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God's /not/ dead - KhainiWest - 2014-03-27
xparasite9 Wrote:And so does kami-sama, and so does Confucius, and so does Muhammad, and so on.
Marriage is a religious institution that has also been treated as a legal one because, up until modern times, religion was law.
If we've truly outgrown such silly superstitions, then why do we need to adhere to silly institutions of marriage?
See above images.
xparasite9 Wrote:takes two to tango. plus I've never even witnessed any stigma attached to birth control. And if you've seen any prime-time television recently I think you'd find that there's not much stigma on fornication either. Some people just don't want to cover the cost of it. If I was an employer I know I wouldn't want to pay for it, just like I wouldn't want to pay for my employee's Dr. Scholls shoe inserts or
oh wait I've got a perfect anecdote here. Okay so your employee just loves walking into heated kilns. Now, this has absolutely nothing to do with his job, and he just does it as a sort of hobby. Just recently a law has been passed that requires that you to cover part of the cost of his fire proximity suit and its maintenance so he doesn't get burned for engaging in entirely avoidable risky behavior.
I digress that is the other half of the coin, however this did happen, not sure if the website skewed either way but that was the bottom line.
icephoenix21 Wrote:So are you over Winnie yet?
You don't even know why I was mad about that do you? What's next "OH HOWS YOUR DEAD CAT". lmao
God's /not/ dead - xparasite9 - 2014-03-27
KhainiWest Wrote:See above images.
I wasn't finished editing my post. Look again.
God's /not/ dead - KhainiWest - 2014-03-27
xparasite9 Wrote:I wasn't finished editing my post. Look again.
Well you answered one picture which was like <10% margin which was my point. In terms of your marriage point, you're just arguing semantics at that point.
God's /not/ dead - icephoenix21 - 2014-03-27
KhainiWest Wrote:You don't even know why I was mad about that do you? What's next "OH HOWS YOUR DEAD CAT". lmao
Since you brought up irrelevant topics, I thought I'd join in
God's /not/ dead - KhainiWest - 2014-03-27
icephoenix21 Wrote:Since you brought up irrelevant topics, I thought I'd join in
Your family is a religious zealot (your words), which is relevant to the topic at hand since you feel as though christian's are treated as if are all religious zealots.
...Really kind of disappointing I have to point out even THAT to you.
God's /not/ dead - icephoenix21 - 2014-03-27
KhainiWest Wrote:Your family is a religious zealot (your words), which is relevant to the topic at hand since you feel as though christian's are treated as if are all religious zealots.
...Really kind of disappointing I have to point out even THAT to you.
KhainiWest Wrote:I'd just go skype call your parents, they'll feed your fallacy if you need that reinforcement.
Irrelevant because I don't believe what my parents do.
...Really kinda disappointing I have to point out even THAT to you.
God's /not/ dead - KhainiWest - 2014-03-27
icephoenix21 Wrote:Irrelevant because I don't believe what my parents do.
...Really kinda disappointing I have to point out even THAT to you.
Oh my god. Learn to follow heidi
icephoenix21 Wrote:I'm not defending the article by any means, but to say that Christians aren't being discriminated against is just ignorance.
You don't want to debate it because you're wrong. I mean for gods sake you didn't even get the wording right. Thus, you wanting positive support, would most likely want to talk to a religious zealot to tell you the same thing. To reinforce this fallacy. Your parents fit this category thus would most likely agree with you.
>Heidi looking for someone to agree with her
>Should speak with a zealot
>Parents=zealot
Ding ding we got a f`ucking winner.
God's /not/ dead - xparasite9 - 2014-03-27
KhainiWest Wrote:In terms of your marriage point, you're just arguing semantics at that point.
xparasite9 Wrote:KhainiWest Wrote:Who the f`uck else opposes it and for what reason?All of Asia, which isn't exactly filled with christians.
Anyway I'd like to question another thing you brought up
KhainiWest Wrote:Stating Christianity is literally paralyzing equal rights is not discrimination, it's a fact.Pardon my inability to keep track of this situation. I've never been in any relationship whatsoever so I wouldn't know. Just exactly which rights are being denied? Rights, not privileges.
Is it the visitation rights? The ones that have been strengthened by Obama's mandate that federally-funded hospitals allow it or get their funding dropped?
Or is it the estate tax thing? You know, the one where to even be affected by an estate tax to begin with you'd have to be a multimillionaire?
God's /not/ dead - KhainiWest - 2014-03-27
xparasite9 Wrote:.
There's a reason I posted a picture of the United states with a cross comparison with the bible belt. Plus china is a pretty shitty example since, ya know, corrupt and such.
The marriage point I was referring to was your question regarding "why have it if we remove religion all together anyway", well two people are going to want to form a contract, the only difference is, one is celebrated and is sexually exclusive. People are still going to want to form legal bindings with each other for financial benefits. So what would you like to rename marriage, cus that's essentially all you'd be doing. I feel like it still be celebrated/appreciated either way.
You can put all religions down if you want, but it's predominately christian representatives (again shown) who are halting those two things based on their belief system. Now if it was spread out, then I would/could use the general term "religion" but this is clearly a specific concentration.
God's /not/ dead - icephoenix21 - 2014-03-27
KhainiWest Wrote:Oh my god. Learn to follow heidi
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You don't want to debate it because you're wrong. I mean for gods sake you didn't even get the wording right. Thus, you wanting positive support, would most likely want to talk to a religious zealot to tell you the same thing. To reinforce this fallacy. Your parents fit this category thus would most likely agree with you.
>Heidi looking for someone to agree with her
>Should speak with a zealot
>Parents=zealot
Ding ding we got a f`ucking winner.
I don't want to debate cuz you're an egotistical pimento that has to rely on debating on the internet to get your kicks.
I wasn't even originally talking to you.
God's /not/ dead - xparasite9 - 2014-03-27
KhainiWest Wrote:You can put all religions down if you want, but it's predominately christian representatives (again shown) who are halting those two things based on their belief system. Now if it was spread out, then I would/could use the general term "religion" but this is clearly a specific concentration.
And how many of these "Christian" representatives even attend church services on a regular basis? Nah, most politicians ascribe to the religion of Capitalism. They just publicly profess christianity to look like nice well-meaning people.
KhainiWest Wrote:Plus china is a pretty shitty example since, ya know, corrupt and such.So China = all of Asia. Good to know.
Would you like to send the bad news notice to Japan, Korea, Russia, Mongolia, India, Laos, Taiwan, Thailand, etc? Or should I do it?
God's /not/ dead - Niernen - 2014-03-27
This may or may not be shifting from Shenanigans to Angry Dome. Then again I can't tell people's tone online most of the time.
God's /not/ dead - KhainiWest - 2014-03-27
icephoenix21 Wrote:I don't want to debate cuz you're an egotistical pimento that has to rely on debating on the internet to get your kicks.
I wasn't even originally talking to you.
Yeah yeah, tell me something I don't know, I'd love to point out that your boyfriend has been literally called the same thing, and in a sense it's like you're dating a less intelligent me, but I feel that's just unnecessarily hilarious.
xparasite9 Wrote:And how many of these "Christian" representatives even attend church services on a regular basis? Nah, most politicians ascribe to the religion of Capitalism. They just publicly profess christianity to look like nice well-meaning people.
Okay, so whats the "capitalism" behind gay marriage? As a person that deals with taxes, all I can tell you is profit. I'll even throw a softball regarding contraceptives -tosses-.
xparasite9 Wrote:So China = all of Asia. Good to know.
Would you like to send the bad news notice to Japan, Korea, Russia, Mongolia, India, Laos, Taiwan, Thailand, etc? Or should I do it?
MY BAD. Kind of doesn't change my point though. Two images regarding the united states and a source showing the concentration of a specific religious group. So you want to name other places where religion is against gay marriage? Sure "religion" is the problem on a international scale. In the united states it's more of a christian issue since majority of the arguments, are by which type of politician? The bible belt kind.
..So do you want to carry onto this vicious circle or do you want to concede your points already?
God's /not/ dead - DavyJonesx - 2014-03-27
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God's /not/ dead - xparasite9 - 2014-03-27
KhainiWest Wrote:So you want to name other places where religion is against gay marriage? Sure "religion" is the problem on a international scale.
idunno. what do you think? are there any places where it wouldn't be the case that religion would be against religious ceremonies being performed in a way that's contradictory to the very definition of the ceremony?
KhainiWest Wrote:Okay, so whats the "capitalism" behind gay marriage? As a person that deals with taxes, all I can tell you is profit. I'll even throw a softball regarding contraceptives -tosses-.Political capitalism. You know, personal gain. Not "for the good of everyone". PACs and lobbyists and all kinds of little money-sweets.
God's /not/ dead - KhainiWest - 2014-03-27
DavyJonesx Wrote:.
Yes let's question the persons intelligence who is providing actual data to the conversation while someone echo's stuff that fox news rants about "WAR ON CHRISTMAS".
God's /not/ dead - DavyJonesx - 2014-03-27
KhainiWest Wrote:Yes let's question the persons intelligence who is providing actual data to the conversation while someone echo's stuff that fox news rants about "WAR ON CHRISTMAS".
You must be fun at parties.
God's /not/ dead - KhainiWest - 2014-03-27
xparasite9 Wrote:idunno. what do you think? are there any places where it wouldn't be the case that religion would be against religious ceremonies being performed in a way that's contradictory to the very definition of the ceremony?
Is your justification of this adamant stance based on the fact that their 'interpretation' of a ceremony as common as marriage gives them the right to deny anyone elses method of ceremony?
Someone better call tell china to call Italy on their noodle thieving bull sh`it!
xparasite9 Wrote:Political capitalism. You know, personal gain. Not "for the good of everyone". PACs and lobbyists and all kinds of little money-sweets.
Not true either. Gay marriage as positives across the board save for religious establishments, which are predominately christian. Guinness even has a ban currently on some town, forgot what it was, because they didn't support it. This is genuine resentment based on personal beliefs.
DavyJonesx Wrote:You must be fun at parties.
I'd say I'm surprised you posted something completely worthless but judging by your maplestory posts, that seems to be your trademark. You should probably change your profile pic to Riley since Dewey maybe misrepresenting you.
God's /not/ dead - xparasite9 - 2014-03-27
KhainiWest Wrote:Is your justification of this adamant stance based on the fact that their 'interpretation' of a ceremony as common as marriage gives them the right to deny anyone elses method of ceremony?
Someone better call tell china to call Italy on their noodle thieving bull sh`it!
yeah sure, why not?
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/11/europe-trade-talks-cheese-back-parmesan-feta
God's /not/ dead - KhainiWest - 2014-03-27
xparasite9 Wrote:yeah sure, why not?
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/11/europe-trade-talks-cheese-back-parmesan-feta
:f6:
I got nothing