Here's the caveat: all rumors thus far point to the only major upgrade for the machines being the implementation of Intel's new Haswell processors - which, according to their basic specs as detailed here, seem to be....potentially worthwhile?

For comparison, these are the general specs of the current Macbook I'd consider buying:

2.9GHz Dual-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM 2x4GB
750GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm

So ultimately: I need a new computer ASAP, but could have access to new Haswell-processor Macbooks in as little as two weeks. Is it worth holding off until the new ones ship (using external monitors till then), or is the upgrade not significant enough to merit waiting?

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Dusk - 2013-05-26

FrozNlite Wrote:Okay so you'll probably all f3/f6 me off this island, but I love my Macbooks, so this is a question related to them, though kind of not.
...

What do you use your laptop for?

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - FrozNlite - 2013-05-26

Dusk Wrote:What do you use your laptop for?

Just basic computing, so no gaming. I may do lighter photo/video editing, but nothing that would demand a Retina display (or intensive specs).

All that being said, I'm looking to get a computer that lasts 4-5 years, so if Haswell processors are the next big micro architecture perhaps it's best to get them?

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Dusk - 2013-05-26

FrozNlite Wrote:Just basic computing, so no gaming. I may do lighter photo/video editing, but nothing that would demand a Retina display (or intensive specs).

All that being said, I'm looking to get a computer that lasts 4-5 years, so if Haswell processors are the next big micro architecture perhaps it's best to get them?

The microarchitectural changes typically don't matter as much as the process changes. If you're not doing anything particularly intensive, you're not going to see much value in waiting.

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Zelkova - 2013-05-26

Dusk Wrote:The microarchitectural changes typically don't matter as much as the process changes. If you're not doing anything particularly intensive, you're not going to see much value in waiting.

That is unless Apple allows you to buy older models for cheaper...

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Yoorah - 2013-05-26

Dusk Wrote:The microarchitectural changes typically don't matter as much as the process changes. If you're not doing anything particularly intensive, you're not going to see much value in waiting.

Wrong! You have to take a closer look on a case by case basis. Process changes often don't mean that much in practice. Look at Sandy Bridge compared to Ivy Bridge. The highlight of Ivy was supposed to be the new process, but as it turns out, it was actually the microarchitecture changes (in this case in the iGPU) that mattered!

Haswell is worth the wait if you want to get a laptop due to the fact that Intel has greatly refined the design as far as power consumption goes, which is rather important for a laptop. In addition to that, the iGPU gets a huge performance increase with Haswell as well, so much so that dedicated GPUs have become obsolete unless you are aiming for something high end (which is silly in a laptop anyway).

Need help picking computer parts or a new computer? Click here. - Declaimed - 2013-06-14

The current build that I've arranged for purchase:

CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3
GIGABYTE Z87X-UD3H
Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150
CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Water Cooler
Corsair Neutron Series GTX CSSD-N240GBGTXB-BK 2.5" 240GB SATA III
Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound

Graphics card undecided. Any suggestions? Will likely invest in four additional premium 120mm fans for a push-pull RAD configuration. That RAM is $130; Trying to find something cheaper if I can without having to sacrifice timings.

Current total: $1,058. I would like to remain below $1,400.

I plan to overclock in the future, but not immediately. I already own the case, OS, etc etc.