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Question about Star foce in GMS - areyouabc - 2014-12-04

SaptaZapta Wrote:That wouldn't help.
The equipment trace has the "un-enhanced" stats calculated using the same formula. So if you currently have, say, 8 stars on your armor, the game assumes you have 5x2 + 3x3 = 19 allstat from enhancements. If you boom it, your equipment trace would have 19 allstat less than you have.

Source: http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1324064-bugged-weapon-spell-trace-and-blue-starred-android-heart%26nxid%3D6

I think that is what I want. Because I enhanced before star force, and those enhancement barely give any stats. So I just boom it and I can get fix stats, say 19all stats again, from star force.

Question about Star foce in GMS - SaptaZapta - 2014-12-04

areyouabc Wrote:I think that is what I want. Because I enhanced before star force, and those enhancement barely give any stats. So I just boom it and I can get fix stats, say 19all stats, from star force.

But you won't.
Let's say your item currently has 20 str from scrolling and enhancing.
When it booms, the equipment trace will only have 1 str.
Same for all other stats.
If you put that on a clean equip and enhance 8 times, you'll end up exactly where you started (just a few meso poorer).

Question about Star foce in GMS - areyouabc - 2014-12-04

SaptaZapta Wrote:But you won't.
Let's say your item currently has 20 str from scrolling and enhancing.
When it booms, the equipment trace will only have 1 str.
Same for all other stats.
If you put that on a clean equip and enhance 8 times, you'll end up exactly where you started (just a few meso poorer).

Wow, that sucks.

Question about Star foce in GMS - DeanNim - 2014-12-04

ultimax21 Wrote:Did that, and too lazy to do it again, played with one and only got to 4 stars and back to 0 again. Too much of a meso sink here, about 18mil per enhance I spent over 500m just to test it only not even keeping it lol.

Were the stat increments the same as AEEs pre-star force ? Meso costs aside, would the stats on a 12-starred 3 set Nova beat a 4 set Emp(poorly scrolled, too lazy to innocence them) ?

Question about Star foce in GMS - areyouabc - 2014-12-04

DeanNim Wrote:Were the stat increments the same as AEEs pre-star force ? Meso costs aside, would the stats on a 12-starred 3 set Nova beat a 4 set Emp(poorly scrolled, too lazy to innocence them) ?

According to what I understand so far, post-star force's enhancement give fixed all stats(depend on equipment level).

But I think, for Superior equipment, stats given still remain same as pre-star force.

Question about Star foce in GMS - Thorr - 2014-12-04

areyouabc Wrote:But I think, for Superior equipment, stats given still remain same as pre-star force.

It doesn't appear so. I have a bunch of Heliseum capes that are supposed to be Superior. However, 1 Star Force gives them only +2 all stat (for 5M mesos with 50/50 chance). It's total crap. So much for being Superior.

Question about Star foce in GMS - xlxlxlxl - 2014-12-04

Thorr Wrote:It doesn't appear so. I have a bunch of Heliseum capes that are supposed to be Superior. However, 1 Star Force gives them only +2 all stat (for 5M mesos with 50/50 chance). It's total crap. So much for being Superior.

Elite heliseum is supposed to be 2 all stat at first star. It increases from there, though.
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=60736&page=2&p=1046854&viewfull=1#post1046854

Question about Star foce in GMS - Justin - 2014-12-04

Thorr Wrote:It doesn't appear so. I have a bunch of Heliseum capes that are supposed to be Superior. However, 1 Star Force gives them only +2 all stat (for 5M mesos with 50/50 chance). It's total crap. So much for being Superior.

Helisium equips completely cap out at 3 stars, too. They're not worth the cost at all.

Question about Star foce in GMS - FenixR - 2014-12-04

I bet you can still use regular enhancing scrolls to go to 15 stars on those.

Edit: Also remember that Helisium, Nova and Tyrant have different stat gains per star, it was like that even before this patch.

Question about Star foce in GMS - Thorr - 2014-12-04

xlxlxlxl Wrote:Elite heliseum is supposed to be 2 all stat at first star. It increases from there, though.
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=60736&page=2&p=1046854&viewfull=1#post1046854

I spent an hour trying to find that very post. Thanks!

Question about Star foce in GMS - DeanNim - 2014-12-04

So I guess a 3 set nova would completely trash my empress set lmao. time to farm for them now while I wait for star force in maplesea. Thanks for the information overload guys.

Question about Star foce in GMS - xJunkun - 2014-12-04

DeanNim Wrote:So I guess a 3 set nova would completely trash my empress set lmao. time to farm for them now while I wait for star force in maplesea. Thanks for the information overload guys.

If it helps my 21% dex nova 6 stars wrecks a 5 star tyrant with 9% dex idk about a 15% one cause there's hardly any archers in broa >.>

Question about Star foce in GMS - ChiefHermit - 2014-12-04

"The messaging that displays for items that cannot be enhanced with Star Force has been corrected and no longer references Miraculous Enchantment Scrolls."

too bad..
[Image: PEMC8e1.png]

a blue starred, primed +14 sw overall

Question about Star foce in GMS - ultimax21 - 2014-12-05

Just checked my own that had a blue star, it was cleared up. ~~This bug seems to be available only on sweetwater equipement and nothing to do with primed scrolls. Everything I primed never encountered this issue.~~

It seems that maybe I need more input from others, as a sweetwater katana was fixed, unless it was somehow special, his weapon was prime scrolled. I can't tell if Nexon made a special selection to only certain items only.

Question about Star foce in GMS - Justin - 2014-12-05

ultimax21 Wrote:Just checked my own that had a blue star, it was cleared up. This bug seems to be available only on sweetwater equipement and nothing to do with primed scrolls. Everything I primed never encountered this issue.

I have a friend with a prime scrolled cRA hat who still has a blue star on his and can't enhance it. The problem is still clearly there.

Question about Star foce in GMS - ultimax21 - 2014-12-05

Justin Wrote:I have a friend with a prime scrolled cRA hat who still has a blue star on his and can't enhance it. The problem is still clearly there.

Just edited myself, but it can't the cause of prime scrolls since i just explained about the sweetwater katana being primed and was fixed. He enhanced it to 13 stars already from the 10 blue star issue.

Question about Star foce in GMS - Justin - 2014-12-05

Oh I'm not saying the issue is prime scrolls so much as just the issue of the blue stars is still there at ALL. If they actually recoded this pomegranate correctly MEEs should not even be referenced in the UI or their existence checked in the first damn place.

Question about Star foce in GMS - areyouabc - 2014-12-05

SaptaZapta Wrote:But you won't.
Let's say your item currently has 20 str from scrolling and enhancing.
When it booms, the equipment trace will only have 1 str.
Same for all other stats.
If you put that on a clean equip and enhance 8 times, you'll end up exactly where you started (just a few meso poorer).

What if my meister berserker ring base stats are all 5 and already enhanced 8 times before star force.

Then after star force I enhanced until it boomed. Then when I equipment trace my ring back, my ring will have negative -14 all stats, 0 all stats or, 5 all stats?

Rolleyes

Question about Star foce in GMS - SaptaZapta - 2014-12-05

areyouabc Wrote:What if my meister berserker ring base stats are all 5 and already enhanced 8 times before star force.

Then after star force I enhanced until it boomed. Then when I equipment trace my ring back, my ring will have negative -14 all stats, 0 all stats or, 5 all stats?

I don't know. I assume it can't go below the base stats for that item. Want to experiment and tell us?

Question about Star foce in GMS - areyouabc - 2014-12-05

SaptaZapta Wrote:I don't know. I assume it can't go below the base stats for that item. Want to experiment and tell us?

The question is whether if (A)EES stats given still work like pre-star force? I don't have any (A)EES to test. Very poor ATM.