Things That Bothered Me (book spoilers)

I am very bothered that they changed Robb's decapation of Lord Karstark in the show. In the book it took Robb more than one swing to decapitate him, to which Catelyn noted that "he is still just a boy" or something along those lines. In the books, the ability to decapitate one's enemies in a single blow shows that they have come into their own and that they have developed. Some examples of this are that Theon cannot decapitate Ser Rodrick in one blow and it takes John more than one swing (iirc) to kill Lord Janos Slynt (I have a theory on this as well )

George Martin loves to include subtle themes and concepts into this story which portray the development of his characters and this was one of my favorite ones. Makes meh sads.

CrazyForDex Wrote:

 Things That Bothered Me (book spoilers)

I am very bothered that they changed Robb's decapation of Lord Karstark in the show. In the book it took Robb more than one swing to decapitate him, to which Catelyn noted that "he is still just a boy" or something along those lines. In the books, the ability to decapitate one's enemies in a single blow shows that they have come into their own and that they have developed. Some examples of this are that Theon cannot decapitate Ser Rodrick in one blow and it takes John more than one swing (iirc) to kill Lord Janos Slynt (I have a theory on this as well )

George Martin loves to include subtle themes and concepts into this story which portray the development of his characters and this was one of my favorite ones. Makes meh sads.

Razmos Wrote:

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While I do kinda agree, they did that with Theon already. It would have been quite stale if done a second time. Theon failing at decapitation is still probably quite fresh in peoples mind.

And I think showing Robb ignoring his loved ones and trusted advisors more than showed how "young" they are making him seem. I think they are building up to the Red Wedding quite nicely, by showing how Robb is unraveling as a leader and as a man. Like saying "Oh I know that Frey is an absolute madman, and I made a promise and broke it, but maybe he'll help me"

CrazyForDex Wrote:

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ALSO all this s'hit with Sansa. God dammit girl, you should have just left with Little Finger when you had the chance. Now someone is going to have to smuggle your ass out at some point.

Polantaris Wrote:

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My coworker and I watch every episode during work because we never have anything to do Sunday Night/Monday Morning, and we both just crack jokes left and right during Sansa sections because she just seems so annoying and worthless. He's read the books too, he said to me that, at least for him, most of the Sansa perspective chapters he was just like "Okay, crying and moaning upcoming." It's very clear that she's just a puppet, at least right now, and because of it I don't really care for her at all. I think that Arya and Sansa are polar opposites; all of Arya's sections are awesome and I care about her while I don't give two sh'its about Sansa at all.

CrazyForDex Wrote:

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Have you read the books? She is basically important because of her lineage and not much else. Yea, atm I do agree she is very annoying and naive. It's pretty funny in a sad sort of way

Kurtle Wrote:

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So according to wikis Gendry was never sold to Mellisandre in the books so is the show finally trying to trick us into not knowing what is next? HMmmmmm

Polantaris Wrote:

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My coworker has been saying they are changing a lot from the books in this season. For example, he was saying that Jamie lost his hand in a completely different way, and that John climbed the Wall differently and a few other things. Honestly I don't really mind that the book and show have diverging stories, because if I ever did decide to pick up the books, it wouldn't be as if I was reading the same exact thing as I had watched. It doesn't bother me at all if the story changes, as long as it stays as good as it has been.

Polantaris Wrote:

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My coworker has been saying they are changing a lot from the books in this season. For example, he was saying that Jamie lost his hand in a completely different way, and that John climbed the Wall differently and a few other things. Honestly I don't really mind that the book and show have diverging stories, because if I ever did decide to pick up the books, it wouldn't be as if I was reading the same exact thing as I had watched. It doesn't bother me at all if the story changes, as long as it stays as good as it has been.

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Jaime lost his hand in pretty much exactly the same way in the books. likely even word for word.
In regards to Gendry, I feel that they are fusing 2 different plots together. in the books, Melisandre had to find a bastard of Robert Baraethon. The one she found in the books is a different child, but it's around this point that Gendry's plot stops entirely when he joins the brotherhood. So while it happened slightly differently in the books, it's more or less the exact same thing, just using an existing character who's story is over, rather than confuse things further by introducing more characters. it makes sense to me

Also Sansa's story does get more interesting. definitely more interesting.

CrazyForDex Wrote:So in case some of you have not realized, there is finally another new episode tonight.

I was already so dam excited for episode 9 of this season and last week's hiatus has made me even more jittery.

Two hours left and counting!

Razmos Wrote:also: this is badass.