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Unleashed Empress - icephoenix21 - 2013-07-15
Justin Wrote:-snip-
honestly, if you're going to crop a video of you guys hacking a boss, you could at least FULLY crop the fly hacker on the top of the screen.
Bring on the infraction.
Happens at 13 seconds, by the way.
Takebacker Wrote:"We cropped a video in Scania and we haven't been banned. You guys should be fine."
:|
Pink Bean Wrote:could you possibly tell us how this came about?
30 seconds isn't enough to see how you dealt with her
it's like you intentionally cropped it hahahahah
Way to be assuming pimentos, guys.
First off, the person who posted the video is not the person who took the video, so don't blame him for that.
Secondly, that "hacker" you see is a demonslayer. I can't say what exactly happened at 13 seconds, but I do know that you can't see others skills sometimes post-unleashed. He could have also been coming out of the scrubby garden and it just lagged him like that (kinda like how you'll see androids on the side of the maps when people enter a map). Not to mention that player is in Spain, so lag could easily be a factor.
Thirdly, those in the video are: Unific of Chrono, BossManager of Chrono, GothicSlayer of Chrono, SurplusLogic of Tempted, SoonLove of the Saga Alliance. I personally asked the coordinator of the run why he cropped the video when he had posted it in our guild group a few days ago. This was his response:
![[Image: 3DKNB.JPG]](http://puu.sh/3DKNB.JPG)
Which, if you know anything about rivaling guilds in Scania, you'd know that Saga Alliance and Chrono guild, are for the most part, rivals. He didn't want some young kid named Fab to be starting drama between the two guilds.
Unleashed Empress - Takebacker - 2013-07-15
icephoenix21 Wrote:Way to be assuming pimentos, guys.
Not assuming anything. Posting a cropped video means jack s'hit to those of us who want to kill empress. What was the timer at? How many times did she heal? Is there some way of making her not heal at all? None of those questions are answered with the video he posted, and all of them are relevant to make a kill.
icephoenix21 Wrote:First off, the person who posted the video is not the person who took the video, so don't blame him for that.
I wasn't. He said "we", so if it wasn't a legit run it doesn't matter who posted it. Way to be assuming pimentos, guy.
icephoenix21 Wrote:Thirdly, those in the video are: Unific of Chrono, BossManager of Chrono, GothicSlayer of Chrono, SurplusLogic of Tempted, SoonLove of the Saga Alliance. I personally asked the coordinator of the run why he cropped the video when he had posted it in our guild group a few days ago. This was his response:
Which, if you know anything about rivaling guilds in Scania, you'd know that Saga Alliance and Chrono guild, are for the most part, rivals. He didn't want some young kid named Fab to be starting drama between the two guilds.
Why is that our problem?
Unleashed Empress - Mazz - 2013-07-15
Justin Wrote:Yeah, no, watch closely. The slayer has the DR Bypass on from meta. You can SEE the wings from the buff for a second when he's about to land, and instantly disappears entirely. Also, when your character jumps it relayers you to be on top of everyone else. He didn't appear on top of anyone because he never even hit the ground
Where did da slayer go? I wonderrrrr
Chomp isn't a jump, it's a skill, so it doesn't put you on top of everyone else, especially not the guy recording..
Unleashed Empress - Marksman Bryan - 2013-07-15
Why would anyone fly hack at a boss anyway...?
Anyways just goes to show there should be a way to see other players' skills at bosses. On top of the plethora of other reasons.
Unleashed Empress - icephoenix21 - 2013-07-15
Takebacker Wrote:Not assuming nothing. Posting a cropped video means jack s'hit to those of us who want to kill empress. What was the timer at? How many times did she heal? Is there some way of making her not heal at all? None of those questions are answered with the video he posted, and all of them are relevant to make a kill.
We shouldn't be obligated to answer your questions of "What was the timer at? How many times did she heal? Is there some way of making her not heal at all?" We're just saying it's possible to kill. Not our fault if you need a whole video that shows babysteps on how to kill empress.
Takebacker Wrote:I wasn't. He said "we", so if it wasn't a legit run it doesn't matter who posted it. Way to be assuming pimentos, guy.Except it was a legit run, and you guys are set that since the video is cropped that it's an illegit run.
Takebacker Wrote:Why is that our problem?Just explaining why it's cropped, since that seems to be why your panties are in a bunch.
Unleashed Empress - Justin - 2013-07-15
Okay, then since the cat's out of the bag on WHO specifically went anyway (which was completely irrelevant to begin with), why not post an uncropped video? Honestly, with the way maple is now you should have expected a completely cropped video to cause disbelief and skepticism.
Unleashed Empress - CrazyForDex - 2013-07-15
icephoenix21 Wrote:We shouldn't be obligated to answer your questions of "What was the timer at? How many times did she heal? Is there some way of making her not heal at all?" We're just saying it's possible to kill. Not our fault if you need a whole video that shows babysteps on how to kill empress.
But if you are going to post a video claiming something to be true, some information would be nice.
With all the bs going around nowadays, just saying, "Trust me mah dudes, they totally be legit and btw Empress is killable" doesn't really fly.
Unleashed Empress - Mazz - 2013-07-15
[MENTION=9704]icephoenix21[/MENTION]; would've probably been easier to leave it uncropped and put a black bar covering everything below the ground (so all IGN/guild names are hidden) if that was the issue (which I think it was?), but congrats on the kill :p
Unleashed Empress - icephoenix21 - 2013-07-15
CrazyForDex Wrote:But if you are going to post a video claiming something to be true, some information would be nice.
With all the bs going around nowadays, just saying, "Trust me mah dudes, they totally be legit and btw Empress is killable" doesn't really fly.
Maybe to you. But I know the general crowd to believe if something is killable or not. Each world has it's guilds and bossers that are reputable.
Justin Wrote:Okay, then since the cat's out of the bag on WHO specifically went anyway (which was completely irrelevant to begin with), why not post an uncropped video? Honestly, with the way maple is now you should have expected a completely cropped video to cause disbelief and skepticism.
As I stated earlier, the video was only cropped to avoid some petty drama. Seeing and I'm not the one who took the video, I can't do anything in regards to that aside from mentioning something to the paladin.
[MENTION=2375]Mazz[/MENTION]; yeah, I think you're probably right. Once again, that's beyond my control :I I just don't appreciate people saying my guildmates and/or friends are doing something illegitimate just because they are misinformed about a skill.
Unleashed Empress - user - 2013-07-15
What's with all the contention? :f6:
lulzace Wrote:According to Undetect in YMCK Empress heals now.
If this is correct even if you get enough people to bind you may get banned because afaik the heal was taken away in kms so they(nx) probably don't want us to kill it. I know 3 people, him included, that have 1m+ range on Xenon with varying levels of 100%+ boss and after Undetect told us this they first wanted to try to kill it, but are reconsidering b/c of the whole Magnus thing.
What do you guys think?
From my interpretation of what the threadstarter is asking, he wants to know if it is safe to kill Empress and if there is no penalty for doing so (i.e. an auto-ban). I simply posted a video of my guild and some friends killing her to show that, yes, it is completely safe to legitly kill Empress with your friends, and there should be nothing to worry about.
Sorry for posting a cropped video? I'm not obligated to show you each little bit of the mechanics of our run (which should be fairly evident if you have killed her repeatedly before the Unleashed patch, because it's the same idea of providing a sufficient amount of burst damage toward the end, coupled with binding skills).
If some of you guys really, really want a full video, I will ask the original video uploader to upload a full, unedited video. If the original video was scrapped, we will be more than happy to re-record our runs, over and over again until you guys are satisfied.
Unleashed Empress - Takebacker - 2013-07-15
icephoenix21 Wrote:We shouldn't be obligated to answer your questions of "What was the timer at? How many times did she heal? Is there some way of making her not heal at all?" We're just saying it's possible to kill. Not our fault if you need a whole video that shows babysteps on how to kill empress.
You're obligated to clear doubt. A cropped video will always create that.
icephoenix21 Wrote:Except it was a legit run, and you guys are set that since the video is cropped that it's an illegit run.
I'm set that since the video is cropped, it does nothing but make more questions. Is that the point of threads?
I don't care about illegitimacy anymore because power creep makes it that way. Your run is illegit in many ways to some people, as are runs i go on, but that's not my call.
icephoenix21 Wrote:Just explaining why it's cropped, since that seems to be why your panties are in a bunch.
Whose? I'm not the one who would crop a video just to avoid a s'hit show from some "kid", lol.
Unleashed Empress - Pink Bean - 2013-07-15
Takebacker Wrote:Not assuming anything. Posting a cropped video means jack s'hit to those of us who want to kill empress. What was the timer at? How many times did she heal? Is there some way of making her not heal at all? None of those questions are answered with the video he posted, and all of them are relevant to make a kill.
this. unless he tells us what happened this helps no one who wants to down her.
on every single run i've seen or heard of she heals as if it was pre-unleashed (that threshold)
Unleashed Empress - icephoenix21 - 2013-07-15
![[Image: I%27m_surrounded_by_idiots.gif]](http://images.wikia.com/lionking/images/2/27/I%27m_surrounded_by_idiots.gif)
It's a bit beyond my control that the video was cropped, but okay.
Unleashed Empress - Proxied - 2013-07-15
icephoenix21 Wrote:As I stated earlier, the video was only cropped to avoid some petty drama.
Welp, looks like that didn't work out as planned
Unleashed Empress - Mazz - 2013-07-15
Unrelated to the video but it bothers me that a lot of you seem to feel entitled to know the exact mechanics of the boss after Unleashed... remember before she had ever been killed legitimately, how every group was super sekrit about their tactics and didn't want to share any information? It's the same thing. The more people that learn how to kill her, the more competition there is on prices and stuff. If you want to find out how it works, try it yourself. Alternatively wait until she's fixed properly and go from there. ._.
Unleashed Empress - Pink Bean - 2013-07-15
icephoenix21 Wrote:Way to be assuming pimentos, guys.
way to not read, i withdrew my assumption.
doesn't even look like i even said anything accusing, but OKAY! because it so happens it was cropped intentionally.
this thread exploded into derp.
Unleashed Empress - Justin - 2013-07-15
If the run truly was legitimate, then I sincerely apologize. I don't get why you would crop out EVERYTHING save for a small box though when you could have simply put a black bar near the bottom to hide your names.
Unleashed Empress - Antarctic - 2013-07-15
Well what I see is that you guys have defeated Empress legit, and I give you a big congratulations.
Rest? haters gonna hate you know, they cannot kill Empress and they need to talk crap about you, It's their feeling of being jealous and being far from the reality, It's just common sense or have a little of brain, who should use flying hack in Empress? only people with no brain thinks about it, simply useless, anyways you guys should upload the entire video by someone of the party should record next time the whole run, so you have in your hands to clean your image that some random jealous people is littering, you will close the mouth of many, and they will finally deal with it, congratulations for defeating her, it must take a lot of effort and money of course. Just let the haters die and ignore them, their jealousy will explode within themselves ^___^.